Keim talks Stanton rehab, QB situation

Posted by Darren Urban on December 15, 2014 – 8:14 am

Steve Keim had a way to put things in perspective.

“The three best records in the NFL after the fourteenth game are Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Ryan Lindley/Logan Thomas,” the Cardinals General Manager said Monday morning during his regular appearance on the “Doug and Wolf” show on Arizona Sports 98.7. “It’s a credit to our organization and the job all the way down from Michael Bidwill to Bruce Arians, our coaching staff, our players, they have all done a fantastic job.”

There wasn’t a ton of specific info coming from the GM about his team’s quarterback situation. But he did acknowledge that the Cardinals will be going with some combination of Lindley and Thomas to play against the Seahawks Sunday. The Cards will add a quarterback, but it will be to the practice squad “for emergency purposes.” No, Kurt Warner is not walking through that door. (Which he never was, but I just wanted to use that line. Rick Pitino keeps on giving.)

UPDATE: The practice squad QB is Jeff Mathews, an undrafted rookie from Cornell who spent time earlier with Atlanta and Indianapolis.

Who the starting QB will be is TBA. Keim said simply “that’s a better question for Coach Arians.”

As for the injured Drew Stanton, Keim also sidestepped a timetable, because he said it’s really impossible to give one.

“With that type of knee injury, everybody heals different,” Keim said. “I know ESPN and some other outlets have put a timeline on it, which is extremely difficult to do. You can say it’s going to be four weeks, I’ve heard people say one-and-a-half weeks.

“Drew will be in there around the clock rehabbing. I know he’ll be ready to go as soon as possible.”

Keim reiterated Thomas could get a package of plays for the Seahawks game (that’s was as detailed as he’d get), so again, it sounds like both QBs could see the field. (Or the Cardinals are just building a nice ruse for the Seahawks to worry about during prep work.) Running the ball will be important, which really goes without saying.

“The thing that is extremely difficult to replace at any level is the quarterback,” Keim said. “I’ve said many times, there’s not even 32 quarterbacks to go around (to all the teams), so let alone you lose your starter — and it really hurt us because Carson (Palmer) was playing at a high level — and then you saw what Drew could do when he had the opportunity, which was win games for us and play solid football.

“To lose both those guys, it’s been extremely difficult to go through. But again, it goes back to the resiliency of our team.”

— It was the offensive line’s best game to date, Keim said. Guard Jonathan Cooper is “playing like a rookie” and needs to improve technically quite a bit, but it’s a start, Keim said.

— Keim called defensive end Frostee Rucker “an unsung hero” for his work of late. I’d second that. Rucker has been crucial in his role this season.

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65 Responses to “Keim talks Stanton rehab, QB situation”

  1. By 'ZonaFan on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    We will continue to find a way to win. Playing the Seahawks this week will be like trying to win a fight with both hands tied behind our backs. But it’s not impossible! The toughness factor and sheer determination have taken us this far. Those are traits that the “experts” can’t quantify, which is why our Cardinals continually baffle them when we win each week. It’ll likely take some out-of-the-box strategy to beat Seattle on Sunday night, but with the division and #1 seed at stake, I say we pull out all the stops. Throw in Logan with the Wildcat or Read Option, try to catch them with a couple trick plays, maybe a surprise onside kick or ‘mortar’ kick. And or course take a few deep shots to get some chuck yards. We need our D to bring their best game of the season so far. Let’s do this! Go Cardinals!!!!

  2. By D on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Frostee has been playing great. They will need another good performance from Special Teams this Sunday..and of course more K. Wiliams in the run game..

  3. By Mike G on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Hey Darren–Hope all is well! Really looking forward to this Seattle game. If you said before the season with 2 games left– you have the Super Bowl Champs coming in for the West Title with a game lead–Everyone has to love it and try to seize the moment!!. Cards must give everything they have to win this game. Everyone must be so proud of the Cards to be where they are with all of their injuries. Bottom line in this game– must not turn it over on offense and force a couple from the defense. Must defend home field. Darren—Is this the biggest game at home since that Packer playoff game in 2009?????

  4. By Darren Urban on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Mike G —

    RE: Biggest game

    I think that’s safe to say.

  5. By Eric G on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Definitely a must win for a realistic shot at the Super Bowl. Lose this one and the Cards drop to a wild card spot and will have to play on the road, likely in Seattle AND Green Bay. I don’t like that idea one bit.

    All they have to do is stop Lynch and Wilson from running. I think they can do it. Just need 2-3 good drives and put 17 on the board.

  6. By georgiebird on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Keim is probably right about the technical side of JCoops game. However, Cooper seems to have a “nasty streak” that is definitely needed on our offense. It’s something that Boldin brought to the offense-that has been sorely missing.

  7. By Canadian Redbird on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply


    Great win by the Cards and so much excitement for this Sunday’s game vs. the Hawks. Hope all the bird fans show up and whoop it up for 60 min. So proud of this team.
    Off topic: Do you know anything about Daryl Washington that you could share with us? Is he allowed around the facility/ is he staying in shape/ does HIS plan involve playing next year etc. etc. Hope he and we can find the resolve to get back on track. Hate the thought of him lining up against us, he seemed like a humble dude that just needs to get his life back together.

  8. By Darren Urban on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Canadian —

    RE: Washington

    He is not allowed at the facility. I have not seen him since his suspension started. His future with the team remains TBD.

  9. By Red Dead Redemption on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    I’d probably start Thomas. He has not looked great either. But he has an unknown faction Lindley does not have at all. There is less pro tape on Thomas, and he provides an unknown factor.

    Thomas has some pre-season tape, the Denver game, and college tape. Not even of a sample size really. Whereas Lindley has a handful of starts and is easier to plan against on game day.

    I know Bruce does not like the idea of a quarterback who runs. But I say utilize Thomas’s athletic ability and build the offensive game plan around his skill set. That will probably mean a Wildcat, read option. Call some QB Draws and some screens. But yeah still take your shots in the passing game sure.
    Keep the passing plays limited, and never rely on him reading The Seahawks defense.
    Keep the passing attempts under 20 attempts with Thomas. Use the run to set up some play action, that should open up some chunk plays down field. Between Thomas and our RBs, that would be a three headed beast.
    That forces The Seahawks to stack the box even more so and play man on man. Play action should work. Thomas has a cannon for an arm.

    I’m just saying, with Lindley; you lose the unknown advantage.
    You get a very below average pocket passer, with average arm strength and limited athletic ability.
    The Seahawks will dare him to throw the Football. They know Bruce likes to take his chances regardless who is in there, some picks will most likely happen.

  10. By Ottis Anderson Fan on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    It’s just amazing to me that when you consider the hundred-thousand-or-so youth moving through the ranks of youth football, high school football, college football and the CFL every year, that when it comes time for the NFL, there are only about 5 elite quarterbacks in the entire 32 team league, with the rest being serviceable/average and the majority being poor. Mind-boggling.

  11. By Cliff on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    I am thinking optimistic (as difficult as that is with all our injuries) but the sheer guts this team has shown leads me to believe these guys will do it Sunday! I’ll be there making as much noise as possible!

  12. By Steve on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Darren: Does the emergence of RB Kerwynn Williams this season alter the running back plans going into next year? With Ellington unable to make it through a full season as the lead guy might we see more of committee approach to the position again?

  13. By Darren Urban on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Steve —

    RE: Kerwynn

    I fully expect Williams to be in play for next year. How that comes together we will see.

  14. By MikeFlorio on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Urb- Any info on when Playoff tickets will be available ? And could you get me a field pass ?

  15. By Darren Urban on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Mike —

    RE: Playoff tix

    I would anticipate an announcement on that soon.

  16. By sggrange on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    I think that the “not being allowed at the facility” is a poor choice for someone like Washington who clearly has self control issues…Seems counter intuitive for the NFL (Not a team decision at all) to deprive someone who is struggling, of the support system that may be able to help them (If they choose to be helped of course).

    As to the BIG game?..If a team can run the ball, they have a chance and we have been running really well the last two games…But the odds are steep….One hell of a season regardless of how this goes…But if the Cards. didn’t have bad injury luck, they would have no luck at all.

    My head says this is too much to ask, but my heart says this group are too ornery’ to know when they are supposed to be beat….

    Mike Bidwill, Steve Keim , BA and his staff and these great guys who just WILL NOT QUIT….

    Thanks and look forward to the Cards. being in their second SB…..


  17. By tablaise on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Darren, I know Peter King was joking last night but he mentioned a wishbone. I would love to see a no huddle wishbone package with Williams, Taylor, Hughes. Any chance? lmao.

  18. By Steve on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Darren: I know Kurt Warner isn’t coming out of retirement but he did say that he was up all night the other day pondering playing again for the Cards. Do you think B.A. and the coaches would take him seriously if he informed them that he wanted to give it a shot?

  19. By Darren Urban on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Steve —

    RE: Warner

    Not sure it matters, does it?

  20. By Ben MacDonald on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    I know that Kurt Warner is under contract as a sports analyst, but I cannot think of anyone better to come back to AZ in this crucial time as a ‘consultant’ and offer the 2 young QB’s some tutelage on how to react to different coverage packages, how to make quick decisions [even if it means eating the ball], and how a nobody can be a somebody who helps his team win

  21. By Brad oneill on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    This is familiar territory for us old cards fans. Not being given a chance to win by everyone but seeing that glint of hope. The difference this year is i expect them to win. I fully expect this defense to hand the sea hawks a devestating loss. I expect our offense to capitalize on the emotion of the stadium and the plays they know they can make. This team is about to play its best game of the year and we all know if they win it, they have homefield until the superbowl, if they lose they probably advance past carolina only to face greenbay at lambeau. This game is for a legit shot at the super bowl. Everyone expects to seattle to emerge victorious but one lockerroom that is going to belong to people playkng in the superbowl soon.

  22. By Patrick Hoog aka Don't Take Losses on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Hungry men: Rucker, Kelly, Foote, Fitz, Alexander, they won’t let us squander this opp

  23. By JT on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    This game reminds me of 2010 game when Max Hall started for us against defending SB champion Saints at UPS. We were the underdogs and ended up winning that game. The defense stepped up that game with a TD. Here we are again at home against defending SB seahawks with our “Max Hall” Ryan Lindley or Thomas. I have a feeling history will be repeating itself. Can’t wait for the game. Our running game and defense will win it for us. It will electric again at the stadium. I just BELIEVE.

  24. By truths4all on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Being keenly aware that the QB position is as crucial as any on a team, but as Keim states, there are not even 32 decent starters in the league, why do you not find any front offices cultivating and hiring prospects from the Arena League and guys like Tebow to be a staffer while the team tries to development them into real QB prospects?

    Heck, since there are QB gurus who develop high school and college players during the off-season, why don’t NFL teams hire some of these experts to conduct their own “due diligence” by paying out and investing some dough to have these experts and their team staff (not regular coaching staff but some “scouts” who know what they are doing to determine if any of these prospects can be developed into a legit NFL QB that would fit their current offensive system?

    Sure this would take more time and money, but can anyone argue these NFL teams don’t have the money to protect and ensure their future competitiveness?

  25. By Dynosoar on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    All I can say is this, I don’t want to see any other teams gear in Our locker room on Super Bowl Sunday.

    Until we lose, We Are The Team To Beat.

    I graduated from Farragut High School in Tennessee (outside Knoxville) and our school’s namesake has a perfect quote.

    “Damn the torpedoes (or experts predictions)! Full steam ahead.”

    The Lombardi trophy or nothing at all!

  26. By Patrick Hoog aka Don't Take Losses on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    PS: and a nice play by Leach in STL too. Our “old” guys, hungry.

  27. By Coach K on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply


    I think if they put a package in for Thomas, it will involve the read option and other move the pocket type plays with a run option included. I do not want to see Thomas taking 5 and 7 step drops in the pocket. He is not ready for that yet, but he could be effective in a read option style package. Heck, I like Thomas in a Georgia Tech style wishbone better than in the pocket.

    As for Lindley, I think he will surprise everyone with an outstanding game against Seattle. In 2012 he wasn’t ready. I think he has matured and has an excellent quick release and a calm demeanor in the game. I think B.A. is going to put Lindley into a position to do what he does best and even take a few shots deep as well.

    This will be a defensive struggle early in the game, but I think Lindley will make a big play deep and this will break open the game with Lindley playing at a very high level.

    This could be his coming out party if B.A. designs a package around what Lindley does best and avoids asking him to do too much.

  28. By Dynosoar on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Lindley used to be familiar to us, but he has BA and Moore now and not Whiz. He also has an offensive line and a running game that can produce and more than two star wideouts.

    Brad Oneill, I’m with you. I expect to win out.

    From what Seahawk fans are saying and the “swagger” coming from the Seahawks, this could be a trap game for them. Whether they play like that or not, our team is not treating it as a given one way or the other. They will leave it all on the field the same as they did in St. Louis and if they do that, we will probably win.

    Looking forward to seeing what we can do with our fourth QB of the season.

  29. By Steven Crane on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Is there a 1st round QB who is currently a free agent ready to play in the NFL at this time?

  30. By Dave Chaney on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    What a season it’s been. Prior to this year, the Cards won 11 games in a year 3 times, 1925, 1947 and 1975. Twice they were NFL Champions (’25 and ’47) and in ’75 they were eliminated in the first round of the playoffs. Needless to say, with all the suspensions and injuries this team has gone through, I think this year has to be one of the team’s proudest moments. Time and again players have followed the “next man up” role in fine fashion. You know they will fight hard the last two games and into the playoffs. Two season ago we were considered a basement dweller and an underachieving team/franchise. Here we are with the best record in the NFL and playoff bound. A huge congratulations to all and I think it’s time we kicked Seattle’s butt. GO BIG RED!!

  31. By rdixon50 on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    My wife and I will be on a 12:30 AM flight very early Monday morning to go back east and visit kids and grandkids. But first, we will be at the game Sunday night. Most important game in AZ Cards history – home field throughout the playoffs is at stake.

    The coaches will come up with a fantastic game plan to defeat the Seahawks. We must execute!


  32. By Alberto on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Could you please give some clarification about Stanton’s knee injury? is it a MCL/ACL sprain,like it has been reported initially or a partially torn ACL/MCL like reported on ESPN? There is a big difference between the two types of injury and of course it would change the time frame for Stanton’s comeback.Thank you

  33. By Darren Urban on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Alberto —

    RE: Injury

    The Cardinals are not saying specifics.

  34. By Steve on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    I respect the front office and of course Steve Keim, but if Jonathan Cooper is playing like a rookie how come the 2 games he has started against 2 excellent run defenses that the Cardinals had there best 2 rushing games of the season (with 2 practice squad backs)?

  35. By John The Draft Guy on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    First everyone, Warner doesn’t know this system. So why would he come in and tutor anyone?

    Second, you have Tom Moore and Bruce Arians who were in football before Warner was born. Why do you think Warner would help more than they would?

    As a coach, you can only do so much. Lindley and Thomas are to very bad QBs. They are what we have to work with. Warner coming in won’t fix them.

    I see some calling for Thomas. I guess it is because he is an unknown and Lindley is really bad. But there is a reason Lindley jumped over Thomas. He should have never been drafted.

    We have to run the ball and play amazing defense the rest of the way to have a chance to win. If Lindley can throw for 175 yards and no ints, that will be a good day. Everything else is fantasy.

    The cards can win another 12-6 game this week, but our defense has to do it.

    Reality is, we have nothing at QB and there is no one coming in on a white horse to save us. We will win on defense, special teams, and no turnovers.

    The best thing Lindley can do is hand the ball off, don’t force anything, take sacks if someone isn’t wide open, and then punt. Play field position, and hope the defense can generate some turnovers. Better yet, the defense needs to dial up a couple pick 6’s.

  36. By John The Draft Guy on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply


    Season Ticket holders have already paid for their possible tickets.

    Obviously, if we dont win against Seattle, it is a mute point since it is unlikely we will have a home game though.

  37. By John The Draft Guy on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Steven Crane;

    First round QBs sitting at home;

    Josh Freeman, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow are three.

    Josh Freeman will be too lazy to learn the offense
    Quinn was someone wasting a first round pick on Lindley
    And Tebow?? Well I like Tebow.

    Slow down everyone, he isn’t a good passer. But to run the ball with the read option, a couple of his pattened jump passes to a TE, and trying to wear down Seattle, we could win a nice 12-10 game. It can’t be much worse than what we got.

    Oh yeah, we could get RG3. Oh wait he hasn’t been cut yet. Wait till next year on that one.

    Man I miss Palmer….. Stanton too.

  38. By John The Draft Guy on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply



    Truth is, Aaron Donald beats Cooper to sack Stanton and injured his knee.

    Watch the play again.

    Sendlin is beat and Stanton reads it and would have been able to slide and throw the ball. But Cooper is beat easily and as Stanton slides outside Donald runs him down.

    Cooper is playing like a rookie. Keim would love to sing the praises of his top pick. But, just like the reason Arians couldn’t play him, Keim just can’t say he is playing good when he isn’t.

  39. By vegas4u2012. on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Seahawks..w/them at the top of there game right now..WE THE 12TH MAN!…on the field need to show our true grit..just as our team has & get to UOP & show up all the SEA-CHICKEN FANS…and put them in there place…i live in Las Vegas..but i’m sure of one thing..i will be at the game..and regardless of the outcome of the a-true fan (not a bandwagon jumper just because of this teams record)..I know one thing..from past experience,at the end of the game…I will have no voice left!!!..(U..GO MY FRIENDS)& GO CARDS!!!

  40. By Scott H on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    ‘ZonaFan –

    Fighting with both hands behind our backs??? With OUR defense??? Ha! I think not. With OUR defense, we will have our dukes up and we will be landing some punches.

    I think the defense has long ago adopted the mind-set that THEY have to win the games. That was not necessarily true but since it MAY very well be true NOW, then….they will be ready. They don’t have to switch to another gear for this game. It’s the Seahawks…it’s for the NFC West ( and maybe SO much more )….it’s in our house….and it’s about pride. We heard ALL last week about the Rams D and how great they were. The Cardinals D was over-looked and they clearly did not take kindly to that. They went out and showed that the better defense was wearing red and white. Well….it’s gonna be another week of hearing all about how great the Seahawks are and what their D has been doing over the last month or so, blah, blah, blah. And I think, once again, the Cardinals D will be on a mission to play greater.

    My message to the Cardinals is – DO NOT GO SILENTLY INTO THE GOOD NIGHT. Just keep throwing punches until the final bell rings Whatever the outcome, know that you put everything there was to give on the field. You’ve already made us proud. Go do this for yourselves.

    We Believe!!!!!!

  41. By Chuck 1 on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Please STOP with the Washington posts.
    If I recall correctly, he still has to face an Assault & Battery (or something like that) charge after his suspension ends.
    Enough already.
    He’s damaged goods.

  42. By Chuck 1 on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply


    Right on.
    Thomas isn’t near what Lindley is and that’s saying a lot about Lindley’s ability (or lack of it).
    Unfortunately, Lindley will get schooled next Sunday.
    Defense, Special Teams and no turnovers are the Cards’ only chances for a win.

  43. By MikeFlorio on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Jon TDG

    Stranger things have happened – Like hosting an NFC championship game, who would have thought that????

  44. By TucsonTim on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Already we’re 7-9 pt dogs. I think that is a plus for us.

    My joke about Ginn and the wild cat really wasn’t far off base. It does make much more sense to use Thomas. Bring it on. This coaching staff can figure out the match ups and situations to make it work.

    Lindley throws a great deep ball. He was a stud at San Diego State and IF ONLY he had had this coaching staff, his rookie year could have been totally different. Instead he was thrown to the wolves by an angry head coach in Atlanta when his Roethilsberger wanta be couldn’t complete a pass to a wide open Fitz.

    How many people posted on this board after Docket’s ACL the season is over!? And here we stand with the best record in the NFL and number one seed in the NFC. It wasn’t possible after Washington, Dansby, Abraham, et al. The story in the NFL this year should be about the Cardinals!!! Packers, Patriots, Broncos….ho hum, same old same old.

    BA is the coach of the year, no the decade, no matter how this ends up. Great GM, great coachES, and finally an owner with an understanding that the best path to prosperity is WINNING! GO CARDS

  45. By Richard S on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Jamarcus Russell was a first rounder with a very strong arm and has been keeping himself in shape I hear.

  46. By Scott H on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Dynosaur –

    Good point and one that occurred to me right before I read your post. True, Lindley was the starter on that horrific day in Seattle in 2012 when the Cardinals lost 58-0.

    What has changed? Plenty. Even IF Lindley himself remains quite limited. The team that lost 58-0 was done. The coach was done. There was nothing for these guys to play for. And it showed.

    Whiz is gone, that dead-in -the-water feeling is gone. BA and his guys have brought a whole new attitude. This defense plays with a whole different swagger. BA put this team in the PERFECT mindset before the game in Seattle last year when he responded to being asked about that 58-0 debacle when he basically said Who gives a @$*&? That was last year and this team doesn’t care about last year. AMEN to that. The players took that to heart and came out of Seattle with a win. And keep in mind – they did that EVEN WITH Carson Palmer throwing 4 INT’s. With the defense shutting down everything the Seahawks did on offense, all it took was ONE TD pass for a win. Am I the only one wondering…can Lindley be much worse than that??? Who knows. BUT the point is this – maybe he CAN be as bad as Palmer was on that day and the Cardinals can still win the game.

    Is that perspective helping anyone here???

    I’m not expecting Lindley himself to be magically transformed to something he is not. But he IS taking the field ( at home ) with much more around him to wage this battle with.

    I expect this team to want this game REAL bad and I expect BA to expect nothing less from them than he has all year. And I expect the coaching staff will have them in the right mindset and to have them ready to go. And I mean GO.

  47. By NJAzCardsFan on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    On the available QB’s… no one has mentioned Max Hall…. Is Max out of jail…??? -LOL-

    Personally, I would love to see Kurt suit up… but the results may not be what the fans expected, since he has been out of the game for 5yrs……….

  48. By CreditCard on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    Cardland: I think Arians picked Lindley over Thomas due to limited experience and knowledge of the playbook.

    Playing armchair coach, I would go with Thomas over Lindley, mainly in order to beat Seattle, I think a more athletic QB can get it done. I would drill the notion in Thomas to think run first, and pass only if the target is comically open. Look at Seattle, their game plan with Wilson is to fall back into a pocket, if things are clearly open run around a pinch, then throw. If things are still not open — run and run fast.

    An average, good and great conventional passers, the Seahawks have faced, and know how to defend. They have shown an inability (like most teams) is a crap shoot if they can defend jungle / scramble ball. Thomas fits that bill, is athletic and relatively fast.

    Again, I’m being an armchair GM / coach.

  49. By joannamcgrath on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    John the Draft Guy—Anyone can get beat on one play. Sucks that Stanton got injured on that play, but it happens.

    Cooper has been mostly invisible both games he’s started, can’t see how that’s a bad thing

  50. By Richard S on Dec 15, 2014 | Reply

    150 out of 224 prognosticated correctly. Neutral field ratings. Add 3 points to home team for predicted point differential for next weeks games.
    1 NE(3) 104.92
    2 SEATTLE(1) 100.78
    3 DENVER(4) 99.89
    4 GBAY(16) 98.17
    5 INDY(13) 95.34
    6 RAMS(12) 95.27
    7 ARIZ.(8) 95.19
    8 BALT(17) 94.82
    9 KC(14) 94.46
    10 BUFF(23) 94.43
    11 PHIL(9) 94.22
    12 PITT(11) 94.15
    13 CINCY(5) 93.81
    14 DALLAS(20) 92.74
    15 DETROIT(15) 92.36
    16 MIA(21) 91.39
    17 SANFRAN(2) 91.16
    18 ATL(19) 90.66
    19 SD(10) 90.63
    20 HOUSTON(29) 90.41
    21 NO(6) 90.41
    22 CAROLINA(7) 89.54
    23 MINN(18) 89.08
    24 GIANTS(22) 88.97
    25 CLEVELAND(28) 86.87
    26 TAMPA(25) 84.58
    27 JETS(26) 83.21
    28 CHICAGO(24) 81.89
    29 WASH(30) 81.36
    30 OAK(31) 80.87
    31 JAX(32) 80.26
    32 TENNESEE(27) 77.29

  51. By red bird of death! on Dec 16, 2014 | Reply

    Lets just friggin win out with Lindley……….why not right?

  52. By joannamcgrath on Dec 16, 2014 | Reply

    Creditcard–They seemed to handle Kapernick pretty well on Sunday.

    Starting Lindley is not only the right call, its the only call.


  53. By John The Draft Guy on Dec 16, 2014 | Reply

    joannamcgrath and all my Cooper fans,

    The coach isn’t impressed (he said he wasn’t impressed all year). The GM isn’t impressed (He just said he played like a rookie). He is only playing because of an injury (Remember, he could not beat out our two poor playing guards). The QB is injured because Cooper was beaten easily by a rookie. (Remember Donald is a rookie ).

    The truth hurts. Thumbs down doesn’t change the truth.

    We go into the Seattle game with a guy that is maybe the 100th best QB in the NFL because Cooper didn’t do his job.

    Let me ask you one thing. Our GM, who picks a guy #7 overall and pays him 14.5 million guaranteed, wants his guy to play all year, even when Arians says he hasn’t earned it. His guy finally gets a chance to start the last two weeks and what does our GM say? Nothing the first game and he looks like a rookie the second game.

    With all his motivation to sing his praises, why didn’t he? Hmmm.

  54. By John The Draft Guy on Dec 16, 2014 | Reply


    Yes, but two wild card teams meeting in the playoffs would be a very strange thing. If we lose and become a wild card team, the only way we host a playoff game is to play the other wild card team in the NFC Championship.

    Since I already gave my credit card number in for tickets, I hope we host games.

  55. By John The Draft Guy on Dec 16, 2014 | Reply

    Yes, Richard S,

    I forgot about Jamarcus Russell. Thank you.

    So to recap, Freeman, Tebow, Quinn, and Russell.

    Four guys who were first rounders who are no longer in the league but available. Nice.

    But we forgot our guy. What about Matty hot tub.? Yes. Bring back Matt Leinart.

    We can’t win with our QB. Here is the only way we win.

    Defense, special teams, lots of punts, field position, no turnovers by us, get a few turnovers on defense, Ginn needs a big return, run the ball then run it again and again. Put a spy on Wilson and dont let him run, stop Beastmode.
    We can win this thing. lets go 10-9??

  56. By clssylssy on Dec 16, 2014 | Reply

    What’s the story on this undrafted rookie QB Keim just signed (Jeff Mathews/Cornell) to the practice squad? Kinda was a bit of a shock as he seems like a body with a pulse and perhaps not a high priority right now but, I could be wrong and would love it if he were another Kerwynn Williams:)

  57. By NYCardinals on Dec 16, 2014 | Reply

    Scott H,

    John Skelton was the starter in the 58-0 blowout against the Seahawks. He was pulled after his 4th interception. Lindley came in with 7:43 left in the 3rd quarter, and the score was already 48-0.

  58. By Scott H on Dec 16, 2014 | Reply

    NYCardinals –

    Correction noted. My bad. But my point stands about the game we won against the Seahawks in Seattle last year. The D held Seattle to 10 points that day, gave Russell Wilson his worst day as a pro QB. And on a day when our offense was pretty bad, they did just enough to win because the D made it stand up. So…can’t we expect Lindley to be at least as good ( or as bad ) as Palmer was that day? It would seem we should. Because 1TD vs 4 INT’s is pretty bad and it wouldn’t seem to be too much to ask.

    From there, it’s all up to the defense.

    If the Cardinals can get ONE TD from each phase, this will be a win. Been saying all year that TEAM is what it takes and that is exactly what it WILL take on Sunday. The offense has to be just good enough ( but aspire to more, of course ). The defense has to be at its absolute best. And the special teams has to be, well….special. Just once that day, they need to be special.

    The offense needs to be designed to give Lindley safety outlets / dump-offs to counter the pass rush and keep him in one piece. And with guys like Williams, Taylor, and Hughes, we HAVE the guys that can turn those into big plays.

    Russell Wilson continues to scare the hell out of me. Every damn time I see that guy play, he makes those plays where he shows his lethal combination of mobility, intelligence, and ability to execute. The Cards need to keep him behind the line. And when he starts to move around back there, they HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON EVERYBODY WHO IS DOWN FIELD!!! How many friggin times do we see Wilson scramble all around to buy time and then sling it downfield to someone who is IMPOSSIBLY wide open???

    THAT is how Russell Wilson can kill you. He is SOOOOOO damn good at that.

    Time to give that guy his 2nd worst day as a pro.

  59. By cert33 on Dec 16, 2014 | Reply

    A little reality check, Drew Stanton isn’t a very talented QB but he’s smart and disciplined. Forget what you saw in 2012, Lindley was a rookie playing behind what was probably the most pathetic O-Line of this decade and for a coach that still loses nearly every week. With this current team and O-Line, Lindley is capable of playing to same level as Stanton under B.A.’s system.

  60. By Kevin S Mesa on Dec 16, 2014 | Reply

    cert33 —

    If only that were true. How many people came on here saying that there would be little to no dropoff going from Palmer to Stanton (some even suggesting Stanton could be an improvement because of increased mobility)? And then reality set in…

    If you believe Lindley is capable of playing to the same level as Stanton, then one might ask, why did the Cardinals ever sign Stanton to begin with? Lindley was already on the team, and much cheaper. They went out and got Stanton because Stanton is better. Then they went out and got Palmer because Palmer is better than either of them. Let’s stop trying to kid ourselves into thinking our 2nd string QB is as capable as our 1st string and that our 3rd string QB is as capable as our 2nd. I agree with you that Lindley 2014 should be better than Lindley 2012. But that’s not saying much.

  61. By Coach K on Dec 16, 2014 | Reply


  62. By Scott H on Dec 16, 2014 | Reply

    Kevin –

    RE: Palmer vs Stanton

    And yet, this offense looked totally stuck in the mud with Palmer against St Loo the first time around. He goes out, Stanton comes in cold off the bench, throws a dart down the field to Smokey for what becomes the winning score. I’m not so sure we win that game the way the offense was going behind Palmer. They had NO spark until Stanton came in.

    Against Seattle? IMHO, I don’t know that Palmer was going to do much better than Stanton did that day. Not with the way Seattle was playing that day. Not with NOTHING from our running game that day and with no Fitz.

    Atlanta? Who knows? But the whole team collapsed that day, period. Stanton didn’t allow Julio Jones to have a career day or an old man like Steven Jackson to have a 100-yard day. No Fitz that day, either.

    KC? Not exactly an offensive explosion and, no, Stanton did not play especially well. But isn’t it funny how the offense woke up at least a LITTLE with the return of a running game?

    All that said, no, there is no REAL debate as to whether Stanton is as good as / better than Stanton. He is not. I’m not trying to stir up the debate all over again. But considering that we lost Palmer twice to injury and Drew Stanton had a winning record in games he started this year, it is NOT at all ridiculous to say that he has been every bit as important to what this team has accomplished this season as Palmer was.

    And, unfortunately…no, there is also no real debate as to whether Lindley is as good as / better than Stanton. He is not.

  63. By cert33 on Dec 16, 2014 | Reply

    They got Stanton because he knew Arian’s system. They got Palmer because he is an elite, star QB with a few years left. By the end of last season, Lindley was familiar with Arian’s system.
    Don’t you find it interesting that when BA took over last year, he inherited K. Kolb, J. Skelton, B. Hoyer, and Lindley.
    BA kept only Lindley and dumped the rest. I trust BA’s judgment.
    Skelton and Kolb couldn’t even hook-up with another team.
    When Lindley was cut this season because BA thought he had a pat hand with Stanton and Palmer and could afford to have the luxury of a long term project in Logan Thomas, Lindley was picked up right away by the Chargers.
    Believe or not, BA knows what he is doing.

  64. By Scott H on Dec 17, 2014 | Reply


    To be fair, Kolb did go to Buffalo but his health was an issue once again. His body just was not up to football at the pro level. A shame because I think he really could have been a good QB. At the very least, he could have been a very solid back-up with borderline starting QB potential. Would not be surprised to see Kolb become a very good QB coach. Remember the game the Cards won in Philly with Skelton playing, Kolb on the sidelines? Remember how when the Eagles were on defense, Kolb was calling out their defensive signals from our sidelines?

    It often seems to be the back-up QB’s who go on to be good coaches later on. I think Kolb could do that.

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