Defense sure it is spelled t-e-a-m, and some notes

Posted by Darren Urban on October 19, 2012 – 2:15 pm

The Cardinals’ offensive players have said a few times that their unit needs to start playing to the level of the defense. It is only logical that some would wonder about the frustration level of the defense as they wait for the offense to come around. But defenders aren’t going there.

“We all get off the bus together, we all are in the locker room together,” defensive tackle Darnell Dockett said. “But we have to focus on what we do on defense. They’ll get it together.

“There are games where they bailed us out,” Dockett added, noting the Miami outing when the Cards gave up a ton of passing yards. “I’m tired of people saying defense has to be the backbone, defense, defense, defense. We’re a team at the end of the day.”

That works for defensive coordinator Ray Horton. “I’ve never said that (message) to them so it is great they answer that way,” Horton said. “If (the question) was posed to me, I’d go back one year when we were 1-6 and (the defense) didn’t do our job, so we understand where we came from.”

— As expected safety Kerry Rhodes won’t play Sunday in Minnesota with his bad back, and quarterback Kevin Kolb is of course out. Fullback Anthony Sherman (knee) and cornerback Greg Toler (hamstring) are doubtful. Tight end Todd Heap remains limited and questionable with his sore knee, and frankly, at this point, I’m guessing he won’t play until he gets back to practicing fully. I’ve been burned too many times thinking he’d be back. He’ll give it a try pre-game Sunday though and see how it feels.

— I know there are a bunch of questions about the Cards and the status of trying to sign offensive lineman Chris Williams. Here’s the deal: He visited the Cards. He had already visited the Eagles and now Mike Jurecki noted he’s visiting the Chargers. Williams looks like he will have options. Could he sign here? Sure. If he does, it’d probably be after the weekend. But the Cards have to want him, he has to want to come here (and he certainly would seem to have a good opportunity to play here) and then a contract has to be worked out. I’ll let you know something as soon as I know.

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11 Responses to “Defense sure it is spelled t-e-a-m, and some notes”

  1. By Rich on Oct 19, 2012 | Reply

    Why did the Bears release Williams?

  2. By Darren Urban on Oct 19, 2012 | Reply

    Rich —

    RE: Williams

    Ultimately, because they didn’t think he was very good.

  3. By D on Oct 19, 2012 | Reply

    I would guess this maybe Mr. Heap’s last year with AZ, too injury prone…maybe an area to upgrade in free agency this spring….Jared Cook or Delanie Walker would look nice as a Card if they make it to free agency….

  4. By Voice of Reason on Oct 19, 2012 | Reply

    Williams has the talent to have been a first round pick in 2008. While he didn’t set the world on fire, he was to be the starter at LT that year, and then they had a chance to get Orlando Pace, so he moved to the right side. Had some injuries, but appears healthy now and simply fell out of favor with the coaching staff.

    The Cards have a guy starting at LT that played backug guard his whole career, and he just does not have the footspeed to play the position effectively. Massie, I believe, will get better with seasoning, but he is playing like a rookie right now.

    Williams is an instant talent upgrade over Batiste. So the Cards should want him badly. It isn’t often you can pluck a former first round OT and see what you can do with him. Beats a former undrafted guy all day long.

    Let’s hope Williams sees that he could come in and get relatively quick playing time most likely, and the bar is so low that him being merely average will make him look all world.

  5. By john the draft guy on Oct 19, 2012 | Reply


    I agree, this is it for Heap. His constant injuries are spelling the end for him. As Parcels always said, It doesn’t matter how good you are, if you cant stay on the field, I can’t keep you.

    I do like the combo of Housler and King. Watching Housler live, he can really run and could be a real threat in the passing game. He is open often.

    Well, he would be a threat if we had a QB that could get it too him and an offense that actually designed plays for him.

    What I am trying to say is, if Housler were on the Patriots or Saints, he would be a household name. It would be nice to see that develop this weekend.

    As for Chris Williams, he has been a huge disappointment. He was beaten out of a starting job by a 7th round pick (J’Marcus Webb) and now, couldnt even hold on as a backup. Who is Webb? he is the guy Cutler bagged into on the sidelines when Webb kept getting beat. So, dont get too excited about Williams.

  6. By john the draft guy on Oct 19, 2012 | Reply

    I do like the article above, Defense is spelled team. I also like Dockett was the one quoted in it.

    After all, Dockett has become the ultimate team player this year in Horton’s defense. Much of the season, Horton has gone with this 2 down lineman alignment with Dockett and Campbell as the 2 down. Those two have been doubled and are taking abuse while DWash is coming clean and making plays.

    I’m sure we will see Big Williams in more this week in the more traditional 3-4 alignment with AP running the ball and that massive OLIne. And I’m sure if Dockett was honest, he would fit better in a traditional 4-3 defense with a big guy in the “1” hole. But he is giving up himself and playing this defense, while not getting noticed or even being questioned why Dockett isnt making more plays.

    Simply put, Docketts numbers are down cuz he is about T-E-A-M and he is giving up himself so others can shine. Sometimes your best seasons are the ones nobody notices. Well except your teammates and coaches.

    At least that is the way I see it.

  7. By red c rider on Oct 19, 2012 | Reply

    that draft guy john makes excellent points re Housler and Chris Williams.

    I will say this: we all have modest expectations for players of Williams’s caliber. HOWEVER, what do we have to lose when we have an o-line as troubled as ours? The team doesn’t really have options so when a former 1st round pick with starting experience and in relatively decent health becomes available, you have to aggressively pursue him – if for no other reason but to attempt keeping your quarterback safe from season-ending injuries.

    re: Housler, Kolb always seemed to have trouble clicking with him to begin with.

  8. By Scott H on Oct 19, 2012 | Reply

    Injuries have certainly not been kind to us this year. Neither has playing in Minnesota. Can’t even remember the last time we won a game there but there has been no shortage of losses recently, that is for sure. Looks like the Vikings are now getting the attention that the Cardinals were a few weeks back as THE surprise team in the NFC. It would sure be nice to win this one and bring that attention back our way. AND to keep pace with the 49ers. AND keep the Seahawks behind us. The NFC West is just plain SCARY with the defense from top to bottom. Need to see the Cardinals getting back to being a little more scary, themselves. Seems like they have fallen off the past two games. Looking forward to seeing a re-bound this week. SOME phase of this team needs to bring the fire against the Vikings. Don’t care which one ( or TWO! ) it is, I just need to see it from SOMEWHERE. They’ve been too flat across the board lately. Enough. Time to wake up and bring it and keep this train rollin.’

    Otherwise, that 4-0 start becomes a distant memory.

    C’mon, gentlemen…BRING IT!!!

  9. By georgiebird on Oct 19, 2012 | Reply

    This article makes sense. The defense just has to go back to the end of the 3rd quarter of the Bills game when they let the inept Bills go 80 yards on 5 plays after the Cardinals had scored a FG.
    The Cardinals defense has no reason to be anything but humble. It’s demoralizing to see our 3 man front and a small Daryl Washington behind them. How EASY is this to run against?
    And everyone on this site complaining about injuries. If we aren’t one of the healthiest teams in football, I’d be surprised. And we are most certainly the healthiest defense in the league.

  10. By Jason Marcus on Oct 20, 2012 | Reply

    Hate to say it but, Kolb and Heap are outy 5000, not unless Kolb comes back in week 13 and lights up everything in his path, don’t see it happening. Maybe SKelton gets it together ahhhh I don’t know sick of the qb bs.

  11. By Wild Boar on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Todd Heap WAS one of the best tight ends in the league when he played for the Ravens…. But right when he moves here he starts getting injuries. I think Heap’s NFL time is up.
    If we develop a better O line this year with Kolb in the backfield, Housler is going to be in the top 5 tight end list. HE can catch, he can run, he can bounce off tackles; perfect tight end! I disagree about adding a free agent tight end. Maybe, you could add a veteran that could teach Housler some things (similar from what McNabb did to Ponder in Minnesota).
    I hope we get Williams even if he isn’t the best O line player he still will improve our offense! Our recruiting coaches need to get started on those offensive lineman NOW!

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