On comp picks and TD “dunks”

Posted by Darren Urban on March 25, 2014 – 11:03 am

A few things as the owners meetings continue in Florida and things around the Cardinals’ Tempe complex have slowed down considerably:

— The Cardinals, as expected, did not receive a compensatory draft pick, meaning they still have six selections in May’s draft (the seventh round pick went to Oakland in the Carson Palmer trade.) The first three picks are No. 20, No. 52 and No. 84 overall. It is not surprising the Cards didn’t get any comp picks.

A quick review: Teams get comp picks based on a formula that starts with the free agents signed and free agents lost from the previous offseason. Included in the NFL’s secret formula are the size of the contracts signed by those players and various honors they earn that season. So the comp picks for the 2014 draft are based on the 2013 offseason, and so forth. If you come out “negatively” in the formula and seem to have lost more than you gained in free agency, you get as many as four extra comp picks. Those picks can come at the end of the third round at the earliest and cannot be traded.

Looking ahead, there will be a chance the Cards could come up with a comp pick next year. It’ll depend on the rest of the offseason and what all these players do. Something to keep in mind: Only true free agents — those whose contracts expired — count in the formula. That means the Cards’ signings of tight end John Carlson and cornerback Antonio Cromartie will not hurt them because those players were free because they were released, not because their contracts ran out. On the flip side, if Daryn Colledge signs somewhere, he won’t help the cause.

So for those scoring at home, the Cards (in comp pick math) have added Jared Veldheer, Ted Ginn, Ted Larsen and Jonathan Dwyer. They have lost Karlos Dansby, Andre Roberts, Javier Arenas, Antoine Cason and Jim Dray. Veldheer signed a pricey contract, but so did Dansby and Roberts. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

— The NFL will be tweaking a few rules. The biggest one is outlawing the dunk of the football on the goalpost. There’s been a lot of blowback on this, but truthfully, as soon as Jimmy Graham bent the crossbar last season and delayed a game while it was fixed, you knew it was a matter of time before the NFL said no more.

Also coming is the ability for a central replay booth based in New York to begin video replays before a referee even gets under the hood, hopefully to speed up the process and to let the official know for what exactly to be looking. The referee on-site will still make the final call.



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23 Responses to “On comp picks and TD “dunks””

  1. By BeastMode on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    Hey Darren what are BA’s views on Eric Ebron who scouts are comparing Jimmy Graham? He’s not exactly a blocking TE like BA likes but if he drops to 20 and with the philosophy of taking the best player available, do you think we could take him?

  2. By Darren Urban on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    Beast —

    RE: Ebron

    As I have said multiple times I will be stunned if this team takes a tight end in the first round.

  3. By clssylssy on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    Come’n Man! The No Fun League Strikes Again. I read an article that proposed that rather than penalizing players for dunking over the crossbar that consideration was being given to raising it so to make it more unlikely that players would do this which makes more sense. It seems that the NFL doesn’t see that it’s about to reach “critical mass” with all the rule changes, treatment of the fans like terrorist and criminals, while constantly raising prices. With the numerous other professional sports competing for fan dollars the party can only go on for so long before interests wane and consumers move to a more fan friendly market. Everyday there are new changes and more rules making this a game hardly reconizable from the sport I grew up on. Endzone dances etc. and “celebrations” by players is no worse than what the cheerleaders do…it’s all to make the atmosphere more festive and fun!

  4. By Darren Urban on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    Clssy —

    RE: Changes

    And yet, with all the changes, the game is more popular and is making more money than ever. I get that people don’t like some of the changes, but it’s not stopping anyone (you, for example) from watching, is it?

  5. By BirdGang on Mar 29, 2014 | Reply

    It is the NFL people will watch it if they start playing flag football. If you think football is as exciting now then it used to be then by all means retire now, you are going down the wrong career path. They are making more money because they raise prices and throw the NFL brand on anything and everything. Don’t get too hyped up about the NFL making millions of dollars. They raise the price of water but yet we still drink it. Don’t give all the credit to the NFL for it being where it is. The fans are the biggest reason for all the NFL success.

  6. By Darren Urban on Mar 29, 2014 | Reply

    BirdGang —

    RE: Fans

    I don’t disagree they are successful because of the fans. But you are making my point — there are more fans now more than ever.

  7. By Brandon on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    clssylssy –

    In addition – raising the goal posts is a lot more expensive than not allowing players to dunk. And you get essentially the same results. Everybody complains about new rules but like Darren said, the NFL is more popular now than ever.

  8. By Dynosoar on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    Never did like basketball. Haha.

    I liked a classic spike or better yet, Fitz’s tossing of the ball to the ref.

    Some of the celebrations are ludicrous and one wonders if the player was in an altered state of mind when inventing it, while others look beastly gladiatorial.

    Personally, if it doesn’t promote violence, sexual inuendo, gangs or vulgarity, let them do whatever they want. They scored and ever since 2nd grade or so, touchdown celebrations have been a part of all our game.

    The Lambeau Leap is a good one as well.

  9. By Dynosoar on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    Wasn’t there a time in the 80’s when spiking the ball was illegal. Yeah, some rules are dumb. If a player damages the goal post, let him pay for the repairs. Personal responsibility is always more powerful than a new rule.

    I’m smiling broadly remembering some of the TD celebrations I’ve seen. I think Clay Mathews has the best sack celebration (gladiatorial at it’s finest without promoting violence).

    Well, I think this post is a slam du… err, a good one. Please no penalty. Haha.

  10. By Eazy E on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    Are you serious NFL????? This is garbage! Just let the brothas dunk the damn ball. The Jimmy Graham situation happened once to anybody’s knowledge where they delayed the game to fix it. Taking away all the damn fun, it’s a freaking kids game played by grown ass men c’mon for the love of God!

  11. By Eazy E on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    Next will be the N-Word BS… I hope to God not…

  12. By Eazy E on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    The brothas the only ones saying the N-Word and they(mostly whites) are gonna try to penalize us for a word they and they’re ancestors made to degrade us and we switched it up and drowned the evil and poison out of it and use it now as a term of endearment. GTHOH!!!!!

  13. By BeastMode on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    @Eazy E

    Preach brah preach.

  14. By clssylssy on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    Darren…oh you are right in that I haven’t stopped watching but, I have quit spending as much money on stuff like season tickets, merchanadise, travel for away games,etc. I was raised on football, my family is all about football (and I’m talking BIG family) and my dad bought Chiefs season tickets their inaugural season which are still in the family…We love the game, the players and the franchise is the cash cow it is so we have taken the bitter with the sweet. I switched to the Cards when I moved here almost twenty years ago and have PAID gladly to support my team however, my point is that it’s really not as fun anymore for the money, and as we have seen in other professional sports, it’s a competitive some point interest will move on to the newest great thing. Franchises want fans to spend their money and while there is money to be made in televising games the market has to remain high.
    I don’t condone the destruction of property and the Jimmy Graham dunk was more like hanging on the goalpost…a little different than a harmless dunk, that so many others have managed to do without bending the goal post or causing a delay in game (all of which are covered under other penalties). The NFL is kinda like government in adding unnecessary rule/laws/penalties when it’s not necessary and only serves to kill the atmosphere of festivity!

  15. By Dynosoar on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply


    well thought out presentation of your thoughts. Your last paragraph is spot on!

  16. By Coach K on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    The NFL is really getting out of control. They are now in partnership with the government and the military industrial complex. Ever notice how many military recruiting ads are run on game day. I also think the beer commercials are running which is another partnership. Great message to send the young people. You can’t dunk a football, but you can pollute kids with beer commercials and the honor of serving Wall Street. Oh, sorry, I mean, your Country. Just follow the money. The game still survives even with all the political correctness. Thank goodness.

  17. By red c monster on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    I already don’t go to games because of the crazy ticket prices and the belligerently drunk fans. But the NFL’s authoritarian-like attitude lately is really making it a burden to remain passionate about the sport. The MLB and NBA need to take heed of what the NFL is doing. It may soon be the perfect time for them to start pursuing disillusioned football fans. those who think it’s not possible are idiots and need only think back a few decades when baseball used to be known as “America’s Pastime.”

  18. By Chuck 1 on Mar 25, 2014 | Reply

    Eazy E & BeastMode,

    I think that I’m going to start calling my Brothas “HONKY”.
    Of course, that will be a term of endearment and I don’t want anyone except whites to use that term.

  19. By Arkie on Mar 26, 2014 | Reply

    The problem with the J. Graham dunk is that the refs failed to do their job again. Graham and the Saints should have been penalized for delay of game on that dunk. If the refs would have done their job and handle the problem then we would not be talking about it now.

  20. By clssylssy on Mar 26, 2014 | Reply

    When other teams get their compensatory picks in rounds before the “better teams” who are waiting in line because they had more successful seasons, it seems our coaches and players are being penalized for their hard work. While I understand that compensatory picks in theory are meant to “level the playing field”, the current system only rearranges the order for picking. Why not award compensatory picks to be made after the regular rounds are finished to avoid a situation where certain teams are allowed to skim the cream from the top? I am sure you are going to tell me that the Cards have benefited from the current system for draft picks and that is true, it just seems that sometimes these practices need to be revisited as the NFL is constantly changing.
    Just say’n…

  21. By Ken Ken on Mar 27, 2014 | Reply

    Darren Urban: It has stopped me from watching. I stopped around three years ago – haven’t seen a game since and don’t miss it a bit.

  22. By Darren Urban on Mar 27, 2014 | Reply

    Ken Ken —

    RE: Watching

    Yet you find your way on to a blog on an NFL team site, three years after you stopped watching the NFL, and comment? Sorry, I find that incredibly hard to believe.

  23. By Big Ken on Mar 28, 2014 | Reply

    The goal line dunk is just a fad. Outlaw it and the guys will come up with something else some other way to celebrate. Who’s this Ken Ken clown?

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