Fitz, can I have a witness?

Posted by Darren Urban on November 29, 2012 – 11:01 pm

There is little question life playing for a team in New York is different than most, with the daily crush of media attention and life in a fishbowl.  As much as athletes can enjoy that kind of thing, often they don’t.

Take Larry Fitzgerald, for instance. He’s high-profile enough to get his share of attention anyway. But he was asked whether he could imagine dealing with the New York media every day.

“It kind of comes with it when you’re on the East Coast,” Fitzgerald said. “Arizona, it’s like witness protection out here. We’ve got it pretty good in the grand scheme of things, I would say.”

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20 Responses to “Fitz, can I have a witness?”

  1. By suspence716 on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    Plus the cardinals have a long long history of being one of the worst teams in the league and the bad unpopular teams don’t get much media attention

  2. By Dynosoar on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    And we have it pretty good. Thanks to the org for drafting and keeping tallent such as Fitzgerald.

    We haven’t lost 8 yet, so I still have a glimmer of hope for the playoffs and remember, Seattle still has, by my count, three divisional games left and haven’t won one yet.

    The realist in me says we need only a couple more pieces on the O-Line and we’re Division champs. Anyone who says our QB’s can’t get it done, look at Cutler, Ponder, Alex Smith, Palmer and others this season alone. they’re playoff contenders and all have the same ratings as ours.

    Never mind the above paragraph, I just looked at the numbers. Alex Smith has a 70% completion, the best of playoff contenders (even his backup/replacement? has 64.9%). 13 of the 16 QB’s for the (as I see it based on win-loss)playoff contenders this year have over 60% complettions.

    Kolb 59.6%, Lindley 55.6% and Skelton 54.7%

    The three playoff contenders below 60%, Tannehill 59.0%, Freeman 57% and Luck 56.8%.

    We don’t need a quarterback, we need a quarterback that can deliver >60% completions.

  3. By Dynosoar on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    2008 QB Completion %

    Warner 67.1% (Only Pennington had better at 67.4%)


    Warner 66.1% (Only 7 QB’s had better, Kolb was 64.6 with 62 attempts. If you look at that, he was the logical replacement for Warner.)


    Bartell 57.1%, Anderson 51.7%, Hall 50.0% and Skelton 47.6%


    Kolb 57.7%, Skelton 54.9% (quite an improvement from the previous season) and Bartell 45.5%


    Kolb 59.6% (and that’s with getting sacked 27 times, anyone who says he’s not tough is nuts!) Lindley 55.6% and Skelton 54.7%

    All we need to be playoff contenders is >60% completions.

    The question that many have pontificated on, (sorry, just don’t see the word pontificated used to often, it was time), Is it Miller’s playcalling, the O-Line or the QB play or is it some combination thereof?

    Stats are great and they give us good indicators to measure by, but they don’t tell the whole story.

    Coach is an engineer and I trust with the time he spends studying film he knows better than I where the problem(s) lie. They’ll be fixed, I just hope over the next five games we can peak at the right time and pull off the playoffs. Given Divisional standings, we can. There are some iff’s, like winning out; but if we do a wildcard is not only possible, it’s probable. And if San Fran falls apart (I know, a big if) then Divisionals are also possible.

    We can do this, IF…

  4. By Dynosoar on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    Looking at the photos in Josh’s article about New York Magnified, Feely simply looks just plain happy.

    I hope all my friends here will have the same kind of happy day today he was having when these phottos were taken.

    Have a grand happy weekend my friends.

  5. By Dynosoar on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe I should’ve said a Feely Happy weekend.

  6. By Patrick Eagan on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    @Dynosoar, i agree with you. I think we can win with Kevin Kolb and Ken Whisenhunt. Mike Miller should not be calling the plays. We must upgrade the RB position. I love beanie wells. and there’s so much potential with Ryan Williams. However, they are both always hurt. We must run the ball better. Todd Heap needs to go. He’s always hurt, plus Housler is playing better anyway. The Defense has to learn how to stop the RUN. It’s crucial. Because teams that are playing us now are just running it down our throats and then killing us with the play action. I do think this season is over. I hope we honestly keep losing to get a better draft pick at this point. Ken Whisenhunt is one of the best coaches in the league, He’s done so much for the Cardinals organization. We owe him the last year of his contract, because if it were for all these injuries, the cardinals could be 7-4 right now, instead of 4-7. My proof is at the beginning of the year we where able to win games because we had wells, and williams before they got injured. We were able to win with a terrible offensive line with Kevin Kolb. Now that the offensive line is playing better, I believe Kolb could be making a lot of plays for us.

  7. By Kevin S on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    Patrick Eagan —

    I agree. While I think the team doesn’t have as much talent as some people do, we’ve had more than our share of injuries to key players, at least on the offensive side. I don’t think we’re that far away (although keep in mind when saying we could be 7-4 instead of 4-7, that it’s probably equally true that we could easily be 2-9 or even 1-10… we lose to the Patriots if Gostkowski makes that FG; we lose to SEA if Wilson finds a receiver on any of the last 3 passes from the 4 yard line; we lose to MIA if we don’t survive 2 fourth downs on the last drive, including of course the final TD to Roberts on 4th and 10). This team’s cup of luck runneth over both last year (4 OT wins) and early this year — and now it’s dry.

    This season is pretty good evidence of how much good quarterbacking can turn around a team. The Colts are 7-4 after winning 2 games. Washington has equalled last year’s win total (and has already scored more points this year in 11 games than all of last year). Miami will probably exceed last year’s win total. Seattle is currently in a tie for the last playoff spot.

  8. By Justin on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    This is considered an article?

  9. By john the draft guy on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    The more things change, the more they stay the same. Since QB is constantly being the number 1 topic, here is my take on things

    In 2004, the cards drafted Larry Fitzgerald to go with Bryant Johnson and Anquan Boldin. That year, the cards started 3 different QBs, lead by Josh McCown.

    In 2005, the cards signed a washed up QB named Kurt Warner. No one really thought he had much left and they entered the 2005 draft with awesome Wrs but viewed the 2005 draft as no franchise QBs. With their first round pick, they took the best player available in Antrel Rolle, passing on Aaron Rodgers.

    Warner struggled his first 3 games and then got hurt. McCown took over. Warner came back and played well but was injured again.

    In 2006, Denny Green finally thought, I missed on Rodgers, time to draft a QB. He choose Matt Leinart. Matt had a OK year, but Green was fired at the end of the year.

    Fast forward to 2010. The cards use 3 different QBs. They trade for a QB in Kolb in 2011 who suffers through injuries. In 2012, we pass on an opportunity to trade up to land Tannehill (who I loved because he reminds me of Rodgers) and instead drafted best available player in WR Mike Floyd and we end up playing 3 QBs.

    2013, we have 3 good wrs and a budding star at TE. We just played 3 QBs in 2012 and Whiz will enter the 2013 year as a contract year. Does Whiz draft a QB, take his lumps and survive to see 2014? Or stick with Kolb, sgn an Alex Smith or go with Lindley and let the chips fly? Interesting to see how this plays out.

    Moral of the story, draft your QB early in you contract, take your lumps and then get the team in the right direction and win going into your contract year and name your salary.

  10. By john the draft guy on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    Kevin S

    Agree completely. Good comments

  11. By david on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    why didnt graves or whiz look at RB ryan turein?

    he was my neighbor in chandler and looking for a job but i think the gaints pick him up..

    he is good enough for the superbowl champs but not az cards. LOL!!

    could have drove his ten speed to tempe for a try out, were that close to the facility…

  12. By clssylssy on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    Agree that we have to beef up our running game because a QB just can’t throw the ball all the time without getting tired and making errors…even Drew Brees was intercepted more than once because the Saints abandoned their running game and they have the best RBs in the league. If anybody thinks the QB is calling his own plays, they’re nuts. Terry Bradshaw called his own plays but that’s just not done these days and especially with our QBs…we don’t have a TB, Kolb at his absolute best doesn’t hold a candle. Mike Miller seems to be a figure head that was better at being a QB coach. I’m still not blaming coach Whisenhunt entirely for the dismal season we’re having. Other teams are replacing players who are out for the season and pursue players waived by other teams…the Cards don’t seem to be doing ANYTHING or they’re not quick enough to act…kinda like the team’s been, sluggish to respond.
    Fans complain all the time about various players being hurt like Beanie, Ryan Williams, Early Doucet and I would guess that should hold true for the QB; a team needs a durable QB. So far of Kevin Kolbs contract, how many games has he actually played and how many missed? It would seem that if we were to see any future with a QB we should be able to count on his being available to actually play and if he has had previous injury and time away from the season that should be considered down the road?

  13. By Dynosoar on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply


    Yes. Yes it is.


    I liked your comments. It took my QB statistics to another level. Thanks (not sure if you intended that, but you reached a higher level. Thanks.)

    Patrick and Kevin,

    Spot on. Injuries have decimated us and we’ll never know where we’d be without them. We also lost Docket and currently Campbell for a few games.

    Although, lucky against Seattle, I just think we outplayed them, especially at the end with their fourth timeout and questionable PI call. The NE FG miss, we were smiled on there.

  14. By Mark in Chandler on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    Elite QBs are hard to find. Most teams make thier average QBs better by the talent around them, includig the run game. With a handful of games ahead and the playoffs looking very doubtful, threre are some things we ought to be building on and looking at.

    1-QB The draft does not have any great QBs in it. I am not sure any in the draft are notably better than Lindley. Developing a QB in a system takes time. If Lindley has potential (and I think he does) then he needs to finish off this year behind center and take his lumps. Fans should look to see if he improves. Stick with Lindley.

    2-OL Potter and Massie have notably improved and Sneider has looks better as the year has progressed. I like Joekel but would not feel pressure to draft an OT in the draft if Joekel is not there. Potter, Massie and Brown should be solid going forward. In fact, Brown may have lost is starting job.

    3-RB We need a grinder in the fold. As has been noted, a better run game (and this speaks also to the OL and coaches) will drastically improve QB play. Draft is possible in the later rounds but I would look and see what is available in FA at a decent price. RBs are relatively cheep to find.

    4-SS Wilson is done as a starter. His replacement needs to be found in the draft. I would look to the 2nd day for a Safety. Need to watch Sander and Johnson to see if they should be brought back next year for depth.

    5-MIKE Lenon could be resigned for a year or two. Bradley seems to be playing his last year in AZ. I might look at Manti TE’O but I think I would rather look for a MIKE the beginning of the 3rd day. MIKES (in a 3-4) do not stay on the field enough snaps to spend a high pick on them unless they are very good.

    6-DL We need depth and beef on the DL. I would look to the draft but I also want to see what Williams and Carter can do.

    7-CB Do we bring back Toler to start opposite of Peterson? Do they draft a CB the 1st day? (not sure we would find anything better than Toler on the 2nd day)What about Flemming? I want to watch Toler and see if he becomes a solid starter these last 5 games.

    8-OLB Cards need a OLB that can generate a pass rush with just a 4 man rush. Might see them take one the 1st day. They won’t find one in FA just like they won’t find a good LT or elite QB in FA.

  15. By Kevin S on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    John the draft guy,

    I know you were recommending Tannehill… I haven’t seen any of his games other than the one vs. AZ where he threw to Hartline for about 1000 yards, and some of the Thursday night game two weeks ago, but holy cow, he sure has been feast or famine this year, looking at his stats. Excluding the Jets game where he left early, he’s got 4 games with a passer rating of 50.2 or under (all losses, 9 INT and 1 TD in those games) and 6 games 86.5 or above (including two losses — the one to AZ and a nailbiter vs. the Colts — and 4 wins; 6 TD’s and 3 INT in those 6 games). Nothing in the middle. Have you seen any of his games? Just wondering how he’s looked, and if the teams he’s played badly had any particular defensive game plan that worked. Two of the four bad games came in the first 3 games of the season, so I assume that just might be typical rookie stuff (his first game looks about like Lindley’s first start, extrapolated to more pass attempts), although the other two are in the past 3 weeks.

  16. By Kevin S on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    Dynosoar —

    Glad to see that even a 7-game losing streak has not dampened your enthusiasm.

  17. By Scott H on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    John the draft guy –

    OMG, did we REALLY draft Antrel Rolle with Aaron Rogers available??? I think I’m going to be sick…

    Just when I thought I couldn’t feel any worse…

  18. By cardsalltheway on Nov 30, 2012 | Reply

    Patrick Eagan,
    “I Love Beanie Wells”

    That’s the problem, there’s too much “love” with coaches and players and LOVING by the AZ media ~ wouldn’t want to finish the sentence…”If the Cardinals lose in New York then…”

    Patrick Eagan,
    Stop thinking too much, the first step and most important is to get rid of Ken W. & Co. After that and the season we can reflect on player personnel. Until then, it’s a waste of time and we’ll continue to be doomed.

  19. By john the draft guy on Dec 1, 2012 | Reply

    Kevin S,
    I have NFL Sunday Ticket so I have watched a lot of parts of his games. (if that makes sense)
    Tannehill has looked great at times and a rookie at times. To be honest, he really doesn’t have much to throw to. Hartline is a #2 wr. Bess is a slot wr. They don’t have a number one. Their TE has been disappointing, and for a while there, Bush was in the dog house.
    Also, Tannehill is in his 3rd year as a QB, playing wr his first 2 years in college, so he sometimes forces throws. But the guy was studying neuro surgery, so he is very smart and athletic (played wr). He has a big arm.

    Most thought he would sit and learn for a couple years but he did so well in preseason, he earned the starting job.

    Mark in Chandler;
    Yes there is no RG3 or Luck in this draft, but Rodgers dropped to the 20’s because he wasnt a franchise guy. Wilson fell to the 3rd cuz he wasnt a franchise guy, Brees was a second, because he wasn’t a franchise guy. I could go on. I think believe your eyes and not these draft boards. I think there are at least 2 -4 guys who could end up being franchise guys,

    Scott H
    Yep, Rolle over Rodgers. Rolle had PP kind of potential and Rodgers was picked apart for 2 years to the point GMs talked themselves out of picking him.
    I think Landry Jones is a guy like that. He has had such a great career (5th all time most yards in college) and had a first round grade at one time, but because he has started for so long, draft gurus have picked him apart and say he is not a franchise guy.

  20. By Eazy E on Dec 5, 2012 | Reply

    The guy really deserves better.

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