Looking at young players is just that

Posted by Darren Urban on October 21, 2013 – 1:03 pm

There will be no changes to the lineup this week, Bruce Arians said. Yes, he mentioned Bobby Massie possibly playing and looking at young players, but Arians clarified that looking at those players was all he was doing. He wants to make sure they are making progress and “really are the depth we’re looking for,” Arians said.

“It’s just a matter of opportunities in case one arises,” Arians added.

Opportunities, Arians said, come in the form of injuries, mostly. Those included under the microscope, according to the coach: The entire practice squad, along with guard Earl Watford, linebacker Dontay Moch, and tight end D.C. Jefferson. It’s clear the Cards continue to look at tight ends — Arians mentioned practice squad tight end Daniel Fells by name. But unless, for instance, Colledge is down this week because of his back problem (and Watford is currently running as Colledge’s backup), don’t expect an overhaul.

— Colledge (back), WR Brittan Golden (hamstring) and LB Matt Shaughnessy (looked like his leg was wrapped) were sidelined during the open part of Monday’s practice. There is no injury report before Wednesday, but Arians said there were no injury surprises today. He also said the Cards eased off on certain veterans who were hurting.

— The Falcons are expected to get running back Steven Jackson back from practice this week too, although he has missed so much time there is no guarantee he’ll be ready to play Sunday.

— LB Marcus Benard missed practice because he was out of town for the birth of his child. “I congratulate him on that,” Arians said. Arians added Benard played well. Benard started Thursday, although he only played 11 of 67 defensive snaps.

— Wide receiver Michael Floyd reiterated that the entire offense needs to shoulder the blame for its problems, and Arians repeated the same thing when asked about the issues of quarterback Carson Palmer. “I think Carson’s problem is, some are hit and some are the 10 guys around him,” Arians said. “It’s not just the line. It’s the receivers being in the wrong spots and running the wrong routes and not being in their reception areas, and then again the protection.”

— The three biggest injuries announced in the NFL today all impact the Cardinals and their home schedule. The Texans (visit Nov. 10) lost linebacker Brian Cushing for the season, the Colts (visit Nov. 24) lost wide receiver Reggie Wayne for the season, and the Rams (visit Dec. 8) lost quarterback Sam Bradford for the season.



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21 Responses to “Looking at young players is just that”

  1. By D on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    I know this sounds like a broken record, but in this spring’s draft, the top two rounds for AZ needs to be a Left Tackle and a future QB.
    This team can’t afford to give up draft picks for the latest vet player rumor trade options for teams by the trade deadline.
    The good news is that this college draft is really deep at Left Tackle and at QB. Plus, with young players on the roster as Pass Rushers, M. Benard, D. Moch, Okafor, Acho this team doesn’t need to take that top 10 pass rusher in the draft. (doubtful AZ will be drafting in top 10, probably around 12-15 range)
    Imagine having a line next year with both a first round draft picks at Left Tackle and Left G to go with Lyle S at Center and hopefully a improving Watford and Massie on the right side. That would be a young but talented line for many years, something this team has never had here in AZ

  2. By azqfan on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    I for ONE hope that Arians will start hammering Palmer for trying to force the ball to Fitz. It never works, especially now that he is hurt. Throw to the open guy, or throw it away, period. If Fitz is “always open” like so many people here think, he would have caught Palmer’s first INT the other day. He always USED to high point the ball, fight for it and get it. Of course he never used to fumble either. I am not blaming Fitz for everything, but his play this year does in NO WAY justify his enormous contract, and probably never will again. At least he used to produce even with crappy qb’s.

  3. By Mr Robles on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Darren will Kurt Warner be considered in the Ring of Honor?

  4. By Darren Urban on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    Mr Robles —

    RE: ROH

    At some point, I think he could be considered for it, yes.

  5. By horsepedlr on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    they need to sit fitz, let him heal up. also it forces palmer to throw to other recievers and ba to use them. sit mendenhall ba lobbied for him so that won’t happen. shades of buddy ryan and wiz

  6. By JR on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    At some point the offensive coaches need to take some responsibility. At this stage of the season, it is unacceptable that the quarterback and the receivers are not on the same page. They can’t just keep blaming the players. We are what we are. The coach either needs to change the quarterback or start calling some plays that our offensive unit can actually do. They also need to reclaim Kerry Taylor. He can catch the ball and get open, and he is on the same page as Palmer, or at least that is what he has shown.

  7. By EDijkstra on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    I’m very unhappy with Palmer’s comments about the three upcoming “winnable” games (and he mentioned the teams by name). For one thing, it is bulletin board material for the other teams, and Palmer knows that. For another, it suggests to his own team that some games are not winnable.

    Why would Palmer say this, when he knows better? I suspect he is afraid for his job and is saying to the coaches: “Hey, I couldn’t beat San Fran and Seattle, but leave me in and we’ve got a chance in the next three games.” So, I think it is self-serving and definitely not a move that benefits the team.

    As far as I am concerned, we have seen enough of Palmer. I will concede that he might offer the best chance to win, but I hardly care when I can’t root for the man, and don’t think he is much of a solution at QB. I would rather see what Stanton and Lindley can do, in preparation for the draft.

    Speaking of the draft, I have seen Oregon State’s quarterback Sean Mannion for several games, and am very impressed. He is big, and he throws hard and accurately, and makes good decisions quickly. His stats ( speak for themselves, though the team hasn’t played the best Pac-12 competition yet. He is a Junior, and Oregon State runs a pro-style offense. He mostly throws to Brandin Cooks, whose numbers are correspondingly gaudy.

  8. By Dynosoar on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    Sun Tzu in the Art of War teaches if an instruction is given and not understood and therefore not followed it’s the fault of the general. If an instruction is give and understood and still not followed it’s the fault of the underofficers (discipline).

    The question that none of us not on the practice field can answer (so I don’t expect an answer) are the instructions understood? If so the fault is with a coach or QB, if understood and routes are still blown the fault is the players.

    I don’t know so I won’t point fingers (and it’s not really in my nature to point fingers anyway). So when someone states “when will the coaching staff take responsibility?” Perhaps they have been clear and the fault really is not with them. Perhaps it is, I wish I knew, but I don’t, so in the meantime I’ll just keep believing and hoping they’ll all get it together and outscore our opponents.

    (Is anyone in San Francisco wishing they’d kept Alex Smith? 7-0 is really sweet. I’m hoping we can right our season and be their first loss, in the Super Bowl. I know it’s a long shot, but I’m a Cardinals fan from the 70’s, I can handle a long shot.)

    Cardinals for life and beyond!

  9. By Wnycardfan on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    Well whatever the coaches do, there is one thing we all know and that is something has to change, on OFF that is. I cannot comprehend why there isn’t more understanding of the play book. Even the players are saying it. So what gives? Regardless, someone more than one actually, better start getting on same page. They are driving towards a sub 500 record right now. I hope they aren’t an embarrassment this year.

  10. By georgiebird on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    BA’s comments make for a very sorry scenario for the Cards. Not only are the Cards a mediocre team but there is no Plan B at this time. There are no up and coming players to take up the slack and give the team a jump start. To use a baseball analogy there is no Michael Wacha, or Carlos Martinez or Matt Adams to give the team a boost and continue the process of new guys getting a chance and delivering.
    In a better World, Ryan Williams would have a 150 yard game, and Drew Stanton would surprise and Kevin Minter would have 2 sacks.
    But if this is time for uplifting thoughts, let me get back to my World Series preparation.

  11. By Canadian Redbird on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    For the young o linemen how about they watch some footage of Cardinal great Conrad Dobler, a dose of nastiness and playing with some edge might help Goodman’s soldiers in the trenches.

    Looking forward to seeing what Watford and Massie can do this weekend against the Falcons.

  12. By Coach K on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    Carson Palmer may be our best option at quarterback for now, but if our line cannot pick up their game, we need to see what a more mobile Stanton could do. I remember Stanton was always in the wrong place at the wrong time and never really had an opportunity to shine, until he got a starting shot in Detroit and played extremely well.

  13. By Coach K on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    I don’t understand all the negative comments about Mendenhall. From what I see, he is running hard and slashing and spinning to gain every yard he can. He is clearly our best back behind a very average offensive line. The other kid is great, but he’s more of a scat back, change of pace guy. Mendenhall pounds the rock and fights for every yard, even if he has to run backwards. Just a tough, hard nosed runner. Say what you want, I think Mendy is gold.

  14. By cardsalltheway on Oct 21, 2013 | Reply

    Here is an innovative thought on “young,” try finding OL talent currently on the team before being forced to play somebody due to injury(Massie was on the team before Bradley Sowell). D.J. Fluker had to move over to the left side of the line. King Dunlap had to leave the game with another concussion and his backup Mike Remmers injured his leg soon after that.

    Vote Rookie of the Week

    D.J. Fluker, San Diego Chargers

    Fluker switched from right to left tackle during the game and helped block for an offense that set Chargers’ season highs with 158 rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns in a 24-6 victory against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

    Don’t tell me D.J. Fluker is better than Massie!

  15. By Chris on Oct 22, 2013 | Reply

    Hey Darren. With the surprising cuts by the Texans (I think) u heard any rumors about Sam Montgomery / Jefferson picked up by the Cards? BA knows how to deal with problematic young men and they would provide some real pass rush talent.

    Montgomery could be helped with the LSU connection.

    Any romours?

  16. By Darren Urban on Oct 22, 2013 | Reply

    Chris —

    RE: Montgomery

    Guys who had red flags off the field coming out of school and then gets cut midway through their rookie year for off-the-field issues? I’ll pass. You have to be careful of how many of those guys you collect.

  17. By Corgon on Oct 22, 2013 | Reply

    yeah, yeah, yeah….and Levi is an elite LT.
    So now the WRs has to take the blame. Palmer is really inaccurate under pressure. The called plays are too long. The wall is still weak.

    Horse, water, drink…..

    I think Warner was just lucky every time when he thrown the ball to Larry. Come on BA, you can do better! Call better plays! 3 passing plays on the 5th yrd line and a FG? At least try for the 4th as well. 1st and run in the middle with Rashad for 1-2 yards over and over? How varied.

  18. By red bird of death! on Oct 22, 2013 | Reply

    Ok if Palmer throws more than 2 pics in the next game he’s out ……………Stanton’s number is up, I honestly believe he knows the system better and will get rid of the ball faster.Anyone else agree????????????

  19. By Kevin S Mesa on Oct 22, 2013 | Reply

    EDijkstra —

    I don’t think there’s anything wrong with saying you have some winnable games coming up. The guys on NFL Network made a big deal about it too; to me, it was just the media trying to blow something out of proportion. Maybe it’s “bulletin board fodder” but honestly, these are professional football players. They are supposed to play hard every game. It’s not like Palmer guaranteed victory or called out specific players or anything. I really don’t think the guys on Atlanta, Houston or Jacksonville are going to play any harder because they are going up against the Cardinals.

  20. By awesomest on Oct 22, 2013 | Reply

    i think we need to overhaul rod graves and whiz mistakes.
    we started with levi.
    next we need to cut or trade.

    darnell docket $7,700,000
    calias campbell 8,750,000
    mendenhall $2,500,000
    roberts $1,504,050
    thats 19 million plus what we have now.

    we need 3 good receivers not 2. we sigh a 75 catch guy in free agency. we need older receivers with a new system

    we can get a better deal in fa period to replace docket and Campbell for the price of one of them this yr.

    we need a real strong saftey (draft)
    we can get a tackle in free agency or the draft. we can also draft a real rb. and sign another.

    problem solved by next summer

  21. By ored on Oct 22, 2013 | Reply

    awesomeNOT,maybe we could get dd replacement or draft someone,replacing CC,not happening,get the line up to snuff,then see what mendenhall brings or if a rookie can do,roberts is worth his contract,agree with LT in free agency,not the draft,we need a LT now.coming draft is too good to miss on a future QB,also time to look at TE.if we stay pat on cornerback,then look at a top safety.ideal is to fix o-line,add stud TE and speed reciever.hate to even say this,but fitzs contract will be a problem,hopefully we breakthru next year and can justify it.

    right now biggest unknown is who do we pick at QB,we have good players and enough options at other positions,but we need a franchise qb and this year is loaded at the position,may not get the pick of the litter but should’nt be the runt either,unless see something we like.

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