Skelton’s self-assessment

Posted by Darren Urban on October 10, 2012 – 3:19 pm

Nothing has changed for the Cardinals’ quarterbacks. Kevin Kolb is still going to be starting, and he took up his weekly residence under the tree for his press conference Wednesday. And John Skelton is still answering questions about his ankle.

Skelton has been practicing fully for a few workouts now, but his status remains a popular topic.

Skelton figured his ankle health, percentage-wise, is in the 90s. “It’ll probably be like this for a while, until I really give it time to rest and settle down,” Skelton said. “I guess if need be, yes, I could play Sunday.” Skelton, not surprisingly, said he was frustrated. “You’re a football player, so you want to be out there playing football,” Skelton said. “Not riding bikes and in the training room and such. (But) injuries are part of the game. It’s how you come back from them, how you deal with them.”

Kolb, meanwhile, said the Cardinals’ offense remains confident even with the poor showing in St. Louis. “The plays are there,” Kolb said. “For the most part, we’ve been making them all year. We have a lot of talented guys on both sides of the ball and we have faith in them.”

— Coach Ken Whisenhunt, not surprisingly, said LaRod Stephens-Howling’s kick return duties will probably change now that the Cards need him more at running back. “It doesn’t matter to me who’s back there doing it,” Whisenhunt said, knowing William Powell and Andre Roberts can do it. “Will it affect (Stephens-Howling)? Probably it will, but if we needed him to go back there and do it I wouldn’t have any problem with that.”

For what it’s worth, the Cards’ depth chart did officially change this week, with Powell listed as No. 1 kickoff return man and Roberts No. 2, with Stephens-Howling not listed.

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48 Responses to “Skelton’s self-assessment”

  1. By Scott H on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with Kolb that the talent is there. No doubt about that. And I agree that the plays are there. Or, rather, that they COULD be there if the O-line were giving the plays a chance to develop. I certainly don’t expect Kolb to hang his O-line out to dry, but…we all know THAT is where the main problem is. BTW, in addition to his toughness, I have to say that I admire Kolb for his composure and professionalism. Where a guy like Jay Cutler will eventually give in to the frustration and air somebody out ( be it yelling at an O-lineman OR getting up and walking away from his O-coordiantor on the sidelines ), you DO NOT see that from Kolb. And when you have been sacked 17 times in two seeks…you have a right to be frustrated.

  2. By robert on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darrin.i have asked at least 3 times during and since the Rams game why the Cards didn’t put tight ends/fullbacks/additonal lineman to help the tackles protect Kolb? Simple question…also why didn’t Wiz put in Bridges and whomever else he had to replace the tackles?

    What is your take on how the former jet reject Hunter and the rest of those Rams no name offensive lineman have such a good game of protecting Bradford?

    I have another simple question why is Russ Grim still employed? Other than the super bowel year with warner, our O line has been pathetic..doesn’t he have imput of who we draft? and it his responsibility to get those guys to block..

    How about some answers for a long time Card fan since 1988?

  3. By Darren Urban on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    Robert —

    RE: Questions

    1) As a long-time Card fan, you should know Bridges is out for the season injured.

    Players and coaches have said multiple times you can’t just put a bunch of extra people in to block every play. Too predictable. Obviously, they need to make adjustments.

    2) Bradford was 7-for-21 passing. I wouldn’t say he had a good game. Just because he wasn’t sacked a lot doesn’t mean the defense didn’t do well.

    3) Won’t bother answering this one. Obviously you have made up your mind on the subject.

  4. By erik on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    I know this will not be a popular opinion, but there is no way Skelton would’ve taken 17 sacks in two games. Everyone is trashing the O-line, and deservingly so, they are not playing well. But Kolb is holding onto the ball way too long. Skelton is more decisive. I think the 4-0 start was blinding most people to the fact that Kolb can’t play at a high level.

  5. By tentpeg107 on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Kevin Kolb = WCO

    Arizona Cardinals do not = WCO

    That’s a problem.

  6. By truths4all on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb did so-so against the Pats. He left lots of plays on the field.

    Kolb did Great against the Eagles, but then he is very familiar with their defense.

    Kob did so-so against the Dolphins. He left lots of plays on the field.

    Kolb did terrible against the Rams. He left more than a bunch of plays on the field. On too many of the plays where he had time to see during the pre-snap reads, he totally ignored the other side of the fiield and missed many open receivers. His accuracy was awful.

    In summary, Kolb’s performances does not equal a starting NFL QB’s performances. It is a journeyman’s track record. The question is whether Whiz is going to accept Kolb’s journeyman’s level of play as being better than what Skelton can produce.

    Make no mistake, every Cards oppoenent for the remainder of the season will work hard to beat the tackles and guards to get to Kolb. What the Rams proved and the Dolphins almost proved is the blueprint to knock-off and defeat the Cards.

  7. By Scott H on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    And, yes, this team has GOT to run the ball more. Period. It should have happened more against the Rams, with the score being 10-3 for most of the game. They needed to keep the offense on the field longer and DEFINITELY needed to back off the pass rush. And how do you do that? YOU RUN THE DAMN BALL. And in keeping with this theme, I have seen enough of the delayed hand-offs that this team is entirely too fond of. Enough. Dammit, let’s just line up and run the damn thing. Let the RB take the ball going forward and hit the hole with a head of steam.

    Honestly, I find myself excited to see Powell ( and Smith ) get a chance to show what he can do. We have nowhere to go but up, where the running game is concerned.

  8. By SeeingRed on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    Is the Big Red Rage Broadcast just on weeks of home games or is it both?
    Just curious.

  9. By Darren Urban on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    SeeingRed —

    RE: BRR

    The Rage is a weekly event.

  10. By Bay Area Bad Boy on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    All I want is a win. If we can get passed Buffalo, then we will be 5-1 going into Minnesota. The team has had some rest and time to recover from going hard the first 5 weeks. Now its time to get it in gear for the 2nd quarter of the season. One game at a time. Buffalo watch out. This is the week the offense gets it in gear. (Hopefully).

  11. By Texascard on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Scott h. Very well stated.

  12. By Eric on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb has always had the most talent….he came in last year with virtually no training camp…no real understanding of the offense and was injured early and often. Now, he’s realtively healthy, knows the offense and players and is getting his confidence back. He’s shown he has the talent, is tough and clutch too.

    It’s Kolb’s team now…like it should be.

  13. By Andy Kw on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    In your article Kolb Bounces Back, I thought the Buffalo Bills are 2-3 but you put 3-2.

  14. By Darren Urban on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    Andy Kw —

    RE: Record

    You are right. Thanks for the heads up.

  15. By Peter in Canada on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Scott H – I don’t think he is too upset about the 8 sacks against Miami because we won the game. The 9 sacks against the Rams are another matter. I agree he has shown professionalism and toughness. After watching Bills vs. 49ers, I don’t think Buffalo will cause him as much trouble as the Rams.

  16. By Cactus jeff on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    How about going the H back route with Heap or King to help in protection, then chip block on one side with Housler and run Fitz, Andre and Floyd on the outside. Just ditch the RB altogether on throwing downs.

  17. By ken on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Im the first to say im not a KK fan, but he is slowly changing my mind. When he came in week 1 i was thinking great here we go anouther 1-6 start, but he has done very well i think. Keep it up Kevin your doin great. Who knows maybe by end of season ill be a KK fan.

    GO CARDS!!!!!!

  18. By scott023 on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    We have much more talent than most. However, on offense we run on first down almost always. We not only run on first down we run into a bottled up line. our run with luck may produce a yard maybe two on the high side. Then we have to pass because we are behind.I just wonder if we used our running backs as receivers and surprise the world. A large group of friends were watching the cards vs rams game and called the run- pass plays before they happened without a miss. Now if we can do it my guess is the rams must know also and anyother team can also see how predictable we are. That is not the players so that only leaves the coaching, we must wake up and use our talent wisely!

  19. By Mr Robles on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Any Tackles Darren any word…Keith,Clifton or has Grimm been putting more work with current ones. They need help or just better technique Massie should become a better player I do believe that but sometimes its overwhelming for them.

  20. By Chuck 1 on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Very well said, Scott H.

  21. By john the draft guy on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    I love the cards matchup this week.

    This Bills team has issues with injuries and a very bad pass defense. Not to mention a QB who will turn over the ball several times. Their running backs are banged up and the oline is in shambles so bad, they signed Reggie Wells. With a home game, this should be a win for the cards even with their issues and injuries.

    When Kolb throws for 300 yds and the running game gets on track in this game, dont get too excited.

    Unlike Scott and others, I am not a Kolb fan. If Kolb hits the wide open Roberts on two occations, hits Housler over the top, this is a different game and the oline is not exposed. Kolb will be the first to say you have to make those throws.

    So be ready for the cards to move to 5-1 and Kolb to look good. This is the perfect game to fix all that seems wrong.

  22. By bluepitt on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    Please tell me that Powell was nervous in his spot on cards daily, I watched that interview and couldn’t understand a word! does he talk like that all the time? Or was it nerves?

  23. By Darren Urban on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    Bluepitt —

    RE: Powell

    He sounded fine to me.

  24. By johnnybluenose on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    darren. next time you are talking to mister weinfuss would you please tell him that the bills’ record is 2-3 not 3-2. hopefully it will soon be 2-4.

  25. By johnnybluenose on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    hello dynosoar. what’s a “shout out”? is that like an audible or something? yes, i did see it. we’re good. but i don’t see us any better than 10-6 this year and like someone else posted recently i think we definitely need to win on sunday to make the play-offs. we are in a very tough division. i don’t see the niners losing too many games this year and seattle and st louis are good. i actually think we will be better next year than this year but we got off to a good start and that could be enough to get invited to the show this year. i’m hoping. that would be exciting. i expect skelton to be active on sunday just in case kolb gets hurt. and maybe it was unwise to play dockett last week. looks like he is far from 100%. isn’t hindsight a wonderful thing?

  26. By KKfan on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ Scott H, I couldn’t have said it better. There is no better way to win your doubters or critics over, than by being a TEAM player and being professional..
    Kevin’s taken some hard knocks in his young football career. But as the saying goes, ” what don’t kill you, makes you stronger.” That no more evident than what we are seeing in Kevin.

    I finally watched that Rams game. It’s amazing the guy could even walk off the field in one piece , after the pounding he took.

    Kevin isn;’t the type to put the blame for things he could have done better on someone else. That’s never been his style. Even when he lost his job in Philly, he was ALWAYS supportive of Vick and wanted the team to do well.
    I wish him and the Cards continued success . Go get those Bills this week guys.

  27. By AJW3 on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    Well said Scott H……………I give you a big fat ‘DITTO’.

  28. By suspence716 on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    I wish kolb would yell at the lineman like cutler does… Cutler does it cuz he’s a good qb, he knows how to light a fire up under their butt n get em going. some players gotta get upset n start to play with a chip on their shoulder to be productive. If kolb got up n grabbed a lineman by his facemask n said come on man get ur head in the game after a sack I would be impressed, but I dont see kolb doin that.

  29. By Darren Urban on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    suspence —

    RE: Cutler

    You do realize Cutler was killed around the league, players included, for doing that?

  30. By Dynosoar on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    I wish we could wear uniforms like soccer (the other futball). As long as both teams aren’t wearing the same color (like the Cardinals and the Falcons both wearing red) they wear whatever color they want on game day.

    I think it’d be way cool to see us play, say the Vikings and have us in red and them in purple. Why do we have to always have one team in white. The teams could tell the difference.

  31. By D on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    This week should give AZ the best record, 5-1 that they will have all year. Probably will be a ugly win but Buffalo may have more issues than the Cards. Looking at the problems the Cards have and the strength of schedule the rest of the year, 8-8 or 9-7 is realistic. Fans shouldn’t get down on Kolb when they go through a tough set of games soon, I think he will be the starting QB next year if 8-8 or 9-7 is reached. He can win in this league. The front office has to get him help. The best way to have a long run competing for the playoffs is by the draft. As I see the issues on this team, here is a option they can explore in the draft:
    (winning record should make a draft position between 19-25)

    1) T. Lewan OT. Mich.
    Cut both LT’s if you think Potter could be the backup next year. This team hasn’t used a first round pick on a OL since Brown, time to upgrade the spot.
    2) S. Taylor RB Stanford
    Try to Trade Beanie or move on with him, cut any FA they may sign soon.
    Give Ryan W time to get healthy and compete with Taylor-also resign Hyphen
    3) A. Bailey OG Ark.
    Cut Synder at Left G and input Bailey. (coach up the draft pick from this past draft to push Colledge for the starting Right G spot)
    4) D. Taylor DE S. Carolina
    Need younger depth behind Dockett and a player to develop-he could be the next Antonio Smith.
    5) J. Attaochu OLB Georgia Tech
    The OLB spot opposite of Acho needs a consistant improved pass rush. OBrien has to get more pressure rest of this season.

  32. By conrad on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    We just have to ride it out we will be okaythe O-Line will turn it around and we will win on Sunday against the Bills. wWe do have to stick together.

  33. By brad oneill on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    kick returns dont matter anymore now that they are kicking off from the receiving teams 20.

    Yelling at the line won’t help, they know they are having trouble. its not like they are just slacking and relying on their talent, they are in over their head forced into action to early and there bad play is working against each other. you cant have the three worst performing linemen in the league on the same line and be happy.

    that said, is Duece out there somewhere, he may be a fat bastard but the man picks up his teammates and fights every play.

    Skelton should be in there, now. Kolb has done an admirable job but he has not helped the line by getting the ball out quick enough, nor has he made the throws that need to be made. that game we lost was winnable if he had made a couple of critical throws that he missed on.

  34. By bluepitt on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    Um… you are right Skelton would have gotten the ball out quicker as his 11TD’s to 14Int’s last year show us. He makes bad decisions when rushed!!!!!!

  35. By nodavis2000 on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply


    Darren, your replies to “Robert” are freaking hilarious!!! “I’m a long time fan, Put in Bridges”–> “As a long time fan, you should know Bridges is on IR.” EPIC!!!

  36. By casht1874 on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    the thing about Kolb right now is that he is staying up in the pocket keeping his head-eyes downfield. The problem is that he is always being hit or has to tweak his body/arm to get the throws off which is affecting his accuracy on some plays. He is playing smart, and that is what we want. What we have to understand and I know why Whiz blasted the WRs is that every throw is not going to be perfect..You have to make the plays. Housler is poor at adjusting to the ball, and Doucet seems out of sync. Floyd? I don’t know what his problem is, but I do like him around the goal line.

  37. By Scott H on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    Damn…not used to so many people agreeing with me! I guess I finally got it right. But there ain’t nothing brilliant about this. The game-planning needs to change. Period. And if you’re not gonna start running the ball more playing at home against a bad defensive team like the Bills…then when are you?

  38. By ndpenner on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    I was originally a Skelton fan, but Kolb has shown some poise in there. I don’t care at this point who’s behind center. I think both are capable, just wish the O-Line could give them SOME time…period. Fitz had at least 2 touchdowns, from the small portion of the game I was able to see, if Kolb had another fraction of a second to throw the ball. The O-Line looked pretty bad out there. I’ve seen other fans bashing Grimm now for the last 3 years, and I’m starting to wonder the same things they are…I’d love for the O-Line to flip it around, love for Grimm to untarnish his image here, but if things don’t change he needs to go.

  39. By The everlasting Kolbstopper on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    I love people saying “Kolb doesn’t get the ball out fast enough”. You realize he is getting sacked when the other team is rushing 4, some times 3 which puts 8 guys in the feild guarding 5. Do you want him to throw interceptions or take sacks? I’d prefer the sack. Kolb has played about as well as anybody can play behind this line. Kolb is far superior when it comes to talent compared to Skelton. Skelton is a bum.

  40. By Cardinalsforlife on Oct 12, 2012 | Reply

    If Kolb is starting when John is 100%, it’s extremely idiotic.
    All you have to do is look at the game tape,. Kolb supporters with quickly point to the sacks, in defense to his play.
    However the guy misses most of his clutch throws, he always has and he probably always will.
    If Kolb starts the rest of the season, even if we go 5-1, I can easily see us finishing 8-8 for the year.
    If you look at the tape, Kolb should have threw three interceptions at the rams.
    He got very very lucky.
    Dolphins game he threw two, the eagles game he probably should have thrown three.
    The Patriots game he fumbled.
    How is Nine projected turnovers/ turnovers okay, in four weeks?
    I mean I could see if the guy could hit most of his clutch throws, when it mattered but he can’t.
    He’s barley even a game manager with the way he looks horrible at times.
    It seems people forgot John’s clutch play last year and forget Kolb isn’t any better than he was last year.

  41. By Cardinalsforlife on Oct 12, 2012 | Reply

    @ Blue Pit
    Yeah Skelton’s bad choices right? Is that why he’s 8-2 as a starter?
    You do know most of John’s turnovers came because he was pretty much a rookie right?
    He hasn’t even started 16 games in his career.
    Kolb has started over 20, he’s older and has less upside. If he was so great the Eagles would have kept him and traded Vick….

  42. By BIG RED on Oct 12, 2012 | Reply

    Thank You, Brad Oneill for your comments at least someone knows what his talking about.

  43. By BIG RED on Oct 12, 2012 | Reply

    Bluepit you don’t know anything. Your the one that is crazy over #4.

  44. By Eric Hutchins on Oct 12, 2012 | Reply

    Cardinalsforlife Your logic is laughable…….. Its understandable that Skelton throws a lot of picks, because he is a rookie, SO HE SHOULD START. AHHHHHH I understand, cant believe I did not see that before.

    And that 4 game difference in number of starts between the two guys is statistically HUGE.

    Its funny that you Skelton Folks want to ignore his incredibly uninspiring play, his terrible accuracy his terrible QB rating, his record setting number of 3-and-outs, and his more-picks-than-TD’s and just talk about his wins like he carried the team on his back while he did it. But now that Kolb actually has a defense playing while he is, and they are winning that old he-just-wins-stuff about Skelton is starting to be a little less dramatic.

    Skelton is a solid back up, the problem is the coach and some silly fans have blown his head up into thinking he is a starter and now we will have to trade him. Its ok though because our Number 3 in the long run will be better than him anyway.

  45. By Eric Hutchins on Oct 12, 2012 | Reply

    Cardinalsforlife,,, and the one about Vick is pretty funny too, so all teams are always perfect on their personnel assessments huh, Warner actually was a TERRIBLE QB because two teams gave up on him. How did that guy that the Rams dumped Warner for work out????

  46. By philly cards on Oct 13, 2012 | Reply

    Put skelton on ir and let’s get on with our lives. The girl your engaged to wants u back everythings working. Leave ur buddys ugly sister alone.she’s owed no loyalty.

  47. By Scott H on Oct 13, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb was getting buried so quickly during the last two games that if were going to get the ball out faster, he would probably have to ask the center to pass it himself instead of snapping it back to him.

    I, myself, have criticiized Kolb in the past for holding the ball too long. But that applies a whole lot less when you are being subjected to the all out jail breaks that he is facing recently. When you can’t even take a 3 step drop and plant before you’re being engulfed, then holding the ball too long is NOT the problem.

    And when you abandon the run and insist on trying to pass all the time, it only gets worse. Run the damn ball.

  48. By Louisville Card on Oct 14, 2012 | Reply

    @Eric Hutchins

    I agree with most of what you say about cardinalsforlife’s comment. I also don’t understand his comment about Kolb not making clutch throws. Those are the ones he actually has been good at this year. It’s the one’s early in the game that he misses on. I’m not a huge Kolb fan or of Skelton either.

    I also don’t think Eric that we have to worry about trading Skelton because he wants to start. Just because you think you should start doesnt mean the rest of the league does. Name a team that would want them as their starter?

    I think the debate over the two now is really moot anyway. Do you think either of them are really gonna be here beyond next year. Kolb and Skelton both will finish out their deals and be gone to be backups on some other team. They will either draft a qb this year or next, I think next. OL and RB are more pressing needs, but we’ll see.

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