The Kevin Kolb question

Posted by Darren Urban on December 31, 2012 – 5:11 pm

Quarterback will be one of the central issues around the new coach and general manager of the Cardinals. That’s obvious. It was obvious to former coach Ken Whisenhunt, who mentioned over and over the need for more consistent quarterback play, and for team president Michael Bidwill, who noted during his press conference one of the requirements for his new decision-makers will be about “not just finding but also developing quarterbacks.”

Which takes us to the injured Kevin Kolb. In two seasons, Kolb has been hurt more than healthy. When he played this year, the Cardinals were finding ways to win. And Bidwill gave an important quote about the QB — who still figures to have to restructure his contract (he is due a total of $11 million in 2013) to return: “I’m not ready to give up on Kevin Kolb yet.”

Bidwill acknowledged the Cards “probably” haven’t gotten value yet on the Kolb trade, which included the hefty contract. “That’s one of the questions we will really focus on with the coaching staff candidates,” Bidwill said. “How do we see about Kevin and his performance and how we can turn him into the quarterback of the future here for the Cardinals and make that decision, if he is the right guy?”

Kolb has said he wants to return. He has been less specific about restructuring his deal, saying he hoped it wouldn’t come to that. Kolb did respond via text message about Monday’s coaching change.

“It’s obviously an emotional time for everyone right now,” Kolb said. “It’s never one man’s fault. We are all responsible for the underachievement this season.

“With that being said, I’m excited about the new opportunity with whomever is chose and have great confidence in the ones making that decision.”


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72 Responses to “The Kevin Kolb question”

  1. By John S on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    Please no on Kolb. He will just get some injury again like this year and last year and milk it and we will be stuck “developing” backups again.

    Please not Andy Reid. Please please no. Look at how bad he was doing in Philadelphia and get fired WHY would they even consider him. I hope its someone with a good offensive mind such as McCoy.

  2. By carlo milan italy on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    i think every coach will came here cant count too much on kolb,more games inactive then in the field..qb is a need..a new coach nedd his new qb.

  3. By fightingbird on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    what about Alex Smith being a possible QB for the cards.I heard hes in his last season of a contract.Hes probably tired of being pushed away at SF.

  4. By Brett n Co. on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Alex Smith would put us in the same boat that we are in, so please everyone stop bringing that up!

  5. By Randy on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Other than Alex Smith has become one heck of a QB. Do you forget where he was last year? Making it to the championship game. He has only gotten better. All he needs is someone to believe in him. He is the best available option. And a good one.

  6. By Cardsgirl on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    I credit Kevin Kolb for not allowing his confidence to be eroded by Coach Whiz’ competition policy. I believe that is what happened to John Skelton, causing his regression from last year. Overall, I agree with the policy, but you pay QBs too much and they are supposed to lead the team: so to erode their authority with the team by making them all compete to be the starter is counterproductive.

    On the other hand, I don’t know how in good conscience he would not restructure his contract since it is obvious he did not produce by missing so many games in 2 years. I will give him last year because he was in a new system without a full training camp, but he was doing well, despite all the sacks, before he got injured. Even with restructuring, he will still make great money and with incentives in the contract could come close to what he gave up, if he produces next year.

    I continue to be a Coach Whiz supporter and hope he gets another opportunity this year, with a team that has a QB who needs a bit of fine-tuning. That will show that it takes a combination of coaches coaching and players playing to win games. I’m afraid in AZ this year, the coaching was there, but the offensive players let him down.

  7. By Jzoully on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    Change is upon us. Possible that a lot of gentleman are out the door as we speak. Beanie Wells and Kevin Kolb have been injury-prone, so goodbye. I thought that if we kept Whiz that we would keep Adrian Wilson, but with the firings I see A-dub out the door also. The players who have to be gone are the wildly inconsistent John Skelton, Stewart Bradley, and Levi Brown. Re-upping a contract would be debatable but I’ll tell you who we shouldn’t resign, D’Anthony Batiste, Early Doucet, and Greg Toler. Now some positives I would say that I love Paris Lenon and Kerry Rhodes so give those guys a new contract. Signing of a new coach I would say the direction should be Kyle Shanahan, and GM should be Nick Caserio from New England Patriots (Director of Player Personnel).

  8. By Alfred on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb actually looked good this year in the first 4 games before he was clobbered by the Rams

  9. By jeffgollin on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    I hope Kolb can be salvaged, but to be frank, I think Hoyer’s the best of the four QB’s on our roster.

  10. By sqhead on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    If you are going to keep Kolb you better bring in a coach that runs a westcoast style offense. That’s what he played in in college and Philly. He is good at it. Trying to fit a system to players that can’t run it was Whiz’s downfall. It is a lot easier to change coaching staffs than it is to change whole rosters. If Whiz wasn’t so stubborn he might still have his job.

  11. By BIG RED on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    Please don’t bring back glass body kolb, back! I just hope our next coach knows what he has in kolb (nothing). Spending all that money for someone that averages five games a season, com’on man. Bidwell you did fine on the coaching staff, now just don’t blow it with keeping kolb. Skelton, Hoyer would be the right way to go and who ever you would draft. Happy New Year to all you wonderful fans!

  12. By Furious Styles on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    If Andy Reid is hired, it would speak to the belief that Kevin Kolb can be a quality quarterback in the NFL. He looked his best in the West Coast system Reid ran. We have the skill position players to be effective. I hope we draft a LT with our first round pick and possibly a quarterback with our second round pick. We need to replenish the talent in the offensive line, and draft a quarterback high to develop. I predict that Reid will be hired, Horton will stay on as defensive coordinator (a huge win for AZ) and hire Keim as the new GM. I also have a gut feeling that if coach Whis goes to San Diego, he will have a lot of success because he will get Philip Rivers back on track.

  13. By In fitz we trust on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    Makes perfect sense to interview Andy Reid, he was the one who drafted Kevin kolb. Connect the dots.

  14. By tyman on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    Treat Kolb as a good backup.
    No way the team can give him a huge deal. He took a ton of sacks this year. That could be based on the play of the O-line the play-calling or the biggest problem Kolbs control and recognition of the defence. Its hard to go into training camp with Kolb starter.

    Whis always did one thing right and that is he made guys earn their spot on the team and I’d hope that remains the cardinals way of coaching. And for all cards fans thanks to Whis and Graves for doing a great job over the years. We cards fans lost two great leaders of men. Its going to be hard shoes to fill!

  15. By NJAzCardsFan on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    No matter who is selected to coach for the Cards, an offensive line who can block is paramount at this time. Without that it really doesn’t matter who will be the QB.

    I noticed Michael B. skipped the name of Todd Haley returning as a possible coach during the press conference. Should we read anything into that???

    Darren– any idea who Michael B. would consult with when making a house cleaning of this magnitude??? Whiz and company had 3 yrs to find a decent QB…..Since it didn’t happen there should be no question as to why they all are gone now. Though a blind man could see this coming, I am somewhat impressed by the turn of the events. The HC job should go to Any Ried with Ray H being DC/Asst HC.

  16. By Chuck 1 on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    My suggestion for Michael Bidwill,

    Interview Steve Keim for the GM job.
    Ask him the following questions:
    • What would you have done differently than Rod Graves over the last few years?
    • If I select you as the next GM, what will be your top priority?
    • Which coach will you pursue as your top target for HC?
    • Why?

    If he says, he’d pursue Andy Reid, Lovie Smith, or any other retreads, end the interview.

  17. By Bay Area Bad Boy on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb is a good QB in the right system and with an O-line that can protect him. We still need speed. Somone that can stretch the field. I can see Kolb having a more productive season with the right personnel. That offense that Whiz was running was horrible. No one could do well in that offense. Hopefully he restructures and comes back. If not, then cut him and lets move on. I am certainly happy there will be a new beginning next year.

  18. By Corgon on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    Kolb here or there, Whiz out, Keim something…happy new year Darren! Thanks for the covering! This is the best site ever!

  19. By Corgon on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    I hope this is a beggining of a new era……an era of winning! Go Cards!!!!!

    I hope Whiz can fined a job elswhere. He is a real good COACH. He had a some soar decision in AZ, but he tried to build a TEAM here, and that’s something.
    That’s something we have to remember!

  20. By Chuck 1 on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    WTH is Michael thinking???
    Andy Reid is NOT the answer.
    Mark my words. The Cards will not make the playoffs with Reid.
    What did he do in Philly?
    If Michael is chasing him because he believes that Reid will be able to improve Kolb, that is faulty thinking. Is Reid going to erect a barrier around Kolb to keep him from being injured?
    What is wrong with Bruce Arians or Lovie Smith? All Arians did was take the Colts to the playoffs and Smith won 10 games for the Bears this season.
    Of course, Michael can make the decision on who to hire for the HC, but he should allow the person who he hires to be the GM to make a recommendation to him, not hire a HC before he selects the GM. We saw what happened when the Bears hired a GM before the 2012 season and now that GM wants his own HC, so “so long, Lovie. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.”

  21. By lurker on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Did you start watching football 3 years ago? Reid had 4 straight nfc championship appearances a superbowl appearance and than another nfc championship appearance. 8 seasons out of 14 with ten wins or more. That’s what Reid did.

  22. By sarah on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    Four games is not a season and we have no idea how he would have been down the stretch. I would move cautiously with Kolb, as the Who sang, ” we won’t be fooled again ” !

  23. By D.Robles on Dec 31, 2012 | Reply

    Can Kolb stay Healthy? I know we need to work on the offensive line. Even when we do, will Kolb be able to make the right decisions?I like Kolb sometimes, But you never know who your going to get. The Kolb who plays good or the Kolb who plays like a deer in the headlights.

  24. By Chris B on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Chuck 1 & Anyone knocking Reid,
    Andy Reid has been one of the most successful head coaches in the past 2 decades. Aside from the past 2 years, he has had winning seasons. Please stop talking like you know something. Look at his resume instead of spouting off crap that makes you look dumb.

    Coaches are as successful as their QBs. Belichick was considered a bad coach in Cleveland. He ends up in NE and Tom Brady falls in his lap and suddenly he is the greatest coach ever?

    McCoy is a great OC? Funny how having Peyton Manning throwing the ball around makes the OC look like a genius. Not saying he would be a bad coach, but having PM helps A LOT. The one positive he has going for him is he ran the offense with Tebow and now with Manning. Talking about opposite ends of the spectrum. When Josh McDaniels is in St L as OC he isn’t great and is fired. He goes back to NE with the aforementioned Tom Brady and suddenly he’s a hot name again? Bruce Arians- hey, great job filling in with the HC out with cancer. I am a part of team #chuckstrong and am pulling for them in the postseason, but you have Andrew Luck. You have the emotional lift from the hardships with the HC. Not saying Arians would be bad, just stating facts.

    The “Kolb Question” is a good one. My one thought is that you can’t have Andy Reid and Ray Horton. There is the biggest dilemma for me.

  25. By Victor on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    I’m a supporter of Horton, the man made this D one of the best in the NFL. With that said. Here is a scenario. Michael Bidwell hires McCoy, but also manages to keep Horton as the DC. Could McCoy get the new GM to trade for Brock Osweiler… We do need a QB, and he knows his system. The Cards then use their 4 highest picks to improve the O-Line…..The Cards go to camp with better potential at the online and..Kolb, Osweiler, and Hoyer for the qb competition….Osweiler didn’t see the field much this year and was a 2nd rd pick…shouldn’t be too expensive to have all 3 of these guys on the roster for camp……wishin on New Years!!

  26. By sezme on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    If the past holds true, I’m afraid the Bidwells don’t bode well for the Cards’ future. They’re just too cheap! Like the Rams owners who were too cheap to keep Kurt Warner on the team long enough for his thumb to heal and take them back to another SB. No, instead they cut him and his hefty contract AND cut loose their best dbs and their pending bigger contracts, and swiftly sank to the bottom of the league!
    To wit, had the Bidwells bid well enough, Peyton would be leading us into the playoffs with a 12 and 4 season, not 4 and 12. Also, I expect they’ll, likewise, cut loose a few of Horton’s higher calibre defenders who will be expecting, quite deservedly,
    bigger contracts.
    The Bidwells will kid well about spending big bucks while deftly bringing in, for a pitance, an edge-less Andy Reid, whose talented Eagles were touted (for the last two years!) to be the”Dreamteam” and SB bound, but who, under Reid’s disheartened skills couldn’t even break even.
    But I can dream! To wit, the Bidwells take the bit well in their mouths, Get Religion, Arizona Card Red Football Religion! They give Gruden free rein (reign!), Fudin’ Gruden brings in his secret weapon who is the best QB never drafted, who was 50 and 3 in college (the record!), who beat the Niners’ Colin Kaepernick 2 out of 3 times and out-stat-ed him all 3 times, whose uncanny field savvy approaches …I’ll say it! …Genius. So Rude Gruden steals the Lions 3rd string rookie QB, Kellen Moore, the Nonpareil of Pocket Passers! The Grudenator drafts some O-liners who can run-blok and free-agencies a good RB, and along with Horton’s Hellians we all mosie into the dreamfields of postseason football…….

  27. By Pat on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Offer Chris Peterson at Boise St whatever he wants to be HC then do the same for Bill Polian as GM. Hiring retreads is a step back. Get a young creative HC who will not do things just because everyone in the NFL does them.

  28. By Cert 33 on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Kevin Kolb is the stating Quarterback of the Arizona Cardinals. No QB in the NFL could stand up to the weekly beat-down that he suffered through due to our terrible o-line and lack of a credible running game. Yet he still was productive. Kevin Kolb is a way better QB than Alex Smith and Kevin’s toughness should not be questioned, his ribs were torn from his sternum! They should make the offensive linemen, tight ends, and blocking backs pick up his medical tab and rehab costs. He should not have to renegotiate his contract either, he more than earned every penny of it playing behind that o-line that Whiz, Miller, Grimm, and Graves put together

  29. By Dave Chaney on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    I recently read an article on AZ Central about what the Cards have to offer to a new head coach. The obvious (QB,RB,OL and OStaff) does not need to be discussed. Any potential head coach is well aware of those shortcomings. So what DO we have? A very good defense with few holes to fill, an outstanding receiver corps, a very good special team, good kicking game, very nice stadium, loyal fan base (as long as we win) and lastly (and this is still a pretty large question mark) an owner in MIchael Bidwill who wants to win. Most likely the only way to fill the first two positions is via free agency. We can draft a few good young lineman and the staff will be filled by the new head coach. All said, there is a distinct possibility that we could recover quickly enough to get into the playoffs next season or for sure the following. That’s it…Happy New Year to all the Big Red faithful who have to be the most patient fans in the world.

  30. By KKFan on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    I listened to Mike Bidwells press conference yesterday and I was surprised but pleased to hear him make the comment that “he hadn’t given up on Kolb yet.” Now to read both here and on the Eagles MB that Andy is the first to come in to interview for the HC job makes sense.In that he was the one who drafted Kolb.

    Andy would be the right coach if Kolb is to be the QB. I think if Kolb knows that Andy will be the coach, he will gladly renegociate his current contact to stay.

    For those who believe you haven’t gotten your moneys worth out of Kolb. Let me assure you, many Eagle fans feel the same toward DRC. He didn’t live up to the expectations ( or hype) that we were let to believe we were getting in him either. Or for the $$ we inherited with his contract. So it looks like neither team got what they expected or hoped they were getting in either player. IF Andy turns out to be the HC of choise you will finally get your money’s worth out of Kolb. He had Kolb for 4 seaons. He knows how far his development was when he left the organization.

    One thing I can tell you that the O Line will be a PRIORITY with Andy. He is a firm believer that the building of a winning team begins with the two lines…up fornt on both sides of the ball. With a solid O line Kolb nor any of the other QB’s they decide to keep would be running for their lives like they’ve been doing.

    With Ray Horton as the DC he will pretty much have a Jim Johnson kind of guy.
    Andy is a good coach. He knows how to treat people.
    He took the Eagles who were 3-10 when he was hired to the post season two years later. And he was a rookie HC with no prior OC or HC’ing experience. You guys are getting a seasoned and much more coach savvy man in Reid. Again, if he turns out to be who the Bidwells go with. I wish Andy luck, I was really upset to see him be let go yesterday.

  31. By KKFan on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Correction: That should have said a 3-13 team and turned it into a post season team two seasons later.

  32. By KKFan on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    @ Chuck1, What has Andy Reid done in Philly.

    He came to the Eagles in19 99 to a 3-13 team . In 2001 he had us in our first play off as the wild cart. We went to the play offs every season through 2004 our super bowl year…and made the play offf several more times.

    Took them to 9 play offs in 14 yrs. 5 of which were to the NFC Championship game and to a SB. Given that he had no prior OC or HC’ing experience before comming to the Eagles I think that speaks volumes of what the man accomplished.

    Only these last two seasons has the team gone down hill. But what many don’t factor into that. Is that for all those seasons where we were in the play offs. We had very low slots in those drafts. You’re not getting the best players when you are picking in the late 20’s, eventually the lesser talented players catches up with a team.

    So than you start looking in other areas for seasoned vets, who can help fill the void or lack of talent . Who really don’t know your system or have any real emotional connection to the organization other than a pay check.

    I wish Andy had not brought in some of the F/A’s that he did. Or some of the later coaches either. But thats all water under the bridge now as they say. But again I say if he is the coach of choice you won’t be saying the same thing in another year.

  33. By Bob Boise on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Recruit Chip Kelly. He is an offensive genius. He comes up with terrific QBs. He has more of an NFL mentality, rather than the college rah, rah. He might just like Arizona after spending many winters in the cold, rainy NW>

  34. By Bill L on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    With a GOOD coach, a GOOD gm , GOOD assistants, GOOD philosophy….and a WILL by ownership to put out a WINNER……Kolb has NEVER had that chance. It will probably take 3 years to build a GOOD O-Line. Start with the draft……2 O Tackles with 1 and 2……hopefully an NFL C at 3…..then best player available at 4,5, 6, 7. Give Kolb 3 years to develop with a semblance of an O-Line and a decent running game. Next year or the year after or the one after that is enough time to look for a new QB. But, AZ should never put a QB behind a crappy O-line Again…… to WHIZ and his Staff…….GOOD RIDENCE!!!!

  35. By Andy Kw on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    This is what this team should do:
    -Hire Andy Reid or Lovie Smith as head coach but do not even think about approaching McCoy of the Denver Broncos.
    -Hire Cam Cameron as our Offensive Coordinator.
    -Hire Pat Shurmur as our Quarterbacks Coach
    -For the other Assistant Coaching vacancies, since their are still more firings, we will wait and see. (You better not hire Juan Castillo as OL Coach, we do not need him, even Russ Grimm is and always will be better than him at coaching)

  36. By Andy Kw on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    I’m still a huge fan of Whisenhunt, best coach that has ever been hired by the Arizona Cardinals. Brought the team to (1) 10-6 season, (1) 9-7 season, (2) 8-8 seasons, and (2) 5-11 seasons.

  37. By truths4all on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Hoyer might really be a diamond in the rough, but you must wonder IF he has any real upside or talent, WHY did Belichick let him go?

    As for Kolb, once your body become injury prone, your chances of getting injured again goes way up, so until Kolb can prove he is durable, you must make that a major part of your evaluation. Of course a change to the West Coast Offense would maximize Kolb’s skillset instead of what Whisenhut tried to do which was forcing Kolb to play a timing offense system.

    As for Skelton, he continually regressed under Whisenhut. It appears that the Cards ownership saw that as well since they want to have the new head coach evaluate Skelton and Lindley and try to develop them. Skelton has potential as he proved in college when he improved his level of play in each of his 3 college seasons with his senior year being his best with 64% completion average and a college career average of 62%. Skelton also got some All-American buzz and consideration even though he played in a minor conference (Pioneer League). That and his work at the Combine is why he showed up on the Cards draft board. Who knows if these guys can regain their confidence after almost being ruined by Whiz (note: Leinart still has not recovered from Whiz’s ‘magic’, Max Hall turned to coaching, St Pierre and Bartel are no longer considered viable choices for emergency back-up QBs, and Warner had the experience and the football cred to simply ignored Whisenhut’s attempts to screw with him); such was the Coaching Touch of Death under Whisenhut.

    But if the Cards really want a QB with a similar skillset like they had in Warner, then they need to purchase ownership interest in some Arena football teams and farm out Hoyer, Skelton, Kolb, and Lindely to those teams to learn the quick defensive read and quick pass timing attacks found there. That training and game experience is what elevated Warner’s football skillset which he next fine-tuned in his NFL Europe years. But then, this is too drastic and too much out of the box moves for any NFL team, much less the Cards to develop their QBs.

  38. By canadian redbird on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Re: Assistent Coaches

    The presser did not mention anything about Grimm X 2, Miller etc; however there are reports that they to have been let go. Could you clarify what the situation is with Whiz’s support staff.

    It is time for FRESH IDEAS, much like the model used in San Fran & Seattle . Andy Reid in my opinion is much like the guy we just cut ties with and in no way assures us that Kolb will be the all star that Andy claimed he traded away from Philly. Reid fleeced us in that deal, because we were in a position of weakness with other suitors out there for Kolb. Keep in mind that we also let go of our 2nd round draft pick, which could have been used to solidify our O LIne.

    I truly think that Horton is not the answer as a Head Coach, even though his defence showed well, but by no means spectacular. There are far better candidates out there that can energize the entire team.

    I applaud what Bidwell did yesterday. It was the right thing to do; I do appreciate that is also hard to part ways with friendships, however this is a result driven business. Go Cards!!!!!

    Thanks for getting back to us on the Assistant coaches.

  39. By Darren Urban on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Canadian —

    RE: Assistants

    It’s all in the story on the home page. You’ve got to read what’s out there. I promise the info is there.

  40. By Codyk928 on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Cards could get any qb but until they bring up some kind of an offensive line either from the draft or free agency, they’re never going to go anywhere. But that’s a problem that needs to be figured out by a new coach such as McCoy or Lovie Smith, NOT Andy Reid. Get a greater minded QB coach that will then be able to decide on the proper fit in the QB position after that. You can’t get a QB that is only comfortable in the pocket, we need a mobile QB which is why I’m not sure that QB’s like Romo or Sanchez would be a great fit. Vick is a mobile QB but let’s face it that’s pretty much all he has. He had a huge attack in wide receivers in Philadelphia over the years but he was still not able to connect with most of them. The best fits in Arizona would probably be either Alex Smith or Colin Kaepernick if either one is released by San Francisco this off season, or Tim Tebow if he doesn’t follow through with Jacksonville.

  41. By BIG RED on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    I was wondering maybe kolb, wouldn’t want Reid since his the one that got rid of him in Phillie.

  42. By Flood on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Have to love all the fans who ran Whiz out of town. Hope it works out but hate starting over. Think they actually had good drafts because all the players we talk about being good on this team were drafted by them (except Fitz, Dock, and AW but Graves was on staff). Washington, PP, Acho, Schofield, Seindlein, Massie & Potter (who really stepped up the 2nd half of the year). Plain and simple, you miss at QB (I haven’t quit on Kolb either) you get fired. Just wish the fans weren’t so ecstatic in their release. Wish people would go to your job and chanting for you to be fire despite working your butt off and things just not getting done well.

    Also, spare me the no retreads request. What do Coughlin, Belicheck, Shula, and Gruden have in common? Yeah, they’re retreads! Also, they all have rings from stop 2! Not saying a retread will work out but sometimes a change of scenary is what’s needed. Whatever Mike thinks is best, I’ll support until the wheels fall off.

    Anyways, enough of the soap box. Either way, my season tickets were getting renewed because I’m not a Cardinal Superbowl Fan (peace out to you hanger-ons). Bleeding Cardinal Red to the end.

  43. By Julius on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Kola in the Andy Reid offense would be worth considering.

  44. By Egok on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Kolb has to realize a few things: (1) he hasn’t earned the huge contract Cards signed him to (2) he will not play for this team next year at his current contracted rate and (3) if they cut him he will not have a better chance at more money or a starting gig with an all pro WR anywhere else.

  45. By Ross on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    What ever they do, I just hope they don’t make a mistake by drafting Matt Barkley…….

  46. By Mike K on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    When was it that Kolb has a good game? I dont recall a single game where I wast left think YAH, THATS A QB!! Kolb is skittish and not and NFL qb. He has no concept of when to step up when to role. 3 man rushes and he was going down like Ellen.

  47. By sarah on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    This team reminds me of Tampa Bay when they fired Jon Gruden ( which was stupid given his record). It took years to rebuild and one coach and several QB’s. This will not be a one or two year process. Kevin Kolb had a good streak in Sept but was losing in Oct. It is a high risk betting the farm on him, better to develop a high draft pick and keep a seriously restructured Kolb. Skelton never got the easy home game upon his return and was playing with line and running game issues. For whatever reason the line started out well, receded big time in Oct and stabilized. Running game never shined hence our passing game was predictable.

  48. By KDubADub1324 on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply


    Quit trying to downplay Kolb’s success this year. Skelton is garbage, face it and move on. Kolb had no run game AND got worse protection than Skelton and the others. The OL play “progressed” as the year went on, when Kolb was out. Kolb was the best thing to happen to this offense year, and nobody can argue against that. Everyone was all over Skelton’s jock last year because he “won” games, but there’s still some that refuse to give Kolb his for this year. Cards won ONE game without Kolb this year, which was won by the defense (Lindley didn’t do it). So that proves what Kolb’s value was to them this year. He’s been the best QB on this team since Warner and has played the best in Whiz’s system, which was not catered to his strengths. Fact is, Kolb can play. He may not be elite status like everyone wants, but he’s solid. Pairing him with Reid will make him better. Reid knows him better than anyone and Kolb is made for his system. BUT AGAIN, injuries are his problem, not play. It does no good for him to be the guy if he can’t stay on the field. I like Kolb, but I’m also cynical about him and I wouldn’t be heartbroken if they didn’t keep him. HOWEVER, I still feel we haven’t seen all of what were going to get from him and it sucks not knowing. Eventually the team will have to move on, but I don’t think its now.

  49. By Why? on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    With places reporting Reid as “95% certain” as the new head coach, I keep wondering why we are trying to build a team around a QB in Kolb. If he was Peyton Manning, OK. But if anything he has proven he is not a consistent starter. And Andy Reid last year had incredible talent to use. If he cannot work with that how is he going to do that now with the Cards?Give Horton or Lovie Smith a shot. And try and consider Matt Flynn or Alex Smith

  50. By Jerry on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    Don’t forget Reid is the one that Kolb lost his starting position in Philly so that decision would be in him if he wants to keep Kolb which I doubt he will. I know everyone thought Kolb was doing well but I noticed each game he progressively got worse. Kolb won’t renegotiate his contract for the price the Bidwells will offer so I would count him out. We will make trades for a bettter draft for a qb now that Whiz is gone. Whiz didn’t like to start rookies so this may be an advantage for us.

  51. By Terry E on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    I hope keeping Kolb isn’t our best option. It comes down to choices. If we can draft one of the top 3 QB’s then we might have a better option. I believe Skelton should be gone. I believe Hoyer looked very good for the limited time he had to prepare and should be in the mix for at least the number two spot. LIndley is raw and may develop but if there is a spot depends upon if Kolb stays. I personally think we would be better off with a new one and Hoyer as our backup and Lindley number 3.

  52. By Eric on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    OK Kevin Kolb is the best quarter back the cardinals have right now. With Kevin Kolb the Cardinals went 4-0 ,but due to injury he could not continue to help win games. None of the other quarterbacks stepped up when needed. Also, the O-line needs improvement. The backs need to step up. With the coaching situation i think having Lovie Smith should be head coach to work with the defense and Norv Turner for Offensive coordinator.

  53. By Scharf on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    @MIke K,

    The fact that you’re saying three man rushes were enough to take down Kolb speaks volumes about our poor offensive line play more than it highlights the would be quarterbacking problems. When there is a three man rush, a five man offensive line should be able to stop that, but they didn’t. They were beat. Do you honestly believe the Quarterback also holds the ability to block and throw? This also goes to show how much you know about the sport of football.

  54. By Terry E on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply

    I don’t think your primary logic can be to bring Andy Reid here because Kolb is here. It really shouldn’t even be considered as your rationale to hire you next head coach. It is because he is a proven winner and the question is will he bring that or not? Once his is pegged as the guy then you can begin to evaluate the Kolb effect. It is interesting if Kolb is viewed as the answer by Reid or not? The whole idea of Reid coming here has something to do with Kolb is intriguing but just doesn’t make sense if you are Michael Bidwell. Kolb is to fragile and unproven to factor into the decision.

  55. By Scharf on Jan 1, 2013 | Reply


    Kolb was winning games in September, and then ultimately couldn’t win against the Rams where the offensive line was devoured by the Rams pass rush. Kolb was beaten and bloody, you can’t expect any QB to come out of that a winner. He was playing good football against the Bills, he even ran for 60 yards when he couldn’t get anything going through the air. He was making smart plays, and before that game was even over, he was hurt, once again because of poor offensive line play. If Feely’s kick had not been blocked, the Cardinals would have been 5-1 under Kolb this year. Bottom line, Kolb progressed in his 2nd year, and has shown in his brief appearance that he is a capable starter for this organization.

  56. By JC on Jan 2, 2013 | Reply

    Coach Ken didn’t deserve to get fired, the ownership drafts the players and I know the coach is responsible for getting them ready to play. But our QB situation has been the worse in the league since Kurt Warner left. This is not Coach Ken’s fault

  57. By Sarah on Jan 2, 2013 | Reply


    ” If Feely’s kick had not been blocked, the Cardinals would have been 5-1 under Kolb this year”. It was Skelton who put them in that position as Kolb was out at that point.


    First off, get a better handle here, hated typing that ! Not saying Kolb did not improve, he was bad in 2011 and the pre-season so much so that he got yanked as the starter. He got injured again for a season so it is high risk betting the farm on this guy having seen less than a full season on him in total. He has to restructure end of story . ”Kolb had no run game AND got worse protection than Skelton and the others”. you basically summed up the Minnesota, SF and GB game Skelton operated under. Something tripped the team in the first STL game and it never got back on track, Buffalo should have been a cakewalk !

  58. By Scuba steve on Jan 3, 2013 | Reply

    You do realize kolb was in most of the game and Kolb was the one who kept it tied right? Skelton got the ball as far as he could wich was field goal distance and missed. Then Skelton threw the game losing int. so your almighty smarts are actually wrong.

  59. By Vance N on Jan 2, 2013 | Reply

    Kevin Kolb is a legit QB who does not need to compete for a starting job, this was the failure of The Whiz. As good of a HC as he was he does not have a good history with building a Quarterback! In the 4 games Kolb played this year he has a Rating of 86.1, He completed 67 of 107 passes, thru for over 1100 yards and had 8 TD’s. He stood in a pocket that was protected by one of the worst O Lines in the NFL and got pummeled again and again and keep playing until he was hit to hard. No human can last forever in that kind of situation. If Andy Reid is truly comming in as our new Coach this is a plus in so many ways, especially for Kolb. Remember Andy Reid had Kolb in Philly where Kolb performed outstanding in two games in 2009, Kolb became the first quarterback in NFL history to throw for more than 300 yards in each of his first two career starts, he was named the starter for 2010 but was injured in a preseason game against the Packers and Mike Vick took over, we all know what happened there. Now in two games Kolb played for an injured Vick in 2010 Kolb went 22-for-35 with 201 passing yards, one touchdown and an interception in place of Vick. Against the Atlanta Falcons in week 6, Kolb went 23-for-29 for 326 yards, three touchdowns and one interception, and was named the NFC Offensive Player of the Week following his performance. These are not the traits of a bad quarterback!! Give this guy an O Line that can and will protect him and lets watch the sparks fly!!

  60. By clssylssy on Jan 2, 2013 | Reply

    Michael Bidwell has not given up on Kevin Kolb or rather his $67M dollar error hence we have a case of the tail wagging the dog. Fans who were expecting to get a new franchise QB in the draft can forget it as KK is “the man” as far as the Bidwells are concerned; they are “committed” When all is said and done KK can’t stay healthy and that should be enough of an argument…it usually is with other players who come with less of a price tag. This team was on it’s way to being a contender before injury took it’s toll (remember we beat the Patriots in their house) and that wasn’t Coach Whisenhunt’s fault, that he did not have the money to replace injured players is also not on him but rather Mr. Bidwell. KK seems like a nice guy and I wish he would just take his pile of money and retire while he is still healthy enough to enjoy his children. The Cards need new talent in the QB, O-line, RBs, and TEs. Until this team’s offense is as balanced as our defense we will be in the same situation but it won’t be a quick or cheap fix!

  61. By McKay Wilson on Jan 2, 2013 | Reply

    im sick and tired of everyone talking about how kolb is always hurt there really is nothing he can do if you get sacked ten times a day of course your going to get hurt. i strongly believe that Kolb is the guy and i hope to see either Reid or Horton as Head Coach, back to Kolb i was very impressed with his performance this year the other one of the six games he really looked bad in was that rams game which realistically im not surprised it’s hard to play good when your either getting hit or sack every snap, no matter what QB you put in there if you can’t protect him, he will struggle i said that this off season the cardz need to work on that offensive line first and give Kolb another shot.

  62. By hminus on Jan 2, 2013 | Reply

    kolb should stay—IF hes is willing to restructure his contract, hoyer also should stay & pick up another free-agent who meets the essential criteria-( 60+% completions & 2-1 td to int. ratio,)then we wont have anymore qb fiasco in arizona.

  63. By fightingbird on Jan 2, 2013 | Reply

    Tim Tebow will come if you build it (McCoy). Look what McCoy did with him in Denver .

  64. By GoCards2013 on Jan 3, 2013 | Reply

    Spend the money for a quality QB, no one has confidence in Kolb, Give Horton a chance, he has done a Great Job on D. Andy Reid had the “Dream Team” and couldn’t make the playoffs, what makes anyone think he could do better here?

  65. By Darren Urban on Jan 3, 2013 | Reply

    GoCards —

    RE: “Spend the money”

    Spend it on who? Are you actually trying to say the reason the Cards haven’t improved their QB is because they are cheap? Because that’s not the reason.

  66. By GoCards2013 on Jan 3, 2013 | Reply

    OK – maybe I should have said spend the money Wisely, we gave up the farm for Kolb and it’s gotten us nowhere. Washington gave a bunch of high picks and ended up with good value

  67. By Richardh82 on Jan 7, 2013 | Reply

    Nailed it with that SQhead…
    “If you are going to keep Kolb you better bring in a coach that runs a westcoast style offense. That’s what he played in in college and Philly. He is good at it. Trying to fit a system to players that can’t run it was Whiz’s downfall. It is a lot easier to change coaching staffs than it is to change whole rosters. If Whiz wasn’t so stubborn he might still have his job”

    Harbauragh basically played to Alex Smiths strengths, they have a fantastic line, and a more than solid running back situation. Kolb got hammered behind that line.
    Draft a better Oline, get a westcoast guy to coach a west coast QB. and the team may actually get good very quickly. Alex Smith is no the answer, your all delusional if you think that.

  68. By GoCards2013 on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    To: Gafex

    Seriously Gafex, you think that Kolb has the ability to be a franchise QB. Look at the trend and successes in the NFL. Speedy, big, mobile QB’s. Cut our losses, save the money and find a new QB. O-Line with a quality QB is the only way we will build a consistant winning franchise!

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