The speculation of free agency

Posted by Darren Urban on March 10, 2013 – 9:17 am

It doesn’t matter when free agency starts, whether it is a “soft” opening like the NFL has tried this year or the normal start of free agency (deals can be consummated starting at 1 p.m. Tuesday) — there will be rumors and speculation. It’s always tough to know exactly where it’s coming from. Is the agent just trying to drum up a market for the player? Is it serious interest? Sometimes, it feels like the recruiting process in high school for an athlete — a player could have “interest” from Alabama and Michigan and LSU and Oklahoma, but was it a form letter sent out to dozens of players or was it a phone call from Les Miles?

(And yes, obviously an NFL player isn’t getting a direct phone call from a team right now, because of the rules.)

So it’s within this context that the news must be viewed of the Cardinals looking at cornerback Sean Smith, or interest in Reggie Bush, or return man Josh Cribbs. Obviously, the Cardinals are going to have to be active in free agency to a point, because they will need to fill out a roster that has shrunk through recent cuts. This is the new NFL by the way — Rick Gosselin notes 11 players who started 16 games this season have been cut already, along with three others who started 15 games (including Adrian Wilson.) It will be very interesting to see what kind of contracts are reached with many of these players on the market. The Ravens are looking for Anquan Boldin to take a pay cut, which he doesn’t want to do. It’s a tough time to be an older veteran, regardless of performance.

As for what might happen with the Cards, well, they’d like to re-sign cornerback Greg Toler and safety Rashad Johnson. There hasn’t been much talk about free agent LaRod Stephens-Howling and the Bush news — if accurate — would not bode well for the Hyphen’s return. Neither would someone like Cribbs. (It does seem like interest in Bush contradicts Bruce Arians’ concept of a three-down back, but reports are Bush has become better all-around in Miami compared to his Saints years.)

This week will be fun to watch play out.

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79 Responses to “The speculation of free agency”

  1. By MIKE HADZINSKI C.M. PUNK on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    darren why is adam snyder still on the team ? i heard we are talking to a steelers o-lineman ramon foster any truth?

  2. By Darren Urban on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    Mike Hadzinski —

    RE: Snyder/Foster

    I don’t know about Foster, but I’d put that in the same category as above.

    As for Snyder, makes no sense to cut, at least right now. $4M cap hit on the team, $4M cap hit if you cut. Might as well see how the roster plays out. Could be valuable flexible reserve if he doesn’t start.

  3. By D on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    Not sure where AZ plans on getting all of this cap room, unless they plan on cutting Synder and Kolb to go along with the other cuts already. There was also news about AZ interests in G Foster from the Steelers and C. Palmer if he is cut by Oak. I would think if they sign Bush to a deal, both Hyphen and Wells would be gone because I still think they will draft a RB in rounds 4 or 5 as the 3rd RB behind Williams.

  4. By Steven on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    I just hope the Cardinals do something other then try and stir excitment within us fans to keep us packing in that stadium. It seems like every year they do one good logical move that betters the orginization and the rest to make sure their pockets get filled. I’m tired of Arizona sport team owners who are cheap and make bone head decisions. Keep kolb get him an o-line to keep his ass un glued from the turf. No one wants Geno Smith, draft what will make us competitors. Nobody will bash you if you spend a little extra buck to get elite players. The way you make the players stay is really not money, its the fans, its the city, the organization. You have the best fans in the NFL and your not doing any good by making sure every QB availabl

  5. By carlo milano on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    also Ramon Foster on the list,an offensive guard…then i guess the safety will be chris clemons

  6. By Coach Kevin on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    I hope they can resign Stephens-Howling. I think he has been highly productive in all phases of the game and earned his keep. Toler and Johnson need to be retained, and if the price is right, Sean Smith would be a great signing.

  7. By tyman on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    All free agents are risky. Id say sing them cheap and keep the cap to lock up Patrick and our next potential starting QB.

  8. By Justin on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    I am confused why there has not been more interest in Jake Long by the Cardinals. The Offensive Line is in terrible shape and he is a 4 or 5 time pro bowler in the prime of his career.

  9. By Tucsonaaron on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply


    This is because he is gonna want to be the highest paid tackle and with our cap room you would blow the wad on one player!! Not gonna happen would be nice but realistically not possible.

  10. By Andy Kw on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    I hope Early Doucet finds the team that could use his talent. His combination of speed and agility makes him lethal but since our team is so packed at Wide Receiver, he wasn’t necessarily needed anymore. Thank you Early Doucet for your terms with the Cardinals. Whoever signs you will be really lucky because you have the capabilities of being a #2 receiver for any team.

  11. By andystandsup on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    The “new” NFL is making the capologist almost as important as the general manager. Teams like the Steelers and Jets have restructured and backloaded their contracts so much that the emphasis to make the team better HAS to be through the draft. You’re robbing Peter to pay Paul.
    And from what I’ve read, the cap will stay flat for the next few seasons and more and more cap casualties will happen, unless the TV contracts come to the rescue.
    Darren, have you heard any more news on that front?

  12. By Darren Urban on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    Andystands —

    RE: Cap jumps

    My understanding is that, even with increases in TV deals, both the players union and the league are trying to avoid a dramatic one-year jump, so deals aren’t skewed in one season for one free-agent class.

  13. By djjackson81 on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    If the Cards get lucky and get Warmack then Snyder may be cut or at worst he could be back up dept.

  14. By eric on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    not sure how i feel about reggie me,he isn’t the back BA described….shonn greene on the other hand is.can not wait for tuesday.

  15. By Rich on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    gotta keep Snyder. he can play any of the five positions. last year we lacked depth and snyder can start or provide that depth. besides, he may be a better center than Sendlein. Don’t be surprised if Sendleing is gone before the season starts.

  16. By Mike Ellingboe on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply


    Jake Long is a tough call. His upside, as you said, is obvious but he’s had three surgeries in the past two seasons. I doubt the Dolphins will let him hit the open market but it would have to set off some warning bells if they do. With this draft as deep at LT as it is, we’d probably be better off going that route. I’m guessing he’d be a good $10 million dollar cap hit yearly, and I don’t think we have the flexibility for that.

    But to your point, I do agree it’s something that has to be strongly considered if he’s healed and available. He would instantly make a shaky OL pretty solid, and we could justify a shot at Geno Smith @ #7. Without Long, there’s no way I’d think they could, especially if a guy like Fisher unexpectedly slides. Probably a lot of thought for nothing, though. The Dolphins aren’t going to let a top tier LT go without good reason.

  17. By djjackson81 on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    Can you see Chance Warmack in the first and Barrett Jones round two for AZ?

  18. By joe holst on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    They can’t afford free agents, they are only 8 million under the cap which is enough for their dtaft picks, maybe resign toler OR .R. johnson and then you need some space going into the season to allow for injuries. Let free agency go that ship has sailed thanks to Rod Graves, reality not fantasy.

  19. By Corgon on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    I think R. Bush is a bit underrated: He has a lion’s share in the saints SB run. He’d be an absolutely good addition and I also could see him as an every down back.
    As for the Hyphen, it will be a luxury to quit on him. He showed us what he’s capable of. If its necessary he can handle a whole game (ok, maybe not for a season long, but still), he’s a great situational player, a good special teamer and this whole “every down, not pass catching back” thing of BA it’s stinks. Maybe in a perfect world you can have 2-3 productive, good blocking, mostly running back back in your roster. But in a real world if you don’t want a type of player as the Hyphen, you’re a fool. From roster angle (strictly) his release would be worts then Adrian’s cut. And that wasn’t a smart move either…..or a good thing. Let him test the open market and he’ll be taken by a smart team like the Pats, Saints, Ravens or the Packers.
    Last but not least I’d like to wish Early all the best. I’d really liked him, but he had to go, that wasn’t a question for a moment. All those drops are killed him…and us as well and fortunately we have a good corps of wideouts. He has the potential to be a productive nr 2,3 WR somewhere with a QB.
    From now on the Cards has to be really smart if they want a complett team after the draft. We have a lots of holes and they have to address several spots on the roster before the draft to be good on it again. I’m curious what will happen at the next week. I’d like to see restructure Dockett, resign the Hyphen, R. Johnsson, a CB (could be Toler or someone else as well), maybe Groves, an I/OLB, a nr 1 RB and of course a QB (potential starter or backup or just Kolb taking a paycut doesn’t matter these are just different ways)
    And at the draft one Oline starter, QB, TE, I/OLB and depth to the LB corps.
    And some point a safety, because still, the AW cut wasn’t a smart or a right move.

    But anyway Go Cards!

  20. By cobra on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply


    I like the thumbs up or down addition. Any chance you could add “undecided”? A lot of us agree on some matters and not on others within the same comment?

  21. By Darren Urban on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    Cobra —

    RE: Rating system

    Sorry. You’ve got what I had to give.

  22. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply


    As Mike said above, Long’s body is breaking down. Now if the dolphins, who drafted a franchise QB, is willing to let their 5 time probowl tackle go, there are lots of red flags. I’ve heard of the Tony Bosselli comparisons , when his body began to brake down.

    I agree with you. I like Bush but he doesn’t fit what BA said he wanted, even if he is a 3 down back. Shonn Greene would seem to be a better fit. Maybe everything he said was a smoke screen.

  23. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    To everyone about Snyder;

    As Darren has pointed out (and for some reason, got a lot of thumbs down for stating a fact) Snyder gets his 4 mil cap hit on or off the team. Snyder can play center guard and tackle, making him a very valuable backup.

    I agree Snyder is not a starter and was a bad signing, but BA can’t do anything about that. But as the 6th or 7th guy on the line, he has value. Especially since you save nothing by cutting him.

  24. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply


    Any rumor, clue or feeling of what they do with Levi?

    I find value in him but he could be subject to cap savings.

  25. By Darren Urban on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    John the draft guy —

    RE: Levi

    I expect him here. But I am not ruling anything out anymore. Feels like they are blowing it up.

  26. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply


    I agree. As a long time fan, and you as a long time guy who covers the team, It seems hard to predict or know the direction this new regime will go in.

    Like the Reggie Bush thing or Sean Smith. I mean we have a number one CB and CBs are deep in this draft, and Nobody gave up more first downs and TDs than Sean Smith. Yet here we are talking about him.

    Are you a little puzzled or is it just me?

  27. By cobra on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply


    Just asking, it still helps, thx.

  28. By Mike Ellingboe on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    99% of me knows that these rumors are just the vivid imaginations of league “insiders,” but the 1% gullibility factor left behind does wonder if we’re seeing some difference of opinion between Arians and Keim. Arians made our OL sound good, whereas Keim openly acknowledged the need to improve our physicality up front. Possible that they have a difference of opinion on what our RB’s should look like. Historically, Arians hasn’t put a bunch of emphasis on the position, whereas Keim wouldn’t mention needing a more physical line if our running game wasn’t a targeted area.

    Getting more curious by the day to see what kind of appearance/personality the ’13 version takes on. If there is a difference, I’m hoping it’s Keim’s version that wins out. Can’t see any point in going with the status quo that’s left our offense as our achilles heel for the past few seasons.

  29. By ored on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    horton and the rest of the coaches was just the preview,can’t blame them,keeping same players and staff=same problems.his neck is on the chopping block,so makes sense he wants “his people”,and he probably gets a shorter leash than whiz.if it still does’nt work this time then i think it’s time to really start fresh re:9ers and seahawks,no more old regime from old glory days of steelers,etc,no carryover or loyalty to old mates,fresh faces(i know carroll has been here before but it’s been awhile),should be real interesting what chip does at philly.that said i’m still glad we gave ba his shot,now hoping it’s heard around the league.

  30. By Luke on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    Honestly idk why the Cardz are going after Sean Smith. I read Articles saying he;s worth 6-10 million. Why would the Cardz even think about that? We need a Rb and LB/DE not another Cb…

  31. By P2wicewazhannintho on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    All I want to know, is why 34# is still on the roster? There have been talks about departing with Wells/Stephens-Howling. Why would they keep the most injury prone running back I have ever seen over a former 1st round pick and a proven playmaker like LSH? You see guys get cut all the time despite how good they are because they stay getting hurt, yet Williams who has shown nothing but the ability to fumble at crucial times and back to back season ending injurys. Why is Graves waste of a draft pick still here if the “new regime” is cleaning house? Go ahead and give this 13 thumbs down Cards fans, but you will see…

  32. By Brandon on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    I so agree with you # 34 should be cut. Wait you know what he should of been cut straight after his first year in preseason.

    This is all sarcasm, your comment was stupid.

  33. By Credit Card on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    The Broncos want Greg Tolar … real bad. In the Denver Post, they think he can replace Champ Bailey. Come-on Cards,resign Tolar.

  34. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    Mike Ellingboe,

    I agree with you. There is something up. You hear one thing, then they seem to move into another direction.

    Smoke screen? I dont know. But hard to truly get a read on things.

    Could Sean Smith be leverage to convince Toler to come back? Sean Smith has all the talent in the world but hasnt produced. not sure why he is a target.

    Another interesting rumor out there is someone might be willing to give up a two and sign RFA Hoyer. I dont know if I believe it, but either way we win.

    P2wicewazhannintho ;

    Why cut a guy who will save so little? If you bring him into camp and he is not one of the top 3 RBs, then release him. But right now, what would we gain?

  35. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    Coach Kevin and other Matt Scott fans;

    I believe it is Coach Kevin who is banging the table for Scott. Well, after a very good combine, he is catching some attention. Ive seen him anywhere from 3rd to 5th round projection.

    I’m not sold on him yet, but he is an interesting prospect.

    He has a slight build but strong arm. He is a run first kind of guy in a Rich Rodriguez style offense, which made Denard Robinson a household name. Those are my concerns, a running QB in a system that made him look good. But I have heard of comparisons of Senaca Wallace, which interesting enough was someone they compared Russel Wilson to.

    If the Cards dont take a QB in the first 3 rounds, he would be worth the risk. Of course I like Geno, Landry, Wilson, and EJ better. But if we went Geno one or EJ in the second and Scott in the 4th (ala Skins), I would be happy.

  36. By clssylssy on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    Bush is a prima donna and more Pete Carroll mentality; the fans didn’t like it in Leinert and Bush brings more of the same which is part of the reason he hasn’t been able to stay with one team. Steven Jackson would be awesome but is not in the same financial universe. We need DEPTH and a good ground game. I would hope that we learned that without depth we are dead in the water and it will not matter who the coaches are, injuries happen and it’s important to have new bodies with a heartbeat to send out after the starters go down. Since we have no money to replace all of these cuts we have been making, I’m not sure how we are suppose to pay anybody. We have painted ourselves into a corner and making cuts just to give the illusion that there is a plan makes me VERY nervous and skeptical that there has been any strategic planning. Other teams are making moves to resign and renegotiate with key players and the Cards are doing nothing but keeping the fans dangling, which is like being on a runnaway train. I sure hope the organization isn’t in a hurry when it comes time to pay for season tickets…karma really sucks! …and RE-SIGN TOLER!

  37. By iammattyoung on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    One thing that I think will change with Keim stepping into the GM role is the idea that simply signing “impact” free-agents will help the team. Think about the last few guys that we’ve signed to larger contracts: Colledge, Snyder, Stewart Bradley. These guys have been totally underwhelming. The pick-ups that have been most effective were the low-risk, low-reward signings, a la William Gay, Paris Lenon, Jeff King. (Note: I think that the Kerry Rhodes signing was a great one).

    I hope that Keim focuses on building this team through the draft. Unfortunately, we have holes across the board: safety, pass-rushing OLB, ILB, left-tackle, guard, running back. I’d love to see us trade down for a second 2nd rounder (maybe with Miami) and perhaps still be able to land a guy like Warmack or Jonathan Cooper or Ziggy Ansah.

  38. By NYCardinals212 on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    Rich: “Snyder . . . he may be a better center than Sendlein. Don’t be surprised if Sendleing is gone before the season starts.”

    I would be VERY surprised if Lyle Sendlein wasn’t the starting center. To me, it would be more of a shock than Adrian Wilson being cut. “Snyder better than Sendlein”, I could not disagree more.

  39. By cardinalchris on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    iammattyoung – Rhodes was traded here for a fourth round pick – great Trade!! offset by a bad trade of Q to Baltimore. Might even be worth comparing to the Rob Moore trade.

    Darren, what is the cap hit from Snyder if he stays on the team? As much as I’d like to see him cut, I’d like to see him play center some – looked pretty good there last year in a short time period.

    Darren, any updates on injured player recoveries? Sendlein, Levi, Beanie, R Williams ??

  40. By Darren Urban on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    cardinalchris —

    RE: Snyder/injuries

    All the injured players continue to rehab. They are on schedule for offseason work.

    As for Snyder, he is a $4 million cap hit whether he is cut or stays on the roster.

  41. By NYCardinals212 on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply


    Regarding Wells, Stephens-Howling, and Williams, they are separate situations. Wells and Williams are under contract, and they are cheap. There is no need to cut them. LaRod would need a new contract. He’ll probably test the free agent market to gauge his price (as well as allowing the Cardinals to see what other teams think).

    It’s not about one over the other. It’s about having options for a new coaching staff.

  42. By Coach Kevin on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    Hey John the Draft guy, yes, I am beating the drums for Matt Scott because I see something in him. If any coaching staff can coach him up it’s Tom Moore and B.A. But I also like EJ Manuel or Tyler Bray in round two. I do not like Geno Smith in round one with the #7 pick. That is way too high for Geno. Frankly, Manuel, Bray and Scott have better arms in my opinion. Geno is a second round guy in my opinion.

  43. By cardsalltheway on Mar 10, 2013 | Reply

    Just say “cut Kolb” and watch your thumb go down. Oh and BTW, cut Kolb! I like the Safety out of Univ. of Iowa – Micah Hyde(see video and Combine numbers) in the 4th round to replace A. Wilson.

  44. By monzz on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Cut Kolb and get a real QB

  45. By Christo on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    We’ll be dealing with the negative efects of Graves’ contracts for a couple seasons yet.

    Kolb, Levi, and frankly Larry all need to be reduced. Not restructured, reduced. No point having skill players like Larry at $15M + per year when we are so far away from being competitive.

    King can be cut.

    Next year we can gas the rest of the terrible OL contracts.

  46. By Patrick Eagan on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    early doucet stunk anyway.

  47. By wonderingwhy on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Darren,
    I am wondering how Keim is one of the best talent evaluators in the NFL. We have had some bad picks over the years nd FA pickups? If he is the best I would hate to see the worst. KOLB, Beanie, Leinhardt? We missed Kapernick, Russell Wilson, Adrian Peterson? Forgive my ignorance but how much of this falls on his shoulders vs the HC coach and his staff? This is not to say that I would be any better at it than him because if that was true I may be in the NFL evaluating people.

  48. By Marcelof on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Everybody knows last year’s Cardinals offense was a complete disaster at all levels, Besides having the weakest O.line (imo) in the league, the attack was pretty much predictable, horrible playcalling.

    adding G. Smith will do wonders for this Offense, considering Arians can coach him up.

    That’s why I thing Arizona had better address offensive tackles during FA, If you want to create an NFL caliber QB, give him time and space to grow, there’s no way to teach a guy how to swim during a Tsunami

  49. By D on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Synder will stay on the roster, maybe backup or maybe as the Center.
    AZ should bring in Larry Grant from SF, he could be a good LB to replace Lennon and he is in town working out in Chandler, could save $ on flight….

  50. By Mike Ellingboe on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    @JTDG and Coach Kevin,

    Good convo about Matt Scott, the only thing to add is I’d be on-board with drafting Scott if Arians would open his mind to installing the pistol, or at least a variation of it. I don’t know how well he’d fit in a straight vertical offense, but if used properly (and behind a rebuilt OL) I think he’d be a steal.

    Having said that, with things being the way they appear I can’t see him being targeted by us.

  51. By cobra on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply


    Re: Micah Hyde,

    I checked out the link on him, seems like a good prospect. Reminds me a lot of Bethel. Either way, we’re down 1 safety and maybe 2 if Johnson doesn’t resign. Something has to give in FA or the draft. Kolb, anymore, who the hell knows? QB is all over the place. I’m to the point, whatever, as long as we don’t spend our 1st round pick on QB.

  52. By Cactus Jeff on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Good news! Seattle traded for Percy Harvin and gave up draft picks. We all know by listening to media and Cardinal brass, in NFL you build through the draft. This really hurts the Seahawks. Calling to get my season tickets. Pressure off Cardinals in FA. Now if Niners trade draft picks for Reevis Cardinals will win NFC West!

  53. By Don W on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Cactus Jeff…No need to worry about Rvis, they just traded for A. Boldin. No way will win one game in our division this year. I’m depressed!

  54. By Eazy E on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Finally maybe some positivity coming out of the desert because I’ve been pissed off for the last few days with them with A-Wil unceremoniously being cut when he had a good season and was one of the leaders on a great defense and 2nd in picks and 5th overall in pass d. Early getting cut probably because of poor QB play eating his numbers up. Sean Smith I really like 6’3 214, 215 pounds physical and can run, I liken him to Sherman in Seattle he’s not as good yet, but he can be. Reggie proved he can be an every down RB in Miami. Running in between the tackles and of course outside, great hands catching the ball, and blitz pickup is much better. Darren, you gotta pay more attention?! Cribbs would also be a nice addition for us to replace the aforementioned Early unfortunately. Great Return Man and can play Offense, he needs more touches. Saying all this though, I’ll believe it when I see it with Arizona…

  55. By Mike Ellingboe on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Coach Kevin,

    I do have to respectfully disagree with your assessment of Geno Smith, if there’s a guy who can run Arians’ offense it’s him. The game that proved it to me was the 2011 LSU game. That team had as good a pass defense as any in recent memory (Matthieu, Claiborne, Reid in the secondary, Brockers and Montgomery up front, even Mingo was a back-up on that loaded defense). Nobody got anywhere near 300 yards passing against them (very few even broke 200, most were at embarrassingly low numbers), a schedule that included eventual national champion Alabama, who wouldn’t throw down the field, in either game; Oregon, and their vaunted read-option; Arkansas, with Petrino, Wilson and a full roster; Georgia and Andy Murray, etc. Point being, a very hard team to throw against.

    Geno put up 463 with completely inferior talent around him, with two TD’s (one a strike that very few college QB’s could even attempt, much less complete). His two picks weren’t cause for concern (one bounced off Tavon Austin’s shoulder pad and the other an unusually good play by Mathieu). He showed excellent pocket presence and continually kept his eyes downfield. To have nearly 60% completion rate, across 65 attempts, no less, against that competition, out of the gun with no threat of a running game, with a bunch of undersized receivers, very impressive.

    If we’re going to continue with the same style of offense we’ve been using, I’d feel much better about him running it than anyone else available.

  56. By D on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Today is the day when AZ needs to lock up Toler and R Johnson before the crazyness of tomorrow starts….I would think Toler would be a lower cost than a S. Smith or K. Lewis..some names on the market at CB

    Can’t believe they would release Adub before getting something done with Johnson…AZ has no leverage with him….

  57. By clssylssy on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    From what I understand, if we don’t cut Kolb by the 17th we will owe him a $2M roster bonus PLUS a $500,000 “workout bonus”??? and would still have time to decide if we are going to keep him for the remaining $9+M. By cutting him it would cut his cap number from $13.5M to $6M give the Cards +$7.5M. In other words we will pay him $2M just to be on the roster and another half million to workout…money we could have paid Adrian Wilson, who has given us more plays, has been more of an asset who we still could use. Who makes these decisions? Do all “marquis players” get a $500,000 workout bonus and what about the other guys on the team? I understand that this is probably figured into the Salary Cap operating expenses but when we are in the shape we’re in it seems this is a pretty healthy “bonus” to do something that should be in the job description of a professional athlete. With Harvin going to Seattle, the 9ers owning the draft, it’s kinda hard to see hope from the depths of Hell !

  58. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Cactus Jeff;

    Now that is how you use sarcasm folks.

  59. By leeroyjenkins24 on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Omg people are even mentioning gettin rid of Fitz. How can u even call yourself a cards fan and say that? We are an offense line away from competing, that is all we need. We can win with our defense. We can win with Kolb. We can win with everything but our offensive line. No team can win with this line! Snyder is complete junk. Colledge is so overpaid it’s ridiculous. Joeckel, Fisher or Warmack in the 1st round or I am pissed.

  60. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Mike Ellingboe,

    Yes, i’m not saying he is my guy. There are some red flags, especially after Denard Robinson was a star in the system and now is a slot WR.

    I am hoping we draft a QB much earlier than that. But if we grab a guy like Manual or Geno, he would be a nice backup and interesting prospect. Then down the line, maybe we could pull a Eagles or Patriots move and trade him for an early pick to someone. Wouldn’t that be nice?

    I have usually zeroed in on one or two QBs in a draft in the pass. Trade up for Tannehill, Trade down for Ponder as a late 1, Trade up for Freeman, ect, but I cant get a grip on this year. Geno, EJ, Jones and Wilson, Glennon or Bray. All these guys could be stars or bust. I want to jump on someones bandwagon and bang the table for him, but it is tough.

    When the games ended in College, I liked Landry Jones the most. Geno has been everyones top QB, EJ has Mayock pushing him up to #2 after he watched something other than the Florida game. Wilson is secretly gaining steam and when Arians said his #1 thing he looks at for a QB is toughness and smarts #2, I start thinking Wilson should be the guy.

    I watch games not tape. I hope these guys locked in a room full of game tape can figure it out because this is by far the most wishy-washy I have been. I think the further from the games we get and all the talking heads jump in, the more it gets clouded. Looking at all that, I should be banging the table for Landry Jones in round two. He was the guy who caught my eye when games were being played.

    I just know we dont have a starting QB on the team now and we need one.

  61. By Dynosoar on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Cobra, Darren,

    Yes! But then again. I think theres lots of pros, but the cons… I’m just not sure, but I think…no. Well that settles it, I’m just can’t make up my mind about having an undecided thumb. (Please give me a thumbs up, unless you don’t agree, but …)


  62. By clssylssy on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Whoa! Just heard that Boldin was traded to the 9ers…damn! I’m starting to have a new respect for the 9ers who I’ve hated all my life! Well…that was OUR BAD!

  63. By Corgon on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    The Quan is in the house again. Unfortunately this isn’t so good for us. He became a 9er.

  64. By Darren on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    BOLDIN TO NINERS FOR A SIXTH ROUND PICK? You got to be kiddin me? Can Goodell squash that? reminds me of the Gasol to lakers.

  65. By D on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    SF and Seattle are adding impact players…while AZ is creating more holes on their roster….sure is helping me make a decision on my renewal of season tickets….

  66. By Ottis Anderson Fan on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Boldin just got traded to San Francisco. Division is getting even tougher by the hour. Too bad Whiz and Graves and their “Status Quo” philosophy set this team back so many years.

  67. By Andy Kw on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    The dumbest trade I have ever seen: The Ravens traded one of the most talented receivers in the NFL Anquan Boldin for a 6th round pick from San Francisco. Good trade for San Francisco but bad trade for the Ravens. Seattle doesn’t even need an explosive wide receiver with the talent Russell Wilson has. Seattle and Baltimore made some pretty dumb mistakes.

    I am sad to see Beanie Wells leave, I rather see Ryan Williams go than see him go. Good luck with the rest of your career Beanie Wells. To all of you Beanie Wells haters, at least give the man some respect as he did what he could to bring this team to success. He still had 5TDs even with his months of injuries.

  68. By Safety Guy on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Any idea if Kolb is even healthy from his injury, or is all that not to be discussed?

  69. By Darren Urban on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    Safety —

    RE: Kolb

    Last time I talked to him, he said he would be OK for the offseason.

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  71. By Mike Ellingboe on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Andy Kw,

    “Seattle doesn’t even need an explosive wide receiver with the talent Russell Wilson has. Seattle and Baltimore made some pretty dumb mistakes.”

    Here’s hoping you end up being prophetic about this, and Harvin takes all his baggage with him to Seattle. However, I think a betting man would just about be all in on Seattle right now. Adding Harvin to that offense? Scary.

  72. By ored on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    9ers give up a measly 6 rounder,wtf ravens,was that just a sign of disrespect or what…meanwhile seattle just gave up some serious picks for harvin,,.and we’re still spectating,which i’m ok with as long as we make 1 quality move.

    i know sometime addition by subtraction is a good thing but you still need to replace those faces you cut,that said it would be nice to get a “premium” player,in the past we paid good money for average players,try for once to pay a little more for the cream of the crop,even if it’s just 1 splash move at least it secures a need with a proven,top notch player.

    but this is still just the prelude,,,the draft is where we need to nail it,so do all the trades and free agency stuff with one purpose in mind,it’s all about the draft,the others are just fillers.

    for just once,well maybe a few times,i would like us to be on 9ers side of a trade,,,we get hosed so often our motto is rinse and repeat,why can’t we have a zillion draft picks and then trade a lowly 6 rndr for a boldin quality player.we have sucked more and longer at times than them,where is the karma,we get tossed a bone 1 time going to sb,then back to whatever it is we are and they are becoming a jugger whatever.

    keim,your moment to shine is quickly approaching,make hay while the sun shines…would everyone please rub his dome for luck everytime he is out and about.

  73. By clssylssy on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    The Ravens not only got a 6th round pick for Q but they couldn’t pay him the $5M and the 9ers could. Now Ed Reed has himself an agent and may end up with the 9ers too. I guess the Ravens thought they needed Ellerbee more since losing Ray Lewis and they have Torey Smith so they might be able to pick up someone for less money than Q. They have their franchise QB. Q will probably get another ring with the 9ers and the other Harbaugh brother this year. Good for Q! I’ve hate the 9ers all my life but they are starting to actually impress and I’ll enjoy seeing them pound the Seachickens into the dirt! Ok, Keim…you’re up…let’s see you top that!

  74. By ored on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    one more thing sucks…boldin now probably gets multiple rings and fitz probably none,not bemoaning the fact boldin got(gets) his,but the fact that fitz,the ultimate teammate gets none.larry makes twice the money but no ring,hard to feel satisfaction there.even between the two of them,they must see some irony.

    so what next 9ers,expecting us to trade pp for a handful of picks?don’t think that’s gonna happen,but you could always pick up beanie,resurrect him and rub our faces in it.that would have everyone searching for hidden skeletons (not that one) in the closet to purge bad karma.

  75. By cobra on Mar 11, 2013 | Reply

    always a thumb up for you. You always have a positive attitude.

  76. By monzz on Mar 12, 2013 | Reply

    I love you Beanie Chris Wells! I hope the mighty Green Bay Packers pick you up!

  77. By TruCard on Mar 12, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Darren. What are the chances of Ryan Fitzpatrick coming to the desert? I’m sure he would love to be home. Also, thoughts on Mendenhall and Bush?

  78. By Darren Urban on Mar 12, 2013 | Reply

    TruCard —

    RE: Questions

    I don’t see Fitzpatrick but we will see. Mendenhall is visiting.

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