New starting OL with Snyder out; Heap still down

Posted by Darren Urban on October 29, 2012 – 4:10 pm

The Cardinals will have a change in the starting offensive line for the first time this season, with right guard Adam Snyder sitting out with his quad injury, sending Rich Orhnberger into the lineup against the 49ers on “Monday Night Football.” Ohrnberger did a decent job in relief of Snyder in Minnesota after Snyder got hurt.

Tight end Todd Heap (knee) also remains sidelined for a sixth straight game.

The rest of the inactive list for the Cardinals is:

— QB Kevin Kolb (ribs)

— CB Greg Toler (hamstring)

— WR LaRon Byrd

— LB Jamaal Westerman

— G Senio Kelemete

And in case you missed it, the roof will be open tonight as well at University of Phoenix Stadium, the first time this season.

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43 Responses to “New starting OL with Snyder out; Heap still down”

  1. By cdj on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    i really hope orhnberger plays well

  2. By AndyStandsUp on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Wrong about Kelemete.
    Hopefully, no more injuries on the OL. Gonna be thin enough as is.

  3. By georgiebird on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Good move on OL- it’s great the team is trying a new mix whether Snyder is injured or not.
    The Cards defense has to show up- both rush defense and pass defense in the same game. Last week everyone made a big deal of Ponder’s putrid day- but our defense gave up easy rush yardage in the 1st half.
    So I.m looking for the defense to play a complete game for a change,
    Cards can win if the special teams(PP) have a great day.

  4. By cobra on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Nothing worse than having to listen to the East Coast Idiots before game time. Whatever!

  5. By philly cards on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Wow didn’t the 9ers replace him with leonard davis??? Why did we think the west champs let a good ol starter go?

  6. By D on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    When SD blows out the staff and hires Andy Reid, Cards need to hire Norv as OC next year to develop a first or second round QB and be the play caller.
    And let Norv bring in another Oline coach to coach up some new players for next year…

  7. By Andy Kw on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    CARDS LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So sad:(

  8. By cobra on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I thought I would never say this. It’s time to let the rookie play in the second half. Skelton sucks, yet he is all we have to start a few more games. Time for Lindley to be take his turn.

  9. By Andy Kw on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I’m done with the Cardinals. I take off my free time just to watch my favorite team lose. This team is hopeless. All I care about now are stats. Get Larry Fitzgerald to a 1000yd season and that is all I care about.

  10. By Red cards on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    This oline makes me sick!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. By Andy Kw on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    3 Games that we should have won just slips out of our fingers.
    St.Louis: Our team had a 3-7 deficit. Then our team missed a field goal. That miss ruined our chances completely. That made our team need to go for touchdowns for the rest of the drives we had which we missed on 2 drives within the 10.
    Buffalo: Jay Feely missed the field goal in the last few seconds that could have won us the game. Apparently the field goal was blocked but any kicker within the good range of a field goal should have made it.
    Minnesota: Jay Feely missed the field goal that was pretty short. We intercepted a pass and had field goal range a few seconds before the half. That could have brought us to a 10-14 deficit but we did not convert.

  12. By wnycardfan on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    so, I knew not to watch/listen, but before going to bed (out here on east coast) I tuned in online to see what was up. I had a feeling they were going to get destroyed. Sure as Sh** 17-0 at half. They open the 3rd quarter, look OK. But they try to pound hyphen up the middle on that D-line? Then I look at stats. Punt x 5, 29 OFF plays for the whole game so far, 8 of which are rushing (nice play calling there) and all 8 with hyphen. I like hyphen, but maybe try powell???? Maybe try more than 8 rushes by the 2nd half?? WTH, geez. I knew they would blow the play calling. So far only 1 sack, that is something worth talking about (so far). Who the hell is guarding crabtree??? 72 yrd 2 TD’s 49er’s have 10 days to prepare for us and make us look (AGAIN) like wussies on MNF. We have 10 days to prepare for Buffalo and they make us look like high schoolers. I know “jump off the bandwagon loser” is what I”ll get for posting this. But dog gone it would you just perform half way decent on MNF and be in the game for ONCE. What happened to all that BIG talk about THIS IS MONDAY NIGHT, and we got something to prove etc…. Looks like we proved it again, we stink on MNF and against 49ers. HEY look as I type this 24 – 0 we just made old man moss look like a new man. I can’t take this anymore

  13. By Credit Card on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Wow 8 rushes for 6 yards long of 11 yards. This means 7 attempts went for minus 5 yards. This very could be a modern NFL football rushing low. Lets face it. Through average study all NFL teams can “figure out” in a nano second how to beat the Cards and their awful OL. Last year RGIII was at this time of year projected to be a mid 1st rounder. I thought his talents could potentially compensate for such an awful OL. Obvious this didn’t happen, and we picked a WR — which is a waste, since the OL is sooo dreadful. Again, this team needs a scrambling QB who can buy time. This QB has to be big enough to take repeated hits. Throwing accuracy and ability to read a defense is secondary to his raw athletism. The only potential NFL QB that fit these requirements that i know of, is Tim Tebow.

  14. By The Voice of Reason on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    This team has been unwatchable over the last four games. The offensive play calling is miserable, the O-line is a sieve, the drafting has been shown to be incompetent (see the offensive line, quarterback situation, Dan Williams, Michael Floyd, etc.), and we have just finished the easiest stretch of the season. The majority of our remaining games are on the road and are mostly against good teams. If someone doesn’t get fired before this one is through, I will be really disappointed. I had hoped the Michael Bidwill era would mean more accountability in this organization. Let’s hope the ownership comes through and makes some changes to the coaching staff and general manager.

  15. By Credit Card on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply


    You attend Cardinal practices, level with us fans — do the offensive lineman show up at practices? have they this season?

  16. By Credit Card on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Another QB potential would be Usain Bolt. We need someone with literally world class speed to avoid the on-going rush.

  17. By Credit Card on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    4th qtr 3rd an 23 with 8 minutes to go, and down by three touchdowns. Time to call a time-out and talk it over. I have an idea. Time to discuss with the media and fan base why they thnk their OL and OL schemes do not need radical improvement.

  18. By wnycardfan on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    sorry, still checking it out. Its getting so bad its like a car wreck you can’t stop looking at. Almost a joke. National TV. And some wonder why cardinals don’t get any respect or love? Here’s proof. They are getting completely manhandled. DEF looks ok, but letting 3 TD’s by Smith (one by MOSS???) just makes you look like a pretender. There is NO WAY they can recover the season. NO WAY. 4 straight losses, 4 sacks so far, I’m betting its about 6 by game time end since they’ll be throwing every down now. Hell, been doing that every game (it seems) since 1st qtr. 2 rec by Fitz. Might as well bench him so he doesn’t get hurt, put FLoyd out there for some practice. Put the 3rd string QB out there for practice.
    GB will kill them. Falcons will kill them.

  19. By Red cards on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Heads better roll end of this season

  20. By Credit Card on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Basically the same coaching staff, and most of the same players — any doubters out there that doesn’t thnk Kurt Warner is not an automatic HOFer.

  21. By mastonite on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    this team is bad. sad to say i am a cards fan!!!! GRAVES/WIZ HAVE TO GO

  22. By Rich on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    We Need A Change at The Top !

  23. By Credit Card on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    What the coach should say after this game to the media:

    We played like a huge grande burrito turd that sunk to the bottom of the toilet and just stunk up the whole room.

  24. By paul on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    i am embarrased to b a cardinal fan i hate to say been a fan since they were in stl but enough is enough first off fire the offense line coach they suck we looked like we were just trying not to get hurt 7 rushing yards are u kidding me wth we need to rebuild starting with wiz he got lucky when warner came in fire the entire coaching staff or im looking for a tat removal guy

  25. By Jason Marcus on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Awful game, no offense whatsoever ever ,no protection, sub par qb play no run game and all this up against one of the best defenses which also happens to be in our division , we didn’t look even pumped up to play or anything the defense struggled against the run and Smith had enough time to throw, they also called very good plays against us. I watched the oline at times and it was sickening, we look like a college offense who happens to have FItz aboard for the downward spiral, this game was almost identical to last years first 69er game, we got routed, and I saw this coming from a mile away. We have huge pieces missing and will continue to struggle until resolved, also I heard a lot of booing today everyone is over this crapp.

  26. By Jason Marcus on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Dose anyone still think we can win with Skelton? And no oline?

  27. By Credit Card on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Weeks 14 through week 17 spells doom for the Cards. these teams have decent DLs. The Cards weakness (OL) is so bad, that a better an average DL = no chance for the Cards. After week 13, time to paint the house.

  28. By brom on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    The OL is breaking records for giving up the most sacks in the past two years. I’m 100% convinced that the game has evolved past Grimm by light years. If you can’t figure out a way to get better blocking schemes, study a team that knows how. This is a team sport. The offense is starting to rub off on the defense. The tackling looks like the blocking today. Rather than doing so much talking about hating someone, the Cards need to focus on their execution. I’m sure they do hate getting their butts kicked by the niners. PP has a long way to go. If he’s our best corner, we are in trouble. It’s obvious the niners are on a different level. The 4 & 0 start appears to be the hoax the experts believed it was. During the winning streak there were still too many mistakes that the team obviously can’t get corrected. Defenses are licking their chops when they see the schedule. Speaking of schedules, will the Cards win another game? Come on Cards!!!!

  29. By Corgon on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I can not find any words for this. Shame on the team., Alex Smith can hold an NFL record?????? Really? Laughable.
    I thought it before, but now i’m sure, PP21 one of the weakest link in the D. He’s not just not a shut down corner but not even a good one. He can’t stay on his feet, burned lots of time, penalties, missed tackles…..(I think the harvin TD was on him as well) He’s playing now the same level as week one last year. Today my 83 year old grandmother would be a better choice at the CB post..
    O playcalling….terrible
    run game….terrible
    O line doesn’t even exist
    I’m very very dissapointed.
    I hope there is a road back, but it’ll be very hard.

  30. By Bay Area Bad Boy on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Hate losing to the Niners. Have to go to work and deal with all these Niner a**holes. All I can say is the offense absolutely sucks and changes need to be made. This was an ugly loss on National TV in front of the entire country. Its embarrassing. Just flat out embarrassing.

  31. By scubasteve12 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    whats it gonna take for people to understand skelton isnt doing it. im sure hes a cool guy but he is not taking us anywhere

  32. By Cardinal on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    skelton does suck… too many overpaid non tacklers on defense… cards fan for 37 yrs and this is sickening .. that coach has got to go . why would a player ever get angry and get tired of getting run over , when the coach just stands there and NEVER has any emotion at all!!He has never shown players he will stick up for them during a game . All he does is just runs good players out of town , Big , dansby, rolle , boldin , etc. SF 49ers …. every player plays hard and rarely miss a tackle , sure do wish we had a coach like they have !!

  33. By scubasteve12 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    how embarassing

  34. By rojobird on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply



  35. By cardsalltheway on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Demotions don’t happen on our OL, players are only replaced in the case of default/injury. I’m on the record for saying last year during the season that our WR core was good enough and that we didn’t need to make a move to get a No. 2 WR, so that would tell you that I certainly wasn’t for drafting one in the 1st round. Epic Failure! Nate Potter, your day will come perhaps on another team in the future unless someone else gets hurt because there ain’t no other way.

  36. By david on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Somebody should be fired darren

  37. By bill on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    This team is a joke. I was embarrassed to be at this game. My family came to watch and paid good money for this game. No way in hell will I drop another dime into this pathetic organization.

  38. By dennis on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    A pathetic excuse for a pro football team. Being there to watch it was painfull.
    This was a complete Team loss, offense, defense (can’t tackle) and special teams. I hope the Cards don’t play again on Monday night for at least a few years.
    We may win one more game (Rams here). I just don’t understand how a team can look so bad every time they play on National TV. I guess nothing embarresses the Bidwell family……just very frustrated watching a team put on a show like that.

  39. By Jason Marcus on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    My heart goes out to the loyal fans that paid hard earned money to witness this debacle, I myself as a devoted fan on the other side of the world woke up early in the morning to watch and was crushed, this team looked worse than I have ever seen almost like we regressed back to 2010…..not good.

  40. By The everlasting Kolbstopper on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    I find a lot of the fans comments funny. It seems when Whiz and Grimm first got here they passed on Adrian Peterson and drafted Levi Brown and got RIPPED by every single one of you. From that point on it seemed they stopped drafting for need and started with their “best player available” strategy, which in all honesty works half of the time ( I mean 3 of our 8 wins last season lie solely on the shoulders of PP21 ). But here is the problem with Best Player Available… A lot of times in this league you can draft a WR or RB on rounds 3,4,5, or 6 and they can be groomed in to pro bowlers. But I swear EVERY great O lineman in this team was drafted in the first or second round. If you want a great O Line, you need to draft for need in the first 2 rounds. There are just as many whiffs I suppose as home runs with drafting o lineman in the top of the drafts but at least you are batting .500 there if you wait till the late rounds to get an o lineman, you should be looking at batting .050. Just my two cents today. Draft strategy does need changing, but fans need to get their noses out of it because last time they changed their draft strategy for you, this is the o line we are left with (not sayin they changed it specifically for fans but they did go a route that appeased to what was complained about).

  41. By The everlasting Kolbstopper on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    P.S. I meant every great lineman in the “league”… Not the “team” was drafted in the first two rounds.

  42. By Andy Kw on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    Here is one thing I don’t understand: Our team struggled with the run in the first quarter, so why continue running until the second quarter? We had opportunities to convert on 2nd and 3rd downs but we rushed the ball and gain little to no yards which we wasted a down on. The Cardinals gave LaRod Stephens-Howling the ball 8 times and he only gained 6 yards. We lost like 4-5 decisive downs that we could have converted.
    Second:Our offensive line actually improved in the game than in the past 3. This is what I didn’t like: The Cardinals were in like the San Francisco 42 or something and we got sacked 2 times in a row. Then Batiste gets a 5yd penalty and screws the team even more. Batistie should be a major concern on the offensive line because he plays like a rookie. Even Bobby Massie plays better than him. What we should do, replace Batiste with Nate Potter so we have a fresh start on the O-Line.
    Third: The Cardinals game plan is worse than last year. We can’t convert anything due to the poor calls by Mike Miller and Ken Whisenhunt. Ken Whisenhunt has done a fine job as a head coach but does a poor job on finding offensive coordinators. We should have left John McNulty at Wide Receivers coach and we should not have fired Chris Miller at Quarterbacks coach. There was a reason why Frank Reich was fired from Indianapolis. Larry Fitzgerald has done a poor job this season and we need McNulty to go back to his original job as Wide Receivers coach.
    Fourth: Our Running Backs has done a poor job so I see Tommie Robinson going. I want Russ Grimm to transition from a Offensive Line Coach to an Offensive Coordinator. He has proven for the past 3 years that he doesn’t coach well at that position. Russ Grimm should shift to Offensive Coordinator due to his experience on the offense with the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Arizona Cardinals.
    Fifth:I don’t understand how our Defense does so poorly in the first Quarter and Second Quarter but then rejuvenates and does well for the rest of the Quarters.
    We can all see the amount of offense we can produce when we play like that. Our offense is back in rhythm, we start rolling smoothly, and we can get to scoring position or what you call the opposing teams half of the field. We did that in St.Louis, we did that in Buffalo, we did that in Minnesota, and we definitely did that last night against San Francisco.
    Seventh: As much as I always wanted John Skelton to be the starter, he has continued to disappoint this year. I want Kevin Kolb back now, hoping that when he comes back healthy, our team can start winning. If Skelton can beat the Packers next week, I might reconsider my opinion but for right now, I just can’t see Skelton playing in a game without an interception.

  43. By redbirdfan on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    Dedicated season ticket holder. I love this team more than any other NFL fan loves their team. But if changes aren’t made, and fast, I won’t put another dime into this organization. S*** rolls downhill. The problems start at the top. I hope that the Bidwells make swift moves to show that this is not an acceptable product. Fans spend hard-earned money to watch this horrible product. Graves, Grimm, and Miller need to go. I wouldn’t be upset if Whiz left with them.

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