Putting a cap on it

Posted by Darren Urban on January 8, 2013 – 1:00 pm

While the reports are out there that VP of player personnel Steve Keim is negotiating to become the next Cardinals’ general manager, the next GM — whether it was going to be Keim or someone else — will have some work to do.

According to figures reported by John Clayton, the Cards are currently set to come in around $720,000 above the 2013 salary cap. That means at the very least there will be some restructuring to do. To have any flexibility for free agents or the like will take some paperwork. That’s why, beyond Kevin Kolb’s injuries, it will be important to try and restructure his deal (his cap number is around $13 million this coming season), or extend safety Kerry Rhodes ($6M), or make a call on linebacker Stewart Bradley ($6.5M). The cap numbers of Larry Fitzgerald (more than $10M), Darnell Dockett ($7.7M) and Adrian Wilson (more than $5M) also could be looked at in some way, shape or form.

Cap space can be found quickly if necessary, and it doesn’t have to be at the cost of losing a player outright, necessarily. Sometimes it just is a matter of shifting contract language. But there is little question there is work to be done.

Most cap space to come, according to Clayton? The Bengals, with more than $55 million. The least? The Jets, at more than $19M on the negative side.


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33 Responses to “Putting a cap on it”

  1. By D on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    All of those players mentioned should be willing to redo, maybe with the exception of Adub, he may not and asked to be released. Bradley will get cut. That is why R. Johnson should be signed in the next few months….

  2. By Kurt on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Steve Keim has his work cut out for him. Good Luck.
    Nice choice for GM

  3. By Bill L on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Surely, not quite the numbers I’ve seen…….….they’ve got Kolb at 9,000,000.00 salary and 10 Million Cap. Which is cheap for a starting QB. Is he a starting QB? Somebody(s) said so when he was traded for essentially a 1&2, and given this contract. Only Whiz who chose Matt over Warner, DA over Mattt, Skelton over Kolb, Finley over Skelton……what a joke……said he wasn’t, After he said he was?! This site shows Fitz as a 20 Million hit to the Cap………20 MILLION with no o-line and no QB(?)……wow, someone had to work hard for that. That said, the CAP is estimated to be 125 Million and the salaries don’t add up to that………what’s the difference?

  4. By clssylssy on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    I assume restructuring Fitz’s deal or Dockett’s deal or Wilson’s deal will give them an out if they choose to go elsewhere…hmmm, Rhodes was an outstanding part of the defense and if they can’t resign him , we will lose an important part of our great defense from last season…things not looking too bright for the Cards:(

  5. By Darren Urban on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Clssy —

    RE: Restructuring with an “out”

    Not necessarily.

  6. By Andy Kw on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    (Many of these Questions are too early to ask but please answer them)
    -Do you think there is a possibility that if QB Geno Smith is available when they are next to draft that the Arizona Cardinals will draft him?
    -Will Nick Eason, Rashad Johnson, Michael Adams, James Sanders, Greg Toler, and Quentin Groves be brought back? (I know it is early but what do you think?)
    -Will the Arizona Cardinals move forward without Paris Lenon, Jim Dray, Early Doucet and Vonnie Holliday and try to replace them in the draft?
    -Will Stewart Bradley be cut to increase cap space since he hasn’t been effective at all?
    -D’Anthony Batiste, Pat McQuistan, Mike Gibson, Rich Ohrnberger, Scott Wedige, Zach Nash, Kory Sperry, and Alfonso Smith are in away will be released right?
    -With LaRon Byrd developing, will he stay at the number 5 receiver spot and will the Cardinals look to add a 6th Wide Receiver to their roster this year and not 5?
    -Is there a possibility for all backup QBs John Skelton and Ryan Lindley be released?
    -Is there a possiblity for Brian Hoyer to return as the 3rd Quarterback and will Richard Bartel be brought back to also fight for the 3rd spot?

  7. By Darren Urban on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Andy Kw —

    RE: Questions

    You are right, they are too early. So since you already know that, you’ve been forewarned.

    1) Maybe.
    2) Possibly. Would think Adams, Johnson, Toler, Groves most likely.
    3) Perhaps.
    4) Could see it.
    5) Don’t know.
    6) Don’t know.
    7) Yes.
    8) Yes, probably not.

  8. By Supercardinsls100 on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply


    Do you see the cardinals going for Jake long?..or do you think the cap space will hold them back from giving him an offer?..

  9. By Darren Urban on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Super —

    RE: Long

    Don’t see it.

  10. By erik on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Extend Rhodes, cut Bradley, cut Kolb. Boom, easy! Haha at least thats how I would do it on Madden!

  11. By Darren Urban on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Erik —

    RE: Madden

    So who’s your quarterback? And don’t say you drafted “Aaron Helm from Sam Houston State” or something like that.

  12. By georgiebird on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    I would productively trade or release all the players mentioned above. It’s time to move on with younger talent especially on defense. Dockett (trade); Rhodes and Wilson release. Larry should be traded but for the credibility of the franchise, he will be kept.
    The defense was very inconsistent last year- good games, bad games. There are no Pro Bowlers on this unit- DWash comes the closest but he needs a 4-3 defense to excel- the 3-4 gives too many OLs a clear shot at him so tackles are made after 5 yards.
    It’s time to be a realist with this team, a big overhaul is necessary. The coaches, the schemes, the talent level-all have to be upgraded appreciably. Does anyone have the vision to take on this very difficult assignment?

  13. By Goodz in PHX 17 on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Buy Joe Flacco from the Ravens

  14. By Goodz in PHX 17 on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Does the team not have any interest in Lovie Smith? And if not can I ask why???

  15. By Darren Urban on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Goodz —

    RE: Lovie

    I have not heard that name and don’t expect it.

  16. By Chris Lewis on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    reply to Bill L

    The joke is that you can’t even get the players’ names right, you not only misspelled Lindley, you got the name completely wrong. Who the hell is Finley? And yes, Kolb is a starting QB. It’s not his fault our O-line at the time was horrible and he had to constantly run for his life, which is why he got hurt, but before he was hurt, he was playing extremely well.

  17. By Bill C on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Darren –

    Now that Steve Keim is GM, please tell me that he fought hard to get an OT in the first round of the 2012 draft & was overruled, and that he recommended the Cards draft Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, and/or Nick Foles when they had a chance, but his opinion was ignored. Because if he wasn’t leading those charges, trying to use our high draft picks on top offensive linemen or QB’s and was instead recommending what we did do, then he’s no better than the people who just got fired.

    Bill C

  18. By philly cards 1994- on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    I would cut rashaad johnson yesterday what’s he ever done?we have numerous mike stones on the current roster.this will be an easy task for the new coach. He won’t be in love with deadbeats like bradley and toler. He can clear that up in days. Bring in his guys.

    Adub is untouchable. Kolb can’t be blamed and needed so leave his number alone. Fitz can defer some and docket too they all got paid already.

    Just think all the money we had going into 2010.that’s why whiz and gravy are gone

  19. By AndyStandsUp on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    However, you don’t want to be like the Steelers (that’s a novelty) and backload contracts so much that you hurt yourself for years
    Dos questions Darren:
    Can you restructure in consecutive years (which would be Wilson)? And how much would Wells drop the salary number if cut?
    And I guess tres inquiries. What exactly is “dead money”?

  20. By Darren Urban on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    AndyStands —

    RE: Cap questions

    1) I do not know, but I don’t see why not.
    2) I’d have to look it up. He doesn’t have a big number, IIRC.
    3) “Dead money” is the term used for cap space taken up by a player no longer on the roster. For instance, if a player signed a 3-year deal worth $3 million salary each year and a $6 million signing bonus, his yearly cap number is $5M ($3M salary plus prorated $2M SB each year). Say he was cut after the first year. Salaries aren’t guaranteed. But there would be $4M left of prorated signing bonus that would be “dead money” against the cap.

  21. By warnerHOF on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    those of you who think we ought to keep kolb are crazy. he looks at only 1 receiver instead of looking at the no.2 read, 3 read etc. the 4 games he won were won by the defense. he didnt even have to drive them down the field. most of the time we only got a field goal in the red zone. most of his passes were dumpoffs because he doesnt have the ability to scan the field.whiz ruined skelton.first he names him the starting qb,then we score 13 pts before he got hurt the first game. he is out 5 weeks with a low ankle sprain. the reason he was out for 5 games is becausewhiz wouldnt let him come back. the most he should of been out was 2 weeks. how does a starting qb lose his job after playing half of a game our first game. unheard of. whiz ruined his confidence and when he did play he never knew if he was going to be pulled. horrible coaching. its hard to lead a team and have confidence when you never know what the coaching staff is going to do. miller was the worst oc i have ever seen.get rid of kolb and save that 13 million to sign other players that we need.kolb is barely worth the league minimum if even that

  22. By Austin on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Bill L.-
    For someone who likes to appear so well informed and in the know I have one question…….Who’s Finley? Just sayin, if you don’t even know the players names how can I begin to believe you actually know their salaries

    P.S. You forgot Hall over DA and Skelton over Hall.

  23. By Terry E on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Adrian Wilson has been a mainstay but it doesn’t look like he has a long term future with this team. I would love to see him retire as a Card though.

  24. By Rio on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    Great GM choice, now less see if we can find a Coach, so glad we clean house with Wiz and the Hog.

  25. By Andy Kw on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    This is what I say this team does to increase cap space:
    -Instead of paying $128 million dollars until 2018 for Larry Fitzgerald, lets shrink it down to $120 million.
    -Lets cut Stewart Bradley, since he was so ineffective, to increase cap space.
    -Lets reduce Darnell Dockett’s over 7 million to 5 million.
    -Lets reduce Adrian Wilson’s more that 5 million to 4 million.
    -Kevin Kolb should have his earning reduce from $13 million to $9 million.
    -Kerry Rhodes should have his contract extended but should reduce his $6 million down to 4 million.
    -Negotiate contracts with Adam Snyder, Daryn Colledge, Levi Brown, and Lyle Sendlein since they are carrying a bulk of the cap space i think.

    That way, we will have a bigger opportunity to bring back young players like S Rashad Johnson, LB Quentin Groves, and CB Greg Toler and other players.

  26. By D on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    The media in Dallas is about as sharp as a feather. Horton is under contract and can’t make a lateral move and no way AZ would release him. Who ever the next HC is may want to present the best OL offer to Juan Castillo. He has five offers out there to be a OL coach. A good OL coach, but not as good for Defense. (still can’t believe Andy did that…that was crazy–maybe Reid has lost it)

    Darren, is there any truth that Grimm had to convince Whiz to change up the blocking scheme for the OL around week 6-7. Why wasn’t that thought of when Levi got hurt. IF that is true, that is the stubborness that drove us fans crazy….maybe why he us still looking for a HC job.(you would think the owner being a Pittsburgh guy would have hired Whiz by now) Do we also know if Massie can play LG?

  27. By Darren Urban on Jan 8, 2013 | Reply

    D —

    RE: OL/Massie

    I don’t know if Grimm had to convince him but clearly the Cards took longer than you would have thought to adjust the scheme. As for Massie, I do not know if that would be an option.

  28. By Eazy E on Jan 9, 2013 | Reply

    That cap isn’t as hard as it looks. Cut Kolb now don’t continue to be idiots. Bradley should be cut also. Get Kerry a new deal and the other ones are fine. That frees up so much space right there. That doesn’t even include some free agents that we should let test the waters and possibly go and we better go after Jake Long with our horrific o-line. Why the hell is that even asked how pathetic our o-line is.

  29. By Madriffs on Jan 9, 2013 | Reply

    Trade Darnell Dockett for 3rd round pick. That’s 7.7M right there. Kolb will restructure and extend Rhodes’ contract. I know it’s not that easy but that’s my two cents.

  30. By Dobler Dog on Jan 9, 2013 | Reply

    In regard to QB’s and with all the technology available today, is there not some kind of drill or test scouts can utilize to determine 2 things…can a QB look off receivers, and determine whether a receiver is open or not? The good ones can do it and the bad ones cannot. Seems like there should be some way to do this…am I wrong?

  31. By Darren Urban on Jan 9, 2013 | Reply

    Dobler —

    RE: QB drill

    You would be wrong.

  32. By truths4all on Jan 9, 2013 | Reply

    IF the new HC is willing to play a West Coast Offense (WCO) derivative, keep Kolb and renegotiate his contract down to market levels of a back-up QB as his numbers (except for the Philly game) were merely passable, IF the new HC wants a more sophisticated and varied offensive attack (read-run-pass (RGIII, Wilson, Kaepernick), timing pass attack (Brady, Peyton, Rodgers), vertical attack (Brady, Eli, Rodgers, Matt Ryan, etc) , then they will cut Kolb.

    Kolb fans still have not recognized that Whiz finally relented in the first Seattle game from trying to force Kolb to play Kurt Warner’s offensive passing attack. Once Skelton got injured, Whiz had Kolb running only WCO type plays which Kolb has done well in since his college days at Houston and at Philly under Reid. But make no mistake, Kolb was also injury prone in Philly and that is why Philly was so willing to trade him.

  33. By clssylssy on Jan 10, 2013 | Reply

    @Dobler…LOL! Sounds like you’ve been playing Madden football too long and don’t get out of the arcade enough to watch QBs from other teams perform, or look at old footage of Kurt Warner. The greats like Brady, Brees, Rogers, P Manning make it look easy and that’s why they get the big bucks. K. Kolb doesn’t fall into that group but even if he had the potential he can’t stay healthy for even half a season which makes him a costly liability; that’s what I call “dead” cap money…when we consistently have to pay a single player season after season to sit on the bench. I know Mr. B. is stuck on “fixing” Kolb but it’s going to take a wizard with a magic wand and an endless supply of bubblewrap. The Cards need Fitz to fill the stands and sell jerseys; he is the reason people go see the Cards play. Looks like Mr. Keim has his job cut out for him and is going to need a HC with some contacts in the NFL, clout, and an ability to wheel and deal for draft picks…which leaves Grudens, Haley, Carmichael, Kyle Shanahan (not available till at least after next season)McCoy..some established names…which are beyond our budget:(

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