Stingy defenses, and the numbers to back it up

Posted by Darren Urban on October 24, 2012 – 11:08 am

Sometimes, stats don’t tell a lot. Sometimes, one stat can tell everything. That’s how it feels for the upcoming Monday game against the 49ers.

Over the last 16 games, the top two teams in the NFL in terms of fewest offensive touchdowns allowed will face off at University of Phoenix Stadium. The 49ers have given up just 21 offensive touchdowns, the Cardinals just 22. If anyone is expecting offensive fireworks, that would seem to be far-fetched. The 49ers are coming off a game in which they beat the Seahawks, 13-6. The Cards, of course, lost to Minnesota but gave up just 14 points on defense.

None of this is a revelation. But it seems certain that the Cardinals will be under even more pressure to avoid errors. They probably won’t get a ton of chances to score. Last year, they dented the 49ers in their 21-19 win because quarterback John Skelton was able to get a couple of big plays, long touchdown passes to Larry Fitzgerald and Early Doucet. Plays down the field have been limited for the Cards thus far this season. A couple this week would change the dynamic of the game.

— The Cards reportedly worked out kicker Josh Brown, after Jay Feely’s recent struggles. I don’t see anything happening now, but it’s an option if Feely continues to have issues. He did just complete a streak of 19 straight field goals made earlier this season — plus he made that 61-yarder — so he has produced. But on a team with which points are at a premium, misses loom much larger.

— There will be a food drive at Monday night’s game against the 49ers. Volunteers from Sagicor, St. Mary’s Food Bank Alliance and Cardinals Cheerleaders will be at collection points outside of all five stadium gates and the Great Lawn. Fans are encouraged to bring non-perishable food items and/or money for donation.

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40 Responses to “Stingy defenses, and the numbers to back it up”

  1. By sarah on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Let’s cut Feely some slack, he won allot of games there in the end and the 61 yarder. Solid player who had a blip let’s not go after his kicking confidence.

  2. By chevy on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    No. Let’s just cut feely.

  3. By Dynosoar on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    I’m with Sarah! And adding to her comments, how many kickers win offensive player of the week? For that matter, how many kickers score touchdowns?

    We need our O-line to perform like they did in the first couple of weeks, then 22 points or more and with our D, the game is ours.

    Let’s give to San Fran what they gave to the Jets and the Bills. (And no, I don’t expect it, but I’d be grinning for weeks if we did.)

  4. By lg on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    whats done is done but it needs not to happen again a 38 yarder for the game missed i will never forget that thats how the bills beat us not blocked but miss.but you right we will need him again hopfully his confidence will get him thru this

  5. By Fan in Chi Town on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    As far as Feely goes, I agree with Sarah. I think he’s done a solid job, much better than my painful memories of Rackers missing almost every chance to win a game he had. I think whichever team gets the running game going in this game will prevail because I believe with both of these defenses and quarterbacks the passing game for each team will almost be nonexistent. They might even bring out Jacobs against us.

  6. By rodgerscromartie17 on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    The Niners defense probably wont be a factor in this game, it will be thier offense vs our defense all 4 quarters

  7. By Jordan on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    I agree sarah. You don’t win the amount of close games that we’ve one without a quality kicker.

  8. By John Donohue on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    I like Feely but…… The miss in saint Louis changed the dynamics , great kick aside vs Buffalo, the missed kick may come back to haunt them and then a momentum turning miss at the end of the half…. Given all that my biggest issue is that he never pins the opposition on deep kickoffs. Every team the cards face seem to be able to return kicks vs the cards being 8 yards deep and downing it. Time for a fresh kicker to let the def start at the twenty vs 25 plus… Lastly. Josh brown isn’t the answer though…

  9. By sarah on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Goldson, this is a guy we got to beat ! It is going to be tough to convert on 3rd down passing, hopefully Skelton doesn’t become gun shy in passing after all the critics. Protect the ball but we have to take shots down field, want to see Floyd’s capabilities. We tend to play i tight until the last 5 minutes, we need to open up earlier if warranted.

  10. By hotValleySun on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Agree with Sarah and others. Like what Feely has done minus the last three games.

    Hope Feely gets back to good form.

  11. By grabling on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Trade Deadline

    Mr. Urban,

    Honestly… Do you think Kolb or Skelton are the Qbs that this team need to be successful and win a Superbowl? Do you like Tim Tebow to be part of this team? if there is any chance to trade for Tebow, what you would give up to bring him to Arizona?

  12. By Darren Urban on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    grabling —

    RE: Tebow

    I would not trade for Tebow. That makes no sense to me.

  13. By erik on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    How ironic that they would bring in a kicker to tryout because Feely (our only consistent source of points) has a couple of bad plays, yet they are absolutely against bringing in someone like Young to help out guys that have had a couple of bad YEARS.

    What we really need, though, is to replace Mike Miller. He obviously isn’t helping the offense in any way.

  14. By philly cards on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    with a rare great defense all we needed this year was a top 15 or 20 offense and its automatic nfc championship.

    Someone must pay.and his name rhymes with fizz.

    I miss the newness of a new coach and the hope that comes with it.sometimes winning two or three more games makes it harder for the next guy.

    I thank dennis green for throwing in the towel because it made the players use the time to reevaluate.

    When you cut players or players don’t work out or lost to FA. it causes stress on the roster because you deviate from the original plan.and whatever that was its gone.

    This is a team of patchwork aka paper tigers –2002 allover again. with no major additions I’ve seen enough football to know this isn’t going to end better than last year- kolb or no kolb.

    Larry centers would make teams like this look a lot better.helping the line,the run and pass games.skelton would be ok with two top larrys but we don’t have him so there is no real hope.

    18th yr 🙁

  15. By Dynosoar on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Larod and Housler/King in the backfield. Fitz, Andre and either Floyd/Doucet all wide. Let the ball fly! No defense would dare rush and if they don’t, a screen to the Hyphen or TE with space to run would be sweet to see.

    Let’s play like they vote in Chicago, throw early and throw often.

    No need to thread a pass and risk interceptions, we’ve got the talent to have someone open every down.

  16. By LadyBird04 on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Before we get rid of Feely – who happens to generate points for the team, we should get the o-line functioning properly. They are a much more important problem for the Cardinals. Yes – Feely has had his problems but if we stop giving up 8 or 9 sacks a game, we might not need to have him making 61yd field goals to save a game.

  17. By alexmannsportskings on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Darren PFF says Campbell should be a Pro-Bowler, yet Washington should not. There reasoning is that he has 6 missed tackles, two coming last week which happened on both TD drives by the Vikings… Your thoughts?

  18. By Darren Urban on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Alexmann —

    RE: Pro Bowl

    I think their reasoning goes deeper than that, including the fact there are some pretty good inside linebackers in the NFC.

  19. By D on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Draft Update for Cards.
    The top Off Left Tackles in the next draft per Russ Lande are
    1-Luke Jockel 1st round pick
    2- Taylor Lewan 1st round pick (scottsdale native)
    The Cards final record will move them up in the draft from the current spot (17th)
    Since the Cards will most likely win more than the Browns, Jags and Chiefs, the odds of getting one of the two top QB’s (Smith and Barkley) are slim to none, so that leaves one of these 2 Left tackles that AZ could draft around pick 12-14

    My suggestion is to take one of the tackles in round 1 and then draft a QB in round 2, like a Landry Jones.

  20. By rodgerscromartie17 on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    By Darren Urban on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply
    grabling –
    RE: Tebow
    I would not trade for Tebow. That makes no sense to me.

    Hahahahaha, ummm NO Darren, what DOES NOT make sense is why they are working out a kicker to possibly replace Feely (who is the only player who can put points on the board) when we could be working out other OT’s, QUARTERBACKS, or even another RB. this entire teams management does not make sense, look at the last couple off seasons, those are things that DO NOT make sense, this teams roster DOES NOT make sense.

    There should be no question as to why ano of this teams problems are about, any REAL fan should know, ITS ALL ABOUT THE SPENDING OF THE MONEY

  21. By rodgerscromartie17 on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Darren, not that I care about Tebow ever being a Cardinal, but if trading for him doesnt make sense, where did you stand on the Kolb trade???

  22. By Rick on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Darren ,
    With 20 million in cap space why don’t the cardinals sign jake scott or how come we didn’t pursue Chris Williams more aggressively? Are there any possible trade rumors to give our o line much needed help ?

  23. By Darren Urban on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Rick —

    RE: Cap space

    $20 million? Where are you getting that?

  24. By Rick on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Article by Shaun m church via bleacher report. States roughly around 20 million in cap space does that sound accurate to you ?

  25. By Darren Urban on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Rick —

    RE: Cap space

    Seems pretty high to me. I would be surprised if they have double digits of cap space.

  26. By NJAzCardsFan on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Darren- Is Lindley ready to step in if Skelton gets hurt??? Does he get any reps in practice?

    We need an OL not Tebow….. It would be really interesting to see how good our QB’s could be if they had some time to seek out the receivers and throw the ball without being under pressure all of the time……

  27. By Darren Urban on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    NJAz —

    RE: Lindley

    He’s getting the same amount of reps any backup would.

  28. By lg on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    well last year john skelton throw all over the 49ers and i think he can this year if the oline block for him

  29. By cobra on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Some of you :

    Really, Tebow?

    Mayve he can spend some of his trade mark money on the OL? [

  30. By Credit Card on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Trying out a new kicker is similar to re-arranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic. The ultimate real problem is our offensive line the tackles are inexperienced, while our guards have been a huge disappointment. Because the other teams are NFL teams they are allowed to, and do study Cardinal tapes. In their studies, they can figure out from the formation if it is a 3 step drop, or 5 step etc.. The already weakened OL with predictable places with a stationary QB — leaves little chance of success, scoring points, moving the ball etc… But also leaves the QB’s volunerable to injury. Each succession game with more tape(s) to study is proving this theory, and they are attacking our weakness — as they should. As a result, the Cards s/b looking at a very mobile QB who has a body to take a hit. The only player that comes to mind is Tebow. I’m not advocating Tebow will bring this team to the Super Bowl, but I do believe his talents as a player will “fit” the inherent weakness that the Cardinals are having to deal with. Also, the quality of the Cardinal WR’s will “fit” well with Tebow’s inaccuracy and his abilty to scamble and make time will add a dimension of excitement to the WR offense. Trying out a different kicker is only fooling ourselves in our warm and cozy world of denial.

  31. By lg on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    they need to try out some olinemen realtalk

  32. By Rio on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Who the heck is Sarah ????

    Tim Tbow, Wow are we all gone insane.

  33. By sarah on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    SF predicting feeding frenzy via Cards !

  34. By Mike in Mesa on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    This stationary QB talk cracks me up. Are all fans just parrots? Have they all forgotten some of the runs Skelton has had the last couple years? And most of those were for positive yards. Until he hurt his ankle he was far from stationary. Not to mention some of the awesome blocks he initiated last year. Did anyone note the tackle Skelton made last week? His technique looked perfect. The one thing I hate about the advance of technology is the knee jerk reactions from everyone. This includes the announcers and so called experts on TV. When I heard the internal clock comment, I laughed. Skelton still looks more impressive in the pocket to me. The coaches need to turn him loose as a gunslinger ala Favre. Picks be damned. This conservative coached passing game needs to go.

  35. By Scott H on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    An impressive accomplishment which would appear to put the Cardinals right there with the 49ers. Until…you look at the win-loss record and you see the numbers that matter above ALL others. The Cardinals are playing at a top notch level on D, there is no denying. But the 49ers are playing at that level in ALL phases. Until the Cardinals can step up to THAT level, there will continue to be a considerable disparity between these teams.

  36. By Eazy E on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with everybody pro-Feely. Why in the hell would we work out Josh when Feely is a pro bowl kicker and is in a little slump that beforehand, he was an elite kicker and still is. I also agree with the pro-Tebow crowd. Our QBs, you just can’t trust them really and I know our O-Line is awful from a to l, but do you really really trust Kolb and/or Skelton?! I don’t, I’m a Skelton guy way over Kolb, but Skelton talking about he performed well Sunday and the O moved up and down on Minnesota, what film was he watching. Stats do lie sometimes, most of the game, we struggled mightily, matter of fact, the whole damn game. Tebow I trust and believe in more as a QB than both honestly and that was before the season. He knows how to win almost no matter what. Also, why aren’t we signing Chris Williams and Vince Young? Chris is far from great, but on our line, he might be the 2nd best linemen behind Sendlein and that is sad as hell. VY is another QB I would like and was happy and then disappointed when I heard he was working out with us Tuesday and then it got shot down and said he’s working with QB guru George Whitfield and hopes to play with the Cards. And last, but not least, trade for my dude Chris Ivory out of the N.O. They ain’t playing him and he had a pretty good rookie year a year ago. Larod need some help and Ivory can run the ball.

  37. By Jason Marcus on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Feely nothing more than Feely! He’s a beast kicker , hey everyone has ruts, overall a solid guy I’m sure he will rebound from this just fine, c’mon everyone remember when he ran in the fake kick for the td a couple yrs back against Denver, I love Feely he fits well here, we’re gonna Get these 69ers Monday night beast mode in full effect.!,! Go CArds!!,,

  38. By Jason Marcus on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    OK everyone stop asking for TBlow he’s stinks , nobody wants him , he would not fit in here at all Skelton is a much better Qb than him .I know it’s hard with all the rumors. I myself asked Urban if we were really working out Vince Young and was like why not… when he replied NO , but think about it we don’t need that circus nonsense here right now the org thinks these are our guys so that’s that. Steven Jackson would be interesting that dude lives in beast mode, but probably not happening.

  39. By The Jack on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Cards are not gonna win this game, not unless the Oline plays at anunexpected level, Skelton will throw a couple of ints for sure and SF will meltdown the birds. A bold prediction? SF will come through air more than ground, + 350 passing yards.

    Cutting feely? what a foolish…

    Cards needs a QB in 2013 Draft, the Oline should be traded in FA – experience – .

    Mike Miller is limited, he’s the one to be cut.

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