Cardinals add Veterans Combine receiver

Posted by Darren Urban on March 23, 2015 – 11:26 am

The NFL brought in 105 players to Tempe Sunday for their first Veterans Combine. They are leaving one behind. The agent of wide receiver Nathan Slaughter tweeted out his client was signing with the Cardinals. (And a little later, the player himself did the same.) The team has yet to officially announce any move. UPDATE: It’s official now.

Slaughter ran one of the fastest 40 times Sunday (reportedly sub-4.4s), which is noteworthy after a workout with some notoriously slow 40 times. He is 5-foot-9 and 184 pounds, a West Texas A&M product who was originally signed by the Texans as an undrafted free agent last year. He was cut and then signed by the Jaguars in June, then waived-injured by Jacksonville early in August. He has yet to appear in a regular-season game. For a team looking for a return man, Slaughter averaged 41.7 yards per kickoff return his last year in college.

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49 Responses to “Cardinals add Veterans Combine receiver”

  1. By Marlin on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    Nice !

  2. By Brad on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    Obviously Keim had a super slow 40 track installed to try and keep Arians from getting too excited about anyone at the combine. UnFortunately for keim this player was too light to be affected by the soft sand under the sponge grass and came up as a speedster. So now he has to write another check.

  3. By EDijkstra on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply


  4. By jeffy1951 on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    Any player with a 41.7 yd. average kickoff return must have SOMETHING going on. Considering Ted Ginn’s performance last year how could it be much worse. I say it’s worth a look-see and maybe he’ll average half that with us. Not bad.

  5. By Andy Kw on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    I love seeing unemployed NFL players getting another shot at an NFL job.

  6. By Andy Kw on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    Let’s sign Mikel Leshoure. He looked really good at the veteran combine. Give him a shot. Like if you agree

  7. By D on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    If the Halftime prop is approved, will we see more extravagant half time shows? Like the Army’s Golden Nights flying in with T Shirt guns????

    How is the pool looking at the Biltmore Darren?

  8. By azdesertrat1953 on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    Average 41.7 yards. On kickoffs. Well looks like Steve did it again, only time will tell but hey if Mr Slaughter puts up those kind of yards for the Cards, Heck Yes!

    GO CARDS!!!

  9. By Patrick Hoog aka Don't Take Losses on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    Good get, speed burner.

    Liked Brad’s pithy comments above, but he”s getting no thumb love. (not Brad Pitt, Brad’s pithy, ok then…)

  10. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply


    I agree. No sense of humor by so many on the board.
    Thumbs down on Brad because they probably thought he was serious.

    I liked it.

  11. By Dr. G. on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    As much as “speed,” we need “heart,” of which Ginn had none for returning. PP also lost his “heart” for contact as well. They duped the Cards for the money and bailed. If Slaughter brings the hunger for the game, do it.

    If he tackles like Bethel, he is a keeper for STs. But, don’t look at college numbers to transfer to the NFL; if he has those numbers in the NFL, he could have an “S” on his jersey instead of a number. I hope he gets a shot at a spot; there are not that many spots left to fill to get to 53 + 10 for the Practice Squad…later Cards Fans

  12. By D on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    Holes to fill: OLB/Pass Rusher, RB, depth at CB and ILB

    Ways to address by the Draft and remaining free agent players:


    Sign S. Jackson RB 1yr deal. Sign D. Freeney OLB 1 yr deal.

    Round 1– names to watch: A. Dupree, O. Odighizuwa both OLB/ M. Peters, P.J. Williams both CB’s.

    Round 2–names to watch: B. McKinney and S. Anthony both ILB, N. Orchard OLB
    The rest of the draft keep filling those 4 main needs

    Cards have plenty of cap left to spend for draft and a few players available via free agency..

  13. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    As for the combine;

    Michael Bush’s comments were the best and saddest from combine. After running a 4.91, he said some things I won’t repeat and then said his career is over.

    Biggest disappointments from the combine –

    Brady Quinn – Such a smart, nice guy. You want him to be good. Yet his passes floated and he just isn’t more than a possible back up QB after a round 1 pick by the Browns a few years ago.

    Michael Sam. Ran slower than he did at the combine a year ago, posting a 5.0 and then was poor in the drills. This after losing weight and trying to be more athletic. After his drills, our draft experts said there is zero chance he could play OLB and he is too small to play right end and too slow to play left end.

    Three guys I would kick the tires on;

    1. Tyler Wilson – I liked Tyler coming out of Arkansas. He might have been a system QB, but at this combine, he threw the ball better than anyone.

    2. Adam Carriker – This is a former first rounder who had a bad injury to the knee. But he is big and powerful and would be a nice addition as an end or possibly a NT in our 3-4 on run downs.

    3. Jaamal Anderson – The 8th overall pick had the same injury as Carriker and is looking to come back. He could play our 5 tech DE spot and giv us a nice run stopper.

    With the guys we signed at DE and with the possibility to grab a rookie QB, I doubt we will come out and sign any of them. But they are guys that can come in and help for next to nothing in salary.

  14. By sbrown on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    Brad – you might want to know what you are stating, or just be quiet while the adults post our comments.
    The Vet. Combine ran the 40 yard dash inside the Cardinals Practice Bubble. That has field turf, not natural grass inside of it. All Combine participants ran inside on the turf. OK Brad, back to your Mom’s basement….

  15. By hminus on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    I dont understand why we wouldnt add Tyler Wilson & cut Ryan Lindley,Wilson is MUCH better as a #3 qb prospect than Lindley,(had the best arm of ALL of the vets @ combine,)& would fill in nicely as a DECENT #3 option until Logan Thomas is ready…

  16. By Darren Urban on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    hminus —

    RE: Lindley

    Lindley isn’t on the roster. Also, the Cardinals will not carry four quarterbacks once we get to the regular season.

  17. By hminus on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    LeShoure is 6’0” & 233 lbs,did well at the vet combine…

  18. By Coach K on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    Slaughter is a great signing.

    He was an amazing kick returner in college. He is definitely a HUGE
    UPGRADE over Ted “let the ball roll” Ginn.

    Great job Keim. Kickoff return has its big play guy who is fearless.

  19. By Coach K on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply


    LeShoure was a good back coming out of college. Would love to see him get
    a serious look by the Cards. There is a small school guy this year I really like. His name is Zack Zenner, RB, So. Dakota St. 5-11, 225, 4.50 speed. This guy has wheels and good size. This kid reminds me of a young Ron Wolfley, only faster. Would be a great 7th rounder, or free agent kid to bring in.

    A real sleeper.

  20. By Coach K on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply


    Really like your first and second round guys to keep an eye on. I especially love DuPree if by some miracle he slides to us. I like the UCLA kid, but there is some concern about his hips. Not sure exactly what the issue is, but it has been reported so its a question mark.

    McKinney or Anthony would be great round two picks. I agree.

    Here is what I would call SAFE PICKS if on the board:

    round 1- Carl Davis, DT, Iowa
    Pick #24 might be a little high for Davis, but he would be an instant starter on day one and fill a need inside. Can also play nose.

    Round 2- Tevin Coleman, RB, Indiana
    The more I watch his film, the more I find him very similar to Gordon. No surprise Keim invited him to the office for an interview last week.

    Round 3- Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB, Louisville
    This guy may not last until we pick at #86, but he is a beast in the pass rush.

    Round 4- Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon St.
    Will be the future all-pro, franchise quarterback for the Cards over the next decade. No doubt in my mind. Has the “it factor” that puts him in a class all his own. Better than Mariotta in my opinion. Call me crazy, but I’ve been working with QB’s a long time and my eyes don’t lie.

    Round 5- Laurence Gibson, OT, Va. Tech
    Arizona home buy who had impressive combine workout. Huge and light on his feet.

    Round 6- Ladarius Gunter, CB, Miami
    Great size and speed. Is a little raw, but is a very physical, quality athlete who can develop.

    Round 7- Max Garcia, C, Florida
    If he is available in round seven, we take Max. He can be thrown into the mix to compete at center and has decent skill sets.

    Compensation pick- Zack Zenner, RB, So. Dakota St.,
    My name for him is Wolf, Jr. Reminds me of Ron Wolfley with way more speed. This guy is the Rocky Balboa of running backs. Love guys like this.

  21. By georgiebird on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    SK back on the case after some time spent on the AP “close-to-fiasco”.
    Whether the Cardinals will do better than last year is a debatable point. But BASK keep trying to better the team. I have to give them an A+ for their efforts.
    The only thing missing is SK hitting it out of the park in the draft.

  22. By clssylssy on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    Agree with JTDG. Wilson, Carriker, & Anderson could be good pick ups on the cheap and are hungry for an opportunity…wouldn’t be the first time we signed guys coming off injuries, although I believe a prospect’s injury hx should be given a lot of weight. Even if they were practice squad guys they could get an opportunity to develop and possibly turn into valuable backups which we have learned can be the difference between making the playoffs and watching them on TV.
    As far as the draft goes, I’m not hanging any big hopes there as I believe the philosophy has been to take the BPA and hope for the best. Nobody knows what’s happening with Logan Thomas and I don’t see much QB talent that impresses aside from Bryce Petty out of Baylor who I expect the Saints to take as Drew is entering the last years of his contract and will have a cap figure of $27M next season unless he takes a big pay cut. At any rate, seems that Keim has a plan and I have a feeling that he is using the Owner’s meeting to do a little wheeling and dealing possibly with Jason Leicht since the Bucs have advertised that they would be open to doing some trading with their draft position (hope it’s not with the Eagles). Also wouldn’t surprise me to see a deal done for AP, since Keim made no move toward signing a RB yet and we really don’t need another rookie project unless he’s a sleeper Marshawn Lynch. Don’t think the AP chapter is closed yet.
    As far as Ginn goes, I don’t think he was a terrible as many think, but possibly his lack of returns were a result of the rule change and normally having to take it at the 20 because the kickoff went out of the endzone. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him do well with the Panthers. Our tackling was God awful and that I blame on the system. We have room for improvement in a lot of areas, especially the basics, and need some major depth. I’ve learned that skepticism is the best way to survive
    Card’s off seasons, then one can be occasionally pleasantly surprised when the regular season starts.

  23. By Doug b on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    The Slaughter signing is nice, Looks kind of like a John Brown clone. Look how Patriots moved the ball on the Seahawks, quick passes to small shifty guys. Looks like Slaughter has that potential… Hopefully he’s the guy that the vet combine can advertise for next year cause that would mean he did good as a Cardinal.. Also wondering now we have the Mr. Irrelevant pick if GM Keim gonna try and move up in the draft to pick someone cause he’ll have the extra pick now, even as bad as it might be……

  24. By Big Ken on Mar 23, 2015 | Reply

    good stuff Coach K.

  25. By Eric G on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    Slaughter can’t be any worse than Ginn.

  26. By much.faster on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    here goes my first mock draft, i had diggs drafted as kick returner in one of the later rounds …..

  27. By Scott H on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    As a return man, I would welcome this kid with open arms! If he can give us a solid / dependable / occasionally brilliant return game, then I wouldn’t care if he didn’t catch a pass all year! But since he appears capable of doing that, too, then why not? He seems well-suited to be a WR 4 or 5, which is where he would fall on this depth chart. Seems to be totally low-risk / high-reward player.

    Geez, after a year with Tedd Ginn, it may take a while to get used to seeing someone catch a punt and actually try to advance it. I really am looking forward to seeing that again!

  28. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    Coach K,

    You know I have been a fan of Davis, but more at the beginning of round 2. (trading down)

    Tevin Coleman has so many big runs. I have heard Demarco Murray comparisons.

    Mauldin showed he wasn’t half bad dropping into coverage at the senior bowl. Beast pass rusher? I think we have a different view of beast.

    Mannion is getting more and more buzz. But QBs get that. Does Bryce Petty go to NO at pick 31? That pushes Hundley and Grayson into round 2 picks, making Mannion a round 3 guy. An early round 3 guy (like the browns).
    I’m just saying….. So do we have to take him in round two???

    The cards are loaded with talent. They need some game changers in this draft.
    Vic Beasley and Todd Gurley are two game changers who will most likely be off the board at 24.

    Are any of the QBs game changers? Not sure. Hundley is that Randall Cunningham type QB who can make plays with both his arm and legs, but may never be that pocket passer. Petty throws the deep ball well, has a strong enough arm to throw all the passes. But those spread QBs lock on to one receiver and predetermine before the play who to go to.

    Arik Armstead is a Campbell clone. Put in at the other DE spot would give the cards two, big powerful, quick DEs. Of course Keim just picked Martin and signed a couple of DEs to go with Rucker.

    What about Shaq Thompson? It just depends so much on Washington.

    Jalen Collins is a tall, fast CB who could partner with PP for the next 4 years. That would be a game changer.

    Davis is stout in the middle and quick enough to play the one gap defense. Another guy like him is Jordon Phillips, who is huge and quick.

    So when it really comes down to it, Beasley or Gurley are easy picks, but neither will be there. Armstead is a potential pro bowler, but will Keim look past his roster and take the best player available? I think Collins will go before 24 also.

    So a NT seems right, but maybe a trade down.

  29. By Brad oneill on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    Sbrown- its called a joke and Mom wanted to know when you were going to come by and mow the lawn?

  30. By clssylssy on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    I think it’s likely that more of these guys from the Vet Combine will get signed after the draft and as things settle down. These guys carry a big upside not being greenbroke, having some maturity and the motivation to take the job they are not going to be costly, carry a big cap number or dead money value…a GM’s dream for a Cap strapped team needing to fill out the depth chart. I think this was a great idea and will catch on more next season now that it’s been publicized and guys understand what it’s about. I love that these guys are getting another chance to make a roster and am always a supporter of Vets! I’m curious if this was a Cardinal inspired event or if it was just a coincidence that it was held here at our practice facility because of all the additional draws the state has to offer this time of year?

  31. By brinnc on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    Andy Kw,
    Now your talking!!! Mikel Leshoure would solve all the bickering problems that all these AP rumors have caused on here!! But best of all he is a University of ILLINOIS product!!! He was a stud for the ILLINI, only problem was he was labeled a one year wonder!!! Which if I set my obvious bias for anything ILLINI to the side, the one year wonder label may be a correct assesment, but he blew out his knee in Detroit (former first round pick!!) so we may never know if he is a one hit wonder or he could be a solid if not spectacular addition to our RB room, what do the Cardinals stand to lose, none of these veterans are going to see multi year, multi-million dollar offers are they?? Coming in at #31 out of 32 teams in the running game tells me we should go out on a limb and try just about anything to improve our running game!! What would it cost to give him a shot, pre-season game checks, if he makes the team it would probably be at veterans min, and SK could load his contract with incentives. But in the end the biggest and best positive is he is an ILLINI, just cant go wrong with signing him!!! LOL!

    Were the veterans combine open to the public?? I have seen next to nothing on results, as a matter of fact Darrens article is the first and only signing I have seen coming out of this combine, and im talking NFL wide not just the Cardinals signing!! Has anyone out there locally got any input or impressions on any of the veterans helping the Cardinals??

  32. By brinnc on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    Coach K,
    YOUR CRAZY!! (You said it not me. LOL!) But actually I think you might just be a tad bit nuts, (join the crowd, welcome to my world, however you want to say it, nothing wrong with being a little bonkers!! Hell people say im totally freaking insane for running toward the soud of gunfire rather than away from it!! Debatable! !) But Mannion in the 4th round? I would have to sy that is little crazy, kid is a 7th rounder or UDFA, and we have our 3 QB’s, cant see wasting a 4th round pick on a QB when we have needs at other positions that a 4th round pick could fill and contribute from day 1, Im all for bringing in a QB for competition or the miniscule possibility that the Cardinals find the future stud, a hidden gem, take a flyer in the 6th or 7th but dont waste a 4th round pick on someone who is just going to get cut or end up on the practice squad. The other pick is the RB, that is just a difference of opinion of course, cant see taking Coleman when Johnson/UNI or Ajai/Boise St should still be on the board in the 2nd, full disclosure, I’m very squeamish when it comes to using a high draft pick on a B10 RB, that is what scares me away from Gordon as well, especially in the first round, B10 RB are cursed with career ending injuries either before their career takes off, or soon after it takes off they end up with a severe injury and fall off the face of the earth!! And I realize that is a chance you take with any NFL player but the large amount of BIG TEN RB’s whose career was cut way to short is astronomical compared to other players and positions, guess im just superstitious, which I have swore all my life to try not to be, but in the case of B10 RB’s the injury numbers dont lie, and im a B10 guy, lifelong UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS fanatic, so it makes it real difficult to see the huge number of RB’s from B10 fail.

  33. By brinnc on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    John the draft guy,
    You talk about game changers quite abit, as do I, Personally, I just dont see a game changer at #24 that the Cardinals couldnt get in the second round.
    I have been posting numerous posts in favor of the Cardinals trading out of first round and get extra picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds (or 2nd and 4th, very early in the 4th, like top 5-10) but with two second round picks and two third round picks I feel our beloved Cards could get 4 players that would have an immediate impact:

    Rd 2B – RB
    ** If somehow Stephone Anthony/Clemson/ILB is still on the board when we are picking in the 2nd round, I think we should grab him only because of the lack of depth in the draft at ILB, seem to be 3 ILB’s getting consideration as a 1st rounder, and Anthony is consistently on that list, but ILB talent fall off pretty quick after the top 3 (McKinney/MissSt isnt even listed in that group, seeing more and more so called experts saying McKinney will not go until 3rd round) whereas OLB/EDGE RUSHER is deep again, ad RB is very talented and deep this year, so we should be able to snag a very talented player at both positions in round 3 if needed, cant do that at ILB.
    What do you think, if Cards are offered a 2nd and 3rd for #24, would you pull the trigger??
    Actually, any self employed GM’s (like myself!!) Please let me know, should the Cardinals trade out of #24??

    Anyway back to the trade out scenario
    3A – CB (Djoun/Florida Atlantic would be a great get at this point, he
    too was an awesome KR/PR and would be insurance if Slaughter
    doesnt work out, but more importantly he will push Bethel for playing
    time at CB.
    3B – DT/NT (big big mountain of a man in the middle)

  34. By brinnc on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    Sorry JTDG, you know better than anyone on here the trouble I have trying to figure my phone out!! Somehow I hit “post”, picking up where I left off

    I think Cooper/Washington St (working off memory on him, havent gotten this far in my research for the draft) but I believe its Xavier Cooper Washington State, he needs to add weight, but has the frame to do it, real fast in the 40, if I remember correctly. May be a bit of a reach, but if we trade out of first it is an extra pick that we can afford to reach a little, there was another kid from Arkansas, that may be a good fit with this pick, but of course my memory is just not coming through with a name right now!! (Damn IED’s!) It will comecto me as soon as I hit post!! Always does!! LOL!
    I truly believe (and this may be the biggest bias of all) but I believe if we trade #24 in first for the extra picks, I think SK/BA has gotten our Cardinals in a position to draft Best Player Available regardless of position, and it is looking more and more like starting in round 4, Cardinals could start going BPA, and that is a great position to be in, our Cardinals have come a long way, and this current ride with SK/BA and staff has been absolutely awesome!!!
    May have to wait until round 5 to start selecting BPA, depending on your view of the TE position, I just dont think there are any TE’s that will make a huge impact in the 4th round or later, actually not an impressive class of TE’s this year at all, besides the Max Williams kid out there in the local AZ area, thinking he would be a steal if he were around in the 2nd round, but he looks like he is gone by #18-20!! But maybe im to optimistic, or biased, but I really think we are in position to be able to start drafting BPA in the 4th round and that is a great feeling, even if im wrong about the round, just to be able to mention drafting BPA at some point in this draft shows just how far our beloved Cardinals have progressed!!! BIRDGANG FOR LIFE!!!

  35. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply


    The Washington I refer to is already on the team.
    I was saying maybe Shaq Thompson could be that game changer at ILB but if Washington can come back, I don’t see the pick making sense.

    As for, would I trade down from 24?

    I have stated for 3 months I would consider a trade down. But first, I would have to know who is there at 24.

    As stated many times, Beasley and Gurley are automatic picks at 24. Zero chance I trade down. In fact, I would trade up to get either guy if they drop to 18 or so.

    I also would take Arik Armstead at 24 and not trade down. I do not hink Keim does, but I would.

    Jalen Collins I might stay put and pick also.

    After that, I am moving down. If I had two 2nds and 2 thirds, you could get some very good players. Carl Davis or Jordon Phillips would be that first pick in round two

    After that, so many factors are there. Does Eli Harold drop to our 2nd round spot? There will be several RBs sitting there.

    Then there is the fact the cards have brought in Grayson and now Hundley. Two 2nd round QBs. Could we see a trade down and our first pick in the second round be HUndley? That would shake things up.

  36. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply


    Funny, when I mentioned Stephone Anthony in January, not many were on my bandwagon.

    When I saw him in drills at the senior bowl, I thought he could cover. That made him a valuable guy since we knew he could play the run. I guess I am not the only one who saw that.

    Now, he has gone from a 4th round pick to a top 50 pick.

  37. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    I just keep thinking something will happen with AP also.

    AP agent blasting the Vikes yesterday again. If you could get a second rounder, and get rid of a bunch of cap space, I think I would deal Peterson. The vikes are not a playoff team this year in my opinion.

    As for the cards, Peterson is the player who could tip the scales towards a super bowl team. Sure, losing a pick and taking the salary hit would hurt, but when they are hoisting the trophy after the super bowl, those pains will disappear.

    If I gave up a 2nd rounder, I would trade down and pick up another 3 to go with the 2nd round pick.

    Then, lets shake things up big time and take Hundley with that trade down pick in the 2nd.

    Grab Nate Orchard at OLB and a NT in round 3. All of a sudden, you have a team that can win now and build for the future at the same time.

    Just a thought.

  38. By sbrown on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    Brad –
    it’s OK, no harm – no foul. just as long as you are a Big Red fan, then we are all after the same thing SB50 !!

    tell Mom I said hi, I’ll try to get over and take care of the lawn this

  39. By hminus on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    Darren; I know Lindley isn’t on roster,(untendered,),but he wasn’t on roster last year after camp…but like a bad penny he turned up again!…Cards will also sign a bunch of no name camp bodies to fill out roster to 90,would be good to see Wilson thru camp instead of RL,(& maybe be our PS QB too…)

  40. By Darren Urban on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    hminus —

    RE: Wilson

    Wilson wants a chance. I don’t think he’s in a rush to be a camp body.

  41. By Coach K on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply


    I know what you’re saying, but I’m thinking safe picks in my scenario. If I want to be really safe in round one, then I take Jalen Collins, CB, LSU.

    As for Mauldin, I’m looking at the whole package. Talent, size and mental makeup. This kid from the streets is a leader on and off the field. His story is just as impressive as his ability. When I compare him on film to Nate Orchard, it is Mauldin that really sticks out to me. Orchard does not. I just like the go for broke, wreckless way that Mauldin plays. There is no doubt he will not last past the second round. I mocked Maulden at round three, but I just cannot do that any more. He is simply too good.

    Another pass rusher I like a lot is Trey Flowers out of Arkansas. If I had my choice of the first four picks in this draft and asked to play it super safe, I would have to go with 1. Jalen Collins, CB, 2. Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB, 3. Trey Flowers, DE and Sean Mannion, QB in that order.

    Collins is simply too good of an athlete to pass on if he is there at #24. as much as I like Davis as an immediate starter, I like Collins even more as a sure thing.
    That brings me to Mannion again. I can only say what my eyes and experience tell me. When I listen to his interviews and watch his decision making on game film, I’m convinced he’s going to be a great NFL quarterback.

    brinnc thinks I really am nuts, and maybe all those years of screaming on the sidelines has made me a little nuts perhaps, but I’m telling you, and remember this…Sean Mannion in my opinion is a carbon copy of Peyton Manning mentally. checking down to the third and fourth receiver, and always choosing the right guy in his progression. His pre-snap reads and ability to change the play at the line, and his ability to drop the deep ball right into the hands of a covered receiver is simply unmatched by any other QB in this draft class. Winston has a great grasp of read progression and a good arm. I just don’t care for his character at all and would not touch him with a ten foot clip board.

    Mannion will be the most pro ready of any quarterback in this class. That is probably why he is moving up the boards. I don’t see him cracking into round two, but three is highly possible. I’m hoping he lasts until pick 120.

    brinnc, no way Mannion slides to round 7 or FA. The only direction he is going is up after a great pro day.

  42. By Coach K on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

  43. By Scott H on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    JTDG –

    I really wish I could converse / debate more with ya regarding the draft. But as I explained before, I really just cannot because I don’t follow the college game at all.

    Where AP is concerned, we are definitely on the same page there. I see the Cardinals as being more of a “win now” team than one building for the future. And THAT is exactly the kind of situation where a player like AP could really put a team over the top. Futures in the NFL are never guaranteed. Draft picks are never a guarantee. But a player like Adrian Peterson? You know exactly what he can do. And when you have a chance to win now in the NFL, you really need to take it.

    And I absolutely agree – winning a SB this year or next would be worth whatever picks / money AP would cost. Sometimes winning it all means a bit of sacrifice. Ya know what? To see OUR guys hoisting that Lombardi trophy for once in my life, I would make that sacrifice.

    AP is a WIN NOW player. And this team is built to WIN NOW.

  44. By brinnc on Mar 24, 2015 | Reply

    Coach L
    I have to confess I dont get to see many west coast games here in the east, plus being completely out of touch for most of college football season doesnt help at all, basically going off of what I have read from the so called experts were/are saying. Another factor to consider, do the Cardinals use a high pick for a QB unless he is a sure thing, which are v ery few and far between anyway, Winston is an absolute NO in my opinion, he may be an absolute great QB but he is immature and needs to work on becoming a man first, his off-field antics are going to get more serious before he may see the light, and I believe his ultimate downfall early in his career!! Besides the Cardinals have Logan Thomas that they used a mid round pick on, ad has only had 1 year to study under Carson Palmer, and CP was injured most of the season so didnt get to study him much. Have a qestion, s the “coach” just a posting handle, or are you an actual coach?? (Not talking Pop Warner kind of coach, or middle school, like I did on a volunteer basis). You rattled off some impresive coach speak in one of your posts above, was just wondering, plus I dont want to embarrass myself debating with a true expert!!

    You have to remember I was gone for a pretty good stretch, I didnt know you had posted about Stephone Anthony, I would have responded to you agreeing with you, I wouldnt be to upset if they took Anthony at #24 (though I pray every day that they trade out of first, but nothing completed prior to draft night, I hope they dont pull the trigger on the trade until Cardinals are on the clock at #24) Really dont think Beasley will be available when we pick, It wouldnt shock me if he is gone top 10. For sure he is off the board by #15, if no, I would welcome a Cardinal trade up as long as they dont sell the farm!! Are you comfortable with the Cardinals taking Gurley with a First round pick even though he probably wont be ready until November, and that isnt even game shape? Im sure you have read my post about Gurley, I watched him personally rip thru varsity defenses as a freshman and I followed him from then on, going to all the games I could possibly catch, especially if Tarboro HS played eastern county teams, he is a stud, he would be a perfect fit in my opnoon, but can the Cardinals afford to wait for him to be ready to play?? Makes the decision tougher due to the unusually talented and deep group of RB’s in the draft this year, dont you think?? I mean there are 3-4 RB’s that I believe would team with Ellington to move us up the rushing rankings pretty drastic improvement in my opinion, and we can get one of them in the 2nd or even 3rd round.

    Hasnt Jamaal Anderson been pretty much a bust even prior to the injury?

  45. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 25, 2015 | Reply


    As a pass rusher , yes. As a run stopper , no.
    Playing in a 4-3 as an edge guy, he didn’t have that burst to play there.
    As a 3-4 end, he could play that one gap defense well and Rucker could come in on run downs, much like Tommy Kelly.

    It will not take him till November. But if it did, yes. I think he is truly a game changing back.
    But I do not think he falls to 24 , and I also believe the AP trade will happen.

    SCOTT H,

    Amen brother.

  46. By John The Draft Guy on Mar 25, 2015 | Reply


    Rucker on passing downs. (Not run downs)

  47. By brinnc on Mar 25, 2015 | Reply

    Coach K
    Love the idea of Leshoure (he is an ILLINI guy!! Nuff said!!) LOL!
    Also Zenner may be a perfect Mr Irrelevant for the Cardinals, good chance he is still on the board and go undrafted, either way, what do we stand to lose, hell bring them both in, creates competition, would actually love to see both raise some eyebrows and both make the team, maybe stow Zenner away on practice squad!! Leshoure was pretty much a one year wonder for Illinois, he kumped for the money after his breakout season, so all ILLINOIS bias aside, he doesnt have much of a proven track record!!

    What makes you think Gurley will rehab faster than most? I think the kid is a stud, sure you have seen my posts about his HS days, I started watching him rip varsity defenses apart as a freshman, and he was from a very small HS , and he carried the team on his back especially against the bigger class schools, everyone within a five mile radius of the football field knew that Todd Gurley was getting the ball and they all had a pretty good idea of what hole he was hitting, they ran a very basic offense, roughly 8-10 running plays, I kid you not, but even though everyone had all the info, nobody could stop Gurley!! It was amazing!! Knew he was going to do well at Georgia too, just didnt think he would rip thru SEC defenses from day 1. I figured he would have a problem picking up Georgia’s offense since it is obviously more complex than his tiny azz HS, and he may have had a problem picking it up, but that just made him more impressive, improvising, overcoming, and adapting, switching on the fly, TG can do it all, but not sure he can safely speed up the recovery time, do you think he will be ready for day1 of regular season??
    Really cant see him ready for training camp or pre-season, but if your right and he is ready earlier than November, still have to figure he will need about a month to get in football shape, dont you think? I would fall over if we got him, but just not sure we can afford to wait until he will first, be healthy and return to the field, and second, get into football shape, I think it will cut pretty deep into season, my best case scenario, 6-8 games missed. What is your timeframe? Trust me I hope your right, but cant rush an ACL recovery and return. Thanks!

  48. By Coach K on Mar 25, 2015 | Reply


    Not a handle

    I am a retired high school coach in Arizona. Offensive coordinator and QB coach most of those years. Last season 2006. Brought the spread offense to Arizona back when everyone was running Wing-T. Averaged 42 ppg. first installation back in 1990. QB signed with Boise St. the following year. That was my most fun year of coaching by far.

  49. By Scott H on Mar 25, 2015 | Reply

    JTDG –

    Yeah, AMEN! And pass the collection plate so we can start building a fund for paying AP!

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