Planning a practice bubble in Tempe

Posted by Darren Urban on February 11, 2013 – 4:41 pm

For a long time the concept of a indoor practice bubble being installed at the Cards’ Tempe facility has been floating out there. It was something that first got traction when Ken Whisenhunt was first hired, although it hasn’t happened yet.

Yet may be the key phrase there. Team president Michael Bidwill said today, during an interview on “Doug and Wolf” on Arizona Sports 620, that the hope is that the Cardinals will finally get a bubble sometime this year.

“We’re going through a process now of getting a bubble in Tempe,” Bidwill said. “We had a political problem there, the former Mayor was opposed to it, but (new) Mayor (Mark) Mitchell, who is a great guy, is all for being supportive of this and hopefully we’ll get that done at the Tempe training facility this year. It’s an exciting time for us and it will really bring us back up to speed as far as being state of the art.”

Obviously, given the extreme heat early in the season, the chance to have an air conditioned practice facility would be a big benefit for the Cardinals — and make sure they don’t have to travel to ASU anymore (like last season, pictured below) to use a bubble if the weather called for it. Usually it stays pretty toasty during practice times all the way until late October, nearly halfway through the schedule.

Along those lines, Bidwill reiterated nothing has been decided on the spot of 2013 training camp, although discussions are ongoing with both NAU in Flagstaff and Glendale, location of University of Phoenix Stadium.


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24 Responses to “Planning a practice bubble in Tempe”

  1. By AndyStandsUp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Bye, bye Flagstaff.

    You will be missed.

  2. By Cards Season Ticket Holder on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Bring the practice bubble to Glendale. We will welcome it with open arms. We are “All In” when it comes to the RedBirds.

  3. By Andy Kw on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Any practicing facility will be great for this team 😀
    -I love the coaching staff Bruce Arians have assembled so good work so far.
    -We need some serious changes in our QB position; Retain Kevin Kolb but release Ryan Lindley, John Skelton, and Brian Hoyer. Lindley was Whisenhunt’s failed project so it is time to end it. Brian Hoyer was decent but will probably test the FA market due to his okay performance against the 49ers. John Skelton has a big arm and will be a nice developmental QB for this team but he has continued to being inaccurate and I think his time will be coming to an end because of it. He might be signed as a backup for the Jacksonville Jaguars and possibly be a nice starter over Gabbert.
    -We reduce Kevin Kolbs contract to increase cap space, sign Drew Stanton as a backup QB, and draft QB Zac Dysert in the 2nd or 3rd round of the 2013 draft.
    -We retain Beanie Wells, Ryan Williams, and LaRod Stephens-Howling. Release William Powell.
    -Reduce Larry Fitzgerald’s contract down to 100 million, retain Andre Roberts, Michael Floyd, Early Doucet, and LaRon Byrd. This team should switch back to having 6 Wide Receivers and draft the 6th Wide Receiver in the draft.
    -The O-Line will need to do something about their expensiveness. Lyle Sendlein, Daryn Colledge, Levi Brown, and Bobby Massie should stay. I think it is time to say an early goodbye to Adam Snyder to increase cap space and we should fill the void by drafting Guard Chance Warmack to replace him since he will be a lot cheaper. We retain Tackle Nate Potter but release D’Anthony Batiste, G Mike Gibson, G Rich Ohrnberger, T Pat McQuistan, and C Scott Wedige.
    -TE Rob Housler and Jeff King should be retained. I think we should release Jim Dray and Kory Sperry so that we can restart fresh at backups.
    -The Defensive Line should be keeping Calais Campbell, Darnell Dockett, and Dan Williams. David Carter should also be retained. I love Nick Eason’s veteran presence so he should stay. We should be releasing Vonnie Holliday and Ronald Talley.
    -The Linebackers corps will keep Daryl Washington, Sam Acho, and O’Brien Schofield but should cut Stewart Bradley. This team should also retain Quentin Groves and Paris Lenon for 1 more year. Reggie Walker should be kept as well but Zack Nash should be gone.
    -The Defensive Backs are a huge concern. We keep Patrick Peterson, Adrian Wilson, and Kerry Rhodes. Our team should be releasing our long time Cardinal Michael Adams and Greg Toler. This team needs to bring back Rashad Johnson. I have doubts on William Gay but he should be retained as well. Justin Bethel should be kept and Jamell Fleming should compete for the starting job with William Gay.
    -Our Special Team should remain the same with Feely, Zastudil, and Leach.

  4. By Andy Kw on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I AM PRAISING TO DRAFT QB ZAC DYSERT PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Please sign Drew Stanton as well, I feel so good knowing that my prediction for him possibly coming to Arizona might come true.

  5. By Patrick Eagan on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    whatever gets us to the superbowl. go cardinals! In bruce arians i Trust!

  6. By Credit Card on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    The biggest benefit, will be the control factor. That is, honest coaches such as Bill Belichick will have a harder time spying on competing team’s practices. Ah yes, spygate is still alive and well in New England.

  7. By Cactus Jeff on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    John the Draft Guy
    I am all in on Carson Palmer. I think Kolb, Doucet and Roberts are gone. I sense they want more speed at WR and more production at OLB. Also, don’t sleep on Colt and Eagle free Agents.

  8. By Bay Area Bad Boy on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    How about we just get the bubble and let the coaching staff worry about the players. New Staff, New Beginning, New Era. And most importantly. New Hope.

  9. By dieselbomb on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Carson Palmer?!? NOooo! Palmer isn’t worth the time it takes to watch a couple game films. I think he’s done in the NFL.

    I think there just isn’t enough talent in this up-coming draft period to target a QB. Who’s going to be available to step up from FA to step in and help? I’m thinking we’re left with who we already have.

    I was a proponent of Skelton, but wonder if his ineffectiveness comes from the difficulties Whisenhunt created with him or is he simply already at his best? If we’ve seen the best of Skelton, it would be better that we cut or trade him. The Lindley experiment was more a soap opera covering how to completely ruin a rookie QB. But Kolb, Lindley and Hoyer seem to be the best chance to make something happen without having to start from square one yet again.

  10. By D on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Carson Palmer? Cut Kolb? Are you people insane. Palmer is stealing money from Oak, no way he should be making the coin that he is currently for his skill set…Kolb’s contract means he won’t be cut this year…this team can’t afford those huge dead cap space amounts….Roberts is too good to get rid Doucet is another story..he has declined since the super bowl run….I can see releasing him if no trades can be made since his salary is high for the 4th wr.
    Restructure: Kolb, Campbell, Rhodes, Fitzgerald and Colledge.
    Remeber in a year or so PP will need a new huge deal so they must prepare for it.
    Levi Brown is actually making less than most Left Tackles but too much to release because of the cap hit. Also need to figure out what to do with Adub and Bradley

  11. By Supercardinals100 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    How great will this be of an offseason..sign jake long to a reasonable contract since his injury and get a few other players for depth here and there then go to the draft trade down 2 or 4 spots and draft warmack!…and get lacy if he is there in the second round still if not then get our qb I would love our offseason to start like that the our offense would look like this
    Jake long,daryn colledege,Lyle syndelin,warmack,bobby massie and kiln at qb restructured contract fitz Floyd in the outside Roberts in the slot and lacy in the back field ready to run some Seahawks and 49ers over!

  12. By Cactus Jeff on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Diesel bomb and D
    No other options, Kolb doesn’t have the arm, plus he can’t stay healthy. I get the OL argument but drafting young LT will not sufficiently upgrade the OL next year, the QB will get hit either way. No way Alex Smith will be a Cardinal, if I am wrong and he has talent, now way Niners let’s him end up in AZ. So what other options are there?

  13. By burwin on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I’d bet the practice bubble in Tempe pretty much guarantees training camp will be moved to Tempe and then closed to the public.

  14. By Brian on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    D –

    Kolb’s contract is structured so that we can cut him without a lot of dead money. The majority of the money owed to him right now is his salary and I believe if we cut him, we are only on the hook for anything left in his bonus money which was front loaded in his contract. But I agree, it would need to be restructured so that we aren’t paying him $13 million this year because he’s not worth that much if he can’t stay healthy. Hopefully he does restructure down to $5-6 million and we catch lightning in a bottle with him working with Arians and Moore. I think we have more talent on the o-line than Indy so the fact that Luck got hit a lot last year doesn’t concern me that much. Whoever the QB is this year will be better protected because of the coaching and I still think Kolb can get the job done as long as he doesn’t take as many hits as he did in 5 games last season.

    Andy Kw –

    Dude, you come out with a new “This team should do this…” and “this team should do that…” post every other day it seems like. I’m looking forward to seeing what this team does in FA and the draft so I get the excitement, but relax a little bro 🙂

  15. By Darren Urban on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Brian, D —

    RE: Kolb “dead money”

    Cutting Kolb would create $6M of “dead” cap.

  16. By Dynosoar on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Andy Kw,

    I’m with you man, it’s hard not to be excited every day with the chages an almost entirely new coaching staff brings.

    Brian, thrilled you’re excited as well. I also like reading your posts, well thought out (or at least they read that way.) Sometimes mine are thought out and sometimes I’m shooting from the hip.

    I don’t know anything about Zac Dysert, but I do think Desert Dysert is a way cool monikor. I like Tyler Bray, but think he will need development before he can be a starter. John the Draft Guy has some good QB insights,

    John, what are your assessments of Zac Dysert?

    To all, looking forward to blogging with you all the way into the playoffs next season. I want home field advantage in SB 49 and I also want to win SB 48, is it possible anymore for a team to win back to back. If so, that’s what I want.

  17. By D on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Brian, go ask Mr. B if 6 mil of dead money is not alot

  18. By D on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Cactus Jack-
    If you listened to Mr. Moore’s press conference, he stated that he doesn’t have a one fit only offense but adapts to the player’s strength…so I could see Kolb being the starter with a 2 or 3rd round draft pick learning and another free agent qb on the roster as the backup….
    One thing I think Whiz didn’t do well was adjusting his offense to the Off line and QB to his playbook. Not too many QB are like Warner who had a great pre snap vision of the defense and knew where to exploit and go with the ball…

  19. By Andy Kw on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Before I keep saying which QB should be drafted, here are my thoughts on the top 7 QBs in the 2013 Draft and my ranks:
    -1.) Geno Smith: He is accurate in his throws, dynamic as a pocket passer, and can make smart runs to avoid injuries and sacks. He is by far the best QB in this draft class than anyone else. His speed makes him a huge threat on the field.
    -2.) E.J Manuel: This guys might not be the fastest of players but he has the ability to out maneuver opponents and is capable of developing into a decent scrambler. His presence of reading the field and making accurate decisions gives him a slight advantage among all NFL players in the 2013 QB Draft Class. He not only can run, he has a strong, accurate arm am well making him a double threat like Geno Smith.
    -3.) Zac Dysert: He can definitely make some high caliber passes. He can stretch the ball down the field and can convert a 50 yard pass but he has the inconsistency to under throwing the ball giving Defensive Backs more opportunities to pick him off. He can be accurate but also inconsistent. He is all about the short passes but can be a huge pocket passer if his accuracy improves and his decision making abilities change.
    -4.) Mike Glennon: He has decent arm strength and many times make nice accurate throws. The downside to him is that he is not dynamic. He can make a lot of throws but he lacks the ability to give the ball to receivers to catch the ball easily. He has a good ability to throw a ball into tight coverage but he also has the tendency to overestimate his arm and causes an interception.
    5.) Landry Jones: He is capable of being better than many Quarterbacks in the NFL. I have huge expectations for this prospect but he does not make good decisions when under pressure. He can throw ball into tight coverages, has decent arm strength, decent speed, but does not have the ability to do well in no huddle situations.
    6.) Matt Barkley: He relies too much on screen plays. He has slow mechanics, has slow release on the ball and will have trouble when put in tough situations. He is an extremely accurate QB with nice arm strength but he lacks the zip and speed to his passes. He might end up like Matt Leinart or Mark Sanchez which is why this QB will be a huge risk. He might be accurate but looking at the way he throws the ball, many Defensive Backs in the NFL could easily ruin his career as a QB. With slow release on the pass, he might be a bust or he might end up like Carson Palmer where he will have some successes but lacks leadership to stay consistent.
    7.) Ryan Nassib: This prospect, I fear, is not ready for the Professional level. He has the ability to cough up the ball when sacked. He has trouble maintaining possession of the ball when under pressure and will make bad decisions on the long run. He is fast as a scrambler and is decent on accuracy but his turnover issues will be a huge factor in where he will be drafted in the 2013 draft.

    *UPDATE: Geno Smith and E.J Manuel seem to be most intriguing in the 2013 NFL draft so draft either or but if Geno Smith is available, take him. Zac Dysert was the QB I thought would be in this organizations future but he needs major improvements to get there.

  20. By Cactus Jeff on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Good points, but I keep going back to Big Ben and Luck and how they can spin it down the field. Serious adjustments needed to fit to Kolb’s strengths. We shall see. Palmer looks to be a better stop gap fit if he were to be available.

  21. By Scott H on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Not related to this but just saw the story about Ryan Williams looking forward to his “Third Chance” and it occurs to me that we have entirely too many guys falling into this category! I mean, isn’t Kevin Kolb also looking forward to HIS third chance??? And by the way, that would be his third chance JUST with the Cardinals. Don’t forget, his last year with Philly, he went down injured in the season opener and that opened the door for Michael Vick. So, really, this coming season is Kolb’s 4th ( YES, FOURTH ) chance in as many seasons to TRY to play any more than half a season before spending the rest of the season watching from the sidelines. Note to Cardinals – starting QB’s can’t win games when they’re wearing baseball caps. And, frankly, Kolb may as well start playing for the Diamondbacks because he wears a baseball cap more than he wears a football helmet at this point.

    And then there’s Beanie Wells….same thing.

    And Ryan Williams…same thing.

    Ya know, you can choose to try to ignore reality but…more often than not, reality wins. We went into last season counting on these guys and it was pretty much a disaster. Are we REALLY gonna be that foolish again????

    I’m SOOOOO tired of the question marks and the un-certainty and the if’s and the maybe’s that we are hanging out hats on every year at these key positions. Can’t win that way, but I think we’ve proven that rather conclusively over the years. At what point do you stop doing what isn’t working and start plotting a new course?

  22. By D on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    It’s way too early to tell, combine will help clear the questions about some draft picks and free agency will determine some important positions etc. One thing no one is talking about is the chance that Geno Smith could be on the board at #7. The two teams Cards fans have to worry about are the Chiefs and the Eagles.
    Well, the Chiefs are telling last years starter at Left Tackle that they want to upgrade. Rumors Andy Reid will go after Alex Smith or trade for N. Folk. I can see him take Jockel at #1 spot.
    The Eagles just gave Vick starter money to stay one more year. You don’t draft a QB at #4 in the draft to sit the entire year behind Vick. They need a left tackle too and Fisher is almost as good as Jockel. (I don’t see a team spending alot of draft picks to go up to grab Geno, he is not A. Luck) I don’t see BA passing up Geno if he is on the board…..stay tuned…..

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