Palmer the best on third downs

Posted by Darren Urban on November 5, 2014 – 10:13 am

Against the Cowboys, the Cardinals shouldn’t have even been in a third down situation at one point. Quarterback Carson Palmer found Michael Floyd about eight yards downfield on a pass and it looked like Floyd just had to turn upfield and he’d get the two remaining yards needed for a first. Instead he ran back a few yards, and then he fumbled, forcing the Cards into a third down. No matter. Palmer hit Larry Fitzgerald for a 20-yard gain the next play.

The Cardinals’ offense hasn’t been as consistent as Bruce Arians would like, but one area the quarterback has excelled within is third-down passing. The Cardinals converted 9 of 15 third downs in Dallas, and Palmer’s improvement on third downs is Exhibit A why. Palmer currently is the highest rated quarterback on third downs this season, with a passer rating of 129.5, well above that of No. 2 Tony Romo at 122.5. (Andrew Luck, Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers round out the top five.)

Palmer — who has missed three of the Cards’ eight games with his shoulder problem — has completed 42-of-64 third-down passes for 609 yards, eight touchdowns and only one interception.

It’s those last two stats that capture the most attention, and underscore the improvement Palmer has made since last season. In 2013, playing every snap for the Cards, Palmer ended up only 29th in the league in third-down passing, with a passer rating of 77.1. He completed 94-of-163 passes for 1,233 yards, but the other numbers are notable. Last year, Palmer only threw nine touchdowns on third down in 16 games. He also threw nine interceptions.

Obviously, with half a season to go, Palmer can’t afford to slide backward, but he’s been excellent up until this point. The Cardinals were four-of-four in the red zone against the Cowboys, and all four touchdowns came on third down plays. Three were Palmer touchdown passes — only the second time Palmer has thrown three TD passes in a game since coming to Arizona. And his pair of second-quarter TDs showed both sides of Palmer’s abilities on third down.

On a seven-yard touchdown pass to tight end John Carlson, the Cowboys only rushed three and Palmer calmly waited in the pocket until Carlson was able to find a void in the zone coverage. On a 11-yard TD to Jaron Brown, a four-man rush pushed the pocket but Palmer rifled the ball to Brown in between three defenders on a perfectly timed throw. In was third-and-long for both (six needed on the Carlson play, 10 on the Brown play). Palmer made it happen. It’s the kind of third-down production that teams need to win.


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  1. By Patrick Hoog aka Don't Take Losses on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Darren: Noticed a “chop block” call against Sendlein. Not certain but seemed he blocked low oncoming Defender from front by rolling under him, not on back of knees like the dirty play on CC in Denver. Seems obvious, a roll block from front is not as dangerous as the back of knee blind side chop. Did BA comment on this call? Did Sendlein get fined? Was it a correct call?

  2. By Darren Urban on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    DTL —

    RE: Chop

    Arians did not. It was a chop block though — he went low when Floyd already had his hands on the guy. Textbook call. Doesn’t matter where he hit him.

  3. By Patrick Hoog aka Don't Take Losses on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    PS: C. Palmer is an iceman.

  4. By Steve on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Darren: Didn’t Whisenhunt try to trade for Palmer at one time if I remember?

  5. By Darren Urban on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Steve —

    RE: Palmer

    Not that I know of. Maybe they discussed it, but I don’t think it was ever a real possibility.

  6. By Dynosoar on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    I learned something one day while watching Favre, on third down he threw for first downs or touchdowns. Very rarely would he throw a checkdown in this situation and if he did, the runner had room to run. (Sometimes a run play was called, but more often that was only on short yardage).

    I then watched Warner, Roethlesburger (sic), Manning, Brady and a host of others and noticed those who are considered “elite” QBs did the same thing. They would throw for first downs or touchdowns on third down.

    I watched Lienart that next season as well as our entire QB rotation and Skelton was the only one who followed Favre’s example, (unfortunately while he threw for first downs and touchdowns, he was missing receivers, you still have to connect.

    My point, elite QBs who take their teams deep into the playoffs throw for first downs and touchdowns on third down and have (75%+ of the time) a completion percentage greater than 60%.

    Obviously other QBs who don’t do this get teams to the playoffs and a 60% completion percentage is no guarantee, but the odds are much greater to make the playoffs when QBs follow this formula.

    Palmer has become elite, at least in my eyes. He is doing what elite QBs do (except, Favre holds the record for interceptions and Palmer isn’t going for that record anymore. Well, that’s good.)

  7. By krehbieo14 on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Palmer is playing like the first round draft pick he became.

  8. By jwoodaz on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Truly glad we have him until he doesnt want to anymore, of course this a contract year for him…lolz

  9. By MikeFlorio on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Palmer for President. – 2016

    What really stuck out to me and I am sure a lot of other fans is the dropped balls and inconstancy with Carlson.

    How does he look in practice? Is he really more sure handed than Housler?
    I know he had the first TD catch in the Dallas game, but, Palmer has got to be frustrated when he is putting these passes on a rope and sending them to Carlson and he just out right drops these passes.

  10. By mal on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply


    If you get the chance (or the notion), I would like seeing an article by you or Kyle on Carson’s new-found mobility.

    Yeah, QB’s can improve their completion/interception percentages, but he’s actually added a whole new facet to his game. His footwork is so improved — at this age!

    I’ve been amazed several times this year when Carson rolled out and got a completion while on the run.

    It would make a great story. He’s more mobile now than Brady or Manning. What happened? Who’s coaching him? Did he work a bunch on this while his shoulder was lame? Is he going to appear on Dancing with the Stars?

  11. By Darren Urban on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Mal —

    RE: Palmer mobility

    I actually did one earlier in the season:

  12. By LadyBird04 on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    RE: Trading for Palmer – If I remember correctly, the Bengals were not willing to trade Palmer until late in the process and by then we had Kolb. We really didn’t have chance to get him when the Bengals finally decided they would let him be traded. Too bad!

    Palmer has also thrown “td passes” to several players who dropped/missed balls either in the end zone or open to get there untouched. Carlson supposedly has good “hands” but it seems as if he has been using Housler’s hands the last few weeks. Glad he caught the second one in the end-zone this week – finally.

  13. By Scott H on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Good blog, Darren. Palmer HAS been masterful this year. I was not expecting him to be this good and he has my sincerest apologies for my lack of faith. Given that he has never won a playoff game in his NFL career, he and the Arizona Cardinals are shaping up to be a great story for 2014!

  14. By superbowlcards on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    Scott H
    At least you are man enough to admit you were not sure CP was the answer, there were quite a few naysayers on here when the Cardinals first traded for him, I gaurantee not a single one has stepped up and admitted they may have misjudged him, kudos to you.
    When trade talk first started I was skeptical as well, I surely didnt want to throw a high draft pick or two at Oakland (I still believe they gave the Bengals to much for Palmer, especially since the Bengals were in no position to demand to much, it was clear that Palmer was done play for the Bengals) I got to reading about Palmer, he had impressive stats in his short time in Oakland, very impressive considering he had no weapons, and no OLine! My mind was made up real quick that he was our man, now the first half of last year almost drove me to change my mind, hell, I almost jumped on the “haters” bandwagon myself, I never thought an offense could be so difficult to learn, especially for a veteran QB, but with the whole offense struggling at first, (remember, even Fitz struggled, more than most even) then it slowly started to turn for the better, and as a team the offense improved. If Palmer stays another year or two, which Im pretty confident he will, he could be looking at some big time post season awards next year! If he hadnt of missed the 3 games this year, he would have at least been in the talk.

  15. By Marlin on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Agree with Hoog……Palmer is …. “The Ice Man”

  16. By Peterincanada on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Ladybird04 – You are right. The Bengals played hardball with Palmer and he was moved half way through the 2011 season. They were adamant about not entertaining offers before then. After the disaster that was 2010 we desperately needed a qb and couldn’t afford to wait. Kolb seemed like the best option at the time and we saw how he worked out.

  17. By Scott H on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Hoog / Marlin –

    RE: The Ice Man

    Um…if you’ve actually seen that movie – about the real life contract killer for the mob in NJ during the 70’s – I’m not so sure Carson would appreciate the nickname!

    Very good movie, by the way. Not much of a splash in the theaters, but definitely worth trying to find.

  18. By superbowlcards on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    Topgun, the movie, also had “Iceman”. Bet he wouldnt mind if that were the case! haha 🙂

  19. By clssylssy on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Unfortunately, too often a potentially good QB is the victim of a franchise with too many internal issues to allow him to flourish which I believe was Palmers case. Add some experience and maturity with the right coach and you get a winner, such as the case with Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, and Carson Palmer. I have been very pleased with Palmer but didn’t see a huge difference when Stanton had to step in which is more about the coaching and BA, I think, than the QB. This week is going to really be a test to see how much pressure Palmer can handle as we face the Rams who are 2-1 within the division and ESPN predicts will upset the Cards with sack master, Robert Quinn having 8 sacks already. Last week our 0-line looked pretty good at protecting Palmer and his ability to scramble kept our offense alive, but we can have no more dropped passes whether they are poorly thrown balls or an inability to keep control once it’s caught. These division games are always intense, and very often can have an unexpected outcome so Palmer is going to have to be “the ice man” from start to finish and lead like this was a playoff game. The Rams have beaten the Seahawks and the 9ers and we cannot allow them to come into our house and be victorious! Love the “Band of Brothers” spirit that has brought us this far–looking foward to another big TEAM win on Sunday! Let’s sweep the NFC West and win that Division Pennant!

  20. By superbowlcards on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    Won-loss record means nothing when NFC West foes line up to do battle!
    I remember earlier in the year someone commenting (dont think it was on here) how Quinn was a fluke, a one year wonder, how their whole front 7 had done nothing the first few games! Now they are back hitting on all cylanders! You just cant have two monster drafts and not have any improvement, just is not supposed to be that good, that fast !
    Rams front 7 on defense are going to be Cardinals toughest test!

  21. By Dynosoar on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply


    very well written piece and you said it best…

    “Love the “Band of Brothers” spirit that has brought us this far–looking forward to another big TEAM win on Sunday! Let’s sweep the NFC West and win that Division Pennant!”

  22. By Mike G on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Hey Darren–Hope all is cool!– Great to see the Card’s at 7-1 with the big win at Dallas. Long way to go but there are some great things to look at ahead. Palmer has really cut down his turnovers and I think the fact that he is spreading the ball around to a different bunch of guys is really the key in limiting the mistakes. The Cards were 9-15 on third down on the road which is an excellent percentage and shows how this coaching staff and Palmer are developing into a cohesive unit. I think this is a huge game this week–must beat the Rams and Seattle at home–already took care of the 49ers at home. To me you MUST win these HOME division games. Hey Darren—Any best guess as to how many games you think S-Taylor will miss with that calf injury?????

  23. By Darren Urban on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Mike G —

    RE: Taylor

    I do not.

  24. By perry matherne on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    I agree with you darren,but NO qb can afford to go backwards at this part of the saeson.The very thing that coach bruce is way ok with me,for the simple reason that it’s working.I am reading ALL the comments from the fans & some seem to be forggeting one big thing,he’s the COACH & nobody else.If fans can’t accept that,oh well,personally I know he is doing it right,cause look at the end result7 & 1.If we can keep this up & with some help from above,we will ALL have some grins on our faces.

  25. By superbowlcards on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    We all love being Monday Morning QB’s and of course, head coach for the season, and GM year around! That is what makes thse boards so fun and addicting, and it doesn’t cost us are jobs!! That is the best part. 😉

  26. By krehbieo14 on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply


    Re: Carlson

    I saw Carlson perform three times in preseason camp. He was exceptionally good in route running and receiving the ball. The coaches and Palmer were excited and noted his play. I hope he got that Dallas debacle out of his system. He did recover for that one touchdown and that’s a great sign!

  27. By Scott H on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    An interesting something….the local sports talk radio show out here ( Philly area ) had Kurt Warner on as a guest yesterday afternoon. Of course, much of the conversation had to do with the Eagles. So, there was a fair amount of references to the LOSS to the Cardinals and at the end of the interview, they got around to asking Kurt what he thought of his former team and if he believed they were for real. And I must say, I was disappointed in what I heard. Basically, Kurt said he felt like he needed to see “more” from both the team and from Carson Palmer before he was going to buy into the Cardinals. Also said that even though they’re winning games, which is obviously good, he just didn’t see where they were doing anything REALLY well and that was part of the reason why he was not yet seeing the Cardinals as being for real.

    Hey, Kurt is not a Cardinal anymore, he is a national media guy, and he has a job to do. Fine. Got that. I wasn’t expecting him to be rah-rah for the Cardinals because he played here at the end of his career. But…’s not like the Cardinals are 4-3 and struggling with consistency. They’re 7-1 and that is the best damn record in the NFL!!! They just beat the 2 best teams in the NFC in consecutive weeks! C’mon, Kurt – what “more” do you think you need to see??? You could show a little more love than THAT, can’t ya??? Damn, man….

    I love how the Patriots win 4 in a row and suddenly, everybody is back on the Tom Brady bandwagon and just standing in awe of the Patriots again. But the Cardinals win their last 4 ( after winning their first 3 ) to achieve a BETTER record than the Patriots and that gets so much less attention. STILL hearing so many opinions expressing that ( like our boy, Kurt ) that it’s hard to buy into them, they still expect that the Cardinals are not going to sustain this, still not buying into Carson Palmer, blah – blah – blah.

    My, my , my….I guess some people just have to learn the hard way!

  28. By Fan in Chi Town on Nov 5, 2014 | Reply

    Scott H –

    That is disappointing to hear Warner’s lack of respect for what the Cardinals have done. You would think that him being a former player on the least respected super bowl team of all time he would believe in them a little more.

    On the flip side, here in Chicago the Cardinals, but more specifically Arians, are getting quite a bit of love from ESPN radio. It is mostly that they are jealous that the Bears hired Trestman instead of Arians, but they are very complimentary of the team and acknowledge what they’re doing this year.

  29. By freeperjim on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    An article this week was comparing Carson’s season QBR (99.3) to Warner’s best Cardinal season (96.)

    Sounds like ol’ Kurt has some jealousy problems…

    Being an ex-Bengal fan, the AZ is easily the best team & organization CP has been a part of in the NFL.

    Cincy was beyond dysfunctional and promoted a diva receiver (Ocho-Stinko) despite he was incapable of understanding the playbook and running accurate routes resulting in many INTs once his fellow receiver (TJ told him the play) left the team.

    Add the fact Bengals head coach & owner allowed his cancerous attitude, skipping meetings, falling asleep in meetings and other clownish behavior, even Oakland was like heaven to Carson.

    Go Cards!!!

  30. By clssylssy on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    @Scott H…
    You have to remember than Kurt is now in a position where he needs to be objective, and from an unbiased and objective position, as well as, somebody who has played the game (a big part of the Cardinals Superbowl team no less), he is just stating facts that are what we all know really…that some of our wins have been ugly and hard fought and down to the wire. If we were the Rams, would we be saying the same things and questioning if this was going to be the week our luck run out and our safety net of backups failed? You have to remember too, that he knows what Larry is capable of and is unfamiliar with this approach. Even BA says we haven’t played up to our potential and still are making a lot of mistakes so, I don’t think we should be insulted when commentators and fans throughout the league wonder if we’re really doing it right or if we are just lucky sometimes to catch an opponent when vulnerable and capitalizing on their weaknesses. The thing is, that’s what good teams do to win, exploit vulnerabilities in their opponents so, while it may not be exotic, it’s the nuts and bolts of the game more so than long perfect passes
    As for Tom Brady, I think anybody who has played the game loves, that given the time (usually a game or two) he can turn things around in dramatic fashion and he doesn’t need a cast of stars to do it . They game plan in much the same way we are doing, one week/opponent at a time. and exploit weaknesses and mismatches.
    The recognition has been slow in coming to the Cards but we are gradually beginning to get there, so just have to keep doing what we’re doing, gutting it out, and moving forward! CAN’T LET THE RAMS TAKE OVER OUR HOUSE ON SUNDAY! TIME TO SHOW THE WORLD…AGAIN!

  31. By superbowlcards on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    Just to add one side note, I think I would question just how legit the Cardinals are (especially if I was an outsider lookin in.) most fans dont realize just how devistated this team is with all tue injuries! How many teams out there have lost over half of a starting defense going back to last year the list is frightening! Im not going to list them, everyone is well aware of our extensive loses, but this is what makes us serious contenders in my book. Not to mention key offensive losses as well, these are the ones that dont get any press, #1 TE, #2 RB, #7 overall draft pick loses a year of snaps, slow to recover from broken leg. Ta’amu and NEO (Honey Badger’s High School nickname) are back but I think all agree neither is playing 100%

  32. By Peterincanada on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    @Clssylssy, Scott H Personally, I think it is great that the Cards are not getting any adulation from the media. When too much love arrives complacency can arrive with it. I would prefer the respect to arrive when the season ends and until then the us against the world mentality iis just fine.

  33. By superbowlcards on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    I think it is more for the fans, as a longtime supporter of the Cardinals, I know it pisses me off to no end! And when the power rankings came out and we were still #2, I was madder than a wet hornet, for a little while anyway, then the mature realist in me (yes, I do have a tad of maturity, just not a whole hell of alot, especially when football is involved!) took over and I came back down through the hole in my roof that I had just made earlier, realizing those power rankings mean absolutely nothing, just an opinion, and they could actually
    find there way on to the Cardinal bulletin board, and become motivation for the Cardinals!

  34. By Dynosoar on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    Scott H.

    The thumbs are 7-1 on you post regarding Kurt Warner, the same as our Cardinals record. Since I believe we’ll be 8-1 after Sunday afternoon, I’m moving your thumbs accordingly.

    I don’t understand it either, over the last two seasons (1.5 seasons) we are what, 17-7, I don’t know what more the media moguls want… oh yeah, for us to choke.

    Well this team isn’t built to choke so they’re going to be disappointing. Sometimes I think if we won the Super Bowl for two consecutive years there would still be pundits saying “I’m just not ready to buy into these Cardinals. I admit they’ve done some good things, but I just need to see more.”

    Well, when I was growing up the Patriots were the dregs of the league along with us, the Saints and a few other. The Patriots and the Saints have turned that around, so if we don’t like the “I just need to see more” comments, we just need to show them more.

    And We Will.

    We swept the East, now it’s time to continue our sweep of the West. Take 1-0 and turn it into 6-0.

  35. By Dynosoar on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply


    I wish Michael Irvin would be as objective as Kurt Warner. Then again, I love that Irvin’s as loyal as the day is long. Loyalty is a good thing.

    Marching to Home Field advantage in the Super Bowl. Go Cardinals and don’t ease up, not even a little. Win out, only eleven more games to play and eleven more to win.

  36. By LadyBird04 on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    On KTAR yesterday, Warner ADMITTED he would have loved to play in this system with the Coach and receivers (and it’s understood O-line) that Palmer has now. He did say Palmer was playing well. He further said that there wasn’t a “wow” factor to the team but they just keep winning and that fact can’t be debated.

    We have to agree about the “wow” factor as I personally cannot name any player/unit that is playing lights out on every play in every game. This is a complete TEAM and that is the best thing any team could ask for.

  37. By clssylssy on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    Several posters have also made a good point about the recognition we are beginning to receive seems to be more about the coaching staff than the team which begs the question of in what other team in this league is there such a distinction? When Kurt is asked about the Cardinals TEAM, he quite correctly points out there is a lot we still need to accomplish (correcting mental mistakes, inability to capitalize on turnovers, consistency in the offense moving the ball down the field for sustained drives). Whereas, the recognition the Cards are beginning to get, for the most part centers around Bruce Arians or Todd Bowles as miracle workers, potential “Coach of the Year” or future Head Coach prospects. Kurt was not responding to a qustion about “how is BA doing etc.” which is related but still a separate issue. How we stand up against our division rivals will test our metal, both as a team as well as, from a coaching/play caller standpoint. The chess match is about to begin!

  38. By Patrick Hoog aka Don't Take Losses on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    Scott H – hear you, thanks, meant different reference my friend,

    Iceman: meant “an “iceman”, see X-Men, ice in his veins, feels no pressure 😉

    “Iceman (Robert “Bobby” Drake) is a fictional character, a superhero that appears in comic books published by Marvel Comics. He is a founding member of the X-Men. A mutant, Iceman has the ability of cryokinesis where he can freeze anything around him and can also turn his body into ice. Although he is an Omega-level mutant, Drake has yet to tap into his full mutant potential. Over the years he has taken more interest in developing his abilities.”

  39. By clssylssy on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    I have to agree with you that I would rather the accolades come AFTER we are successful in hoisting the Lombardi and that too often complacency sets in when a team begins being proclaimed “the best” etc. prematurely. Somehow, I’m not as worried about this group as, I have been previously (hence my cautious somewhat superstitious appearance) because of BA’s good job at reminding them of that elevator ride, keeping them grounded and their one game at a time mentality.
    I also don’t feel that constructive criticism has anything to do with “loyalty”; as a quality product can only get better when shortcomings are identified and doesn’t collapse under scrutiny.

  40. By Scott H on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    Man, you can’t beat Cardinals fans for out-right general knowledge! Loving all of the different references to any character known as the Ice Man AND background info as a bonus. You can’t get this anywhere else!

    Yes, I know Warner is a national guy now, and I pointed that out in my post. I would not expect him to be anything less than objective. I love the guy, all the same.

    superbowlcards –

    I have no problem owning up to my previous statements. I was pretty hard on Palmer during the first half of last season and I think that was justified at the time. It got better over the 2nd half but then we go into Seattle and we not only have to overcome the Seahawks that day but also OUR OWN QB turning it over 4 times!!! We COULD have won that game by double digits!!!

    Even as recently as Palmer’s injury and Stanton playing very solid in his place, I was still wondering. Since his return, Palmer is playing at a level I was not giving him credit to achieve, A TD – INT ratio of 11-2? Pretty damn sweet! His functional mobility, stepping away from sacks the way he has? Where did THAT come from??? His efficiency on 3rd downs, highlighted by Darren? How important has THAT been? Finding the right place to go with the ball to make the play we need at that time? Masterful.

    I was wrong. And I’ve NEVER been so damn happy to be wrong in my life!

  41. By Scott H on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    And after all that, I JUST saw Kurt Warner on the pre-game show for tonight, responding to the question – Are the Cardinals the best team in the NFL right now? And Kurt says………Yes, they are!

    Kurt rules!

  42. By krehbieo14 on Nov 6, 2014 | Reply

    Go ahead and thumb me down! Why are people justifying the opinions of Kurt Warner? Is his opinion worth more than others because of his Hall of Fame play? Since Arians came to the Cards, Warner’s view has been to subtly diminish the teams play. I don’t think he’s objective at all. He has been biased in his opinion of Palmer’s play and the team in general. He doesn’t see the team doing anything really well? He doesn’t see the “wow” factor. The team Warner led to the Super Bowl in Arizona had few of the weapons this team possesses! He did have one “wow” factor that year in Larry Fitzgerald! Here are my “wows”: Cromartie, Palmer, Ellington, Campbell, Powers, Valdheer, Fitz, Brown etc. I’m not going to embrace Warner’s opinion just because of his fame. I’m not sure what this persistent off-putting attitude is about but I don’t like it. He should only wish to have the privilege to play for our 7-1 team!

  43. By Kevin S Mesa on Nov 7, 2014 | Reply

    I’ve been wrong about a lot of things but I have thought from the beginning that Palmer could be the QB to take us back to the Super Bowl. Don’t get me wrong — I don’t think he’s Peyton Manning — but he’s been solid enough over his career and with our receivers and Ellington and our great D, he’s what we needed.

    Of course I was also a Kolb supporter so that shows what I know.

  44. By Scott H on Nov 7, 2014 | Reply

    krehbeio14 –

    Dude, it’s the middle of the week. Gotta have something to kick around. I thought Warner’s comments were interesting. So I threw it out there.

  45. By krehbieo14 on Nov 7, 2014 | Reply


    I am glad you put your comments out there to kick around. Over the last year, I have heard little that Kurt Warner has said about the Cardinals that impresses me. He ruled as a football player, but not too hot as a commentator.

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