Keim: Scouting success and fine wine

Posted by Darren Urban on September 28, 2015 – 8:09 am

The Cardinals are 3-0, and without any significant injuries coming out of the dominant win over the 49ers (go ahead, you can knock on wood) the appearance of General Manager Steve Keim on the “Doug and Wolf” show on Arizona Sports 98.7 Monday morning was less about news and more about GM analysis. And, it is noted, also a shout-out from Keim to his scouting department, from vice president of player personnel Terry McDonough to director of college scouting Dru Grigson to director of pro scouting Quentin Harris and everyone down the line.

Keim noted the contributions the Cardinals are getting from college players found at Presbyterian (Justin Bethel), Deleware State (Rodney Gunter), Northern Iowa (David Johnson) and Pittsburg State (John Brown), and veteran free agents like Chris Johnson and Jermaine Gresham. “From top to bottom, (the scouting staff) is as good as anyone in the league,” Keim said.

— As if the statistics and score didn’t make the point, Keim liked his offensive line play. He said right tackle Bobby Massie played well, as did right guard Jonathan Cooper, and added that Gresham has made a big difference in the run game setting the edge as a blocker. Gresham, Keim said, has given the Cardinals something they haven’t had at tight end in while. (Side note: The Cardinals are hoping Troy Niklas develops into that kind of edge blocker.)

— The defensive line, with their major rotation, dominated on its end too. Keim specifically mentioned Gunter and defensive end Frostee Rucker.

— Not surprisingly, there was praise for the older guys like Carson Palmer and Larry Fitzgerald and even Chris Johnson, who celebrated his 30th birthday Sunday with 110 yards on 22 carries. “Like fine wine they get better with age,” Keim said. “It’s fun to see.”

— Keim was asked about some of the grumbling around the league when the Cardinals gave Fitzgerald $22 million guaranteed in February for two years, considering Fitz was older and his production was on the decline. It’s not on the decline anymore. Not that it matters, Keim said, because the outside talk can’t matter to him.

“Internally you have to continue to trust in what you believe in,” Keim said.

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38 Responses to “Keim: Scouting success and fine wine”

  1. By Marlin on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply


    Was at the game. BA needs to be corrected about something. Visiting fans didn’t create the noise on the offensive series that required silent counts. AZ fans did. Niners fans attempted a feeble “Defense” chant and Cards fans booed and hissed and yelled to stifle them……causing the noise that BA talked about. Our fans need to tighten that up, but at least BA needs to know it was not opposing fan noise. Great environment and great win !!!

  2. By Dynosoar on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    What I noticed in touchdowns, when Kap ran in and scored it looked like he just ran off the field. I didn’t even see a high five for him.

    When we scored, there was a flock of Cardinals players leaping and crashing and celebrating with whomever scored.

    There was definitely a difference. I loved what I was able to see.

  3. By Brad oneill on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Even when fitz wasnt the scoring machine he has been the past two weeks he was a very reliable 3rd down asset and his blocking down field is making a huge difference for the team. He draws two defenders or practically guarantees a third down completion. Not that his salary needs justification this year. As a fan i was and am thrilled that he stayed.

  4. By Kevin S Mesa on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Question for Cards fans: Assuming Big Ben is out for 4-6 weeks as reported, are you happy that we won’t need to face him, or would you rather face the Steelers at full strength as a test for the Cardinals?

  5. By Kevin S Mesa on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Also, not to get overconfident, but our schedule is looking much less tough for the entire first half… Rams’ offense has done nothing for two weeks (and adding Gurley for a few carries didn’t help). Lions are 0-3 and not terribly impressive on either side of the ball. Steelers should be without their QB. Ravens are almost certainly the best 0-3 team in football, but still, they need to turn it around soon or they may have little to play for by the time they come to AZ. And then we go to Cleveland.

    We still haven’t had Iupati and Ellington’s been out two weeks. Add those guys to an already dynamic offense, avoid other major injuries, and I’d say there is a decent chance we could be 8-0 going into the bye week and then to Seattle…

  6. By Dynosoar on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Douglas Forgatsch,

    you asked about D-Wash’ status and if the team even wanted him anymore.

    Why should they. He’s let us down multiple times. Have you even watched what we’ve been doing the last two season and especially the last three games without him?

    I liked having him on the team and I want him to be drug free. successful and most importantly happy, but have you been watching this team?

    We do not NEED him. We are doing just fine (and I’d dare say top of the league) without him AND if he came back, could he play at a high level being away from training so long. He wouldn’t know the new playbook Becther’s installed.

    Like I asked yesterday, D-Wash who?

    This is a team, we don’t NEED any one player to win.

    Go Cardinals and win that ring!

  7. By Patrick Hoog aka Don't Take Losses on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Hope (appears so) that Cards mindset is we’re just 1-0… in the division. Trying not to get too high … need confirmation with solid win vs. Rams. Would get us thru 1st quarter of season right where we need to be.

  8. By John The Draft Guy on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    The offensive line has done a good job. Most of the breakdowns came from Fells as he struggled blocking most of the day.

    But if you have a 100 yd rusher, 100 yd receiver, and a 300 yd passer along with 47 points, you have to point out the great job the line has done.

    I especially think Larsen has done such a solid job filling in for Iupati. Tough to take Larsen out, except you know Iupati is just that much better.

    The real test comes this sunday vs the rams. With that front 4, our line has to play perfect. 5 sacks and Big Ben out for two months, not to mention Aaron Donald blowing by Cooper last year to take out Stanton, it is time for this line to have their best game.

  9. By John The Draft Guy on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Palmer’s int;

    Palmer is a class act taking all the blame on the int. What I saw was Floyd stop, when Palmer threw up a jump ball for him to go get.

    Just a little miscommunication. But Palmer never mentioned it (from anything I heard). A True leader.

  10. By John The Draft Guy on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Anyone notice that Denver, last night, started playing a safety at LB ??

    Mr Bowles might have started a new trend.

  11. By Lynn on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    “Like fine WIN they get better with age”…??? Come on, editors! Proof before publishing.

  12. By Marcelof on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Kevin S Mesa

    If you want to be a champion you shall pick no challenger. You gotta be better, stronger than all of them. You gotta run faster, hold harder and be more physical.

    I – personally – don’t wanna see Cardinals putting up a ring by luck or by events that help them (although they’re needed to every champion), but by seeing Arizona team running over opponents, scoring up on every down and stopping them as many times as possible, may it be with Big Ben, Bell, A. Brown and company all together.

    I lookin forward to the fight againts Gree Bay, long way to go yet but here we go!

  13. By John The Draft Guy on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    In 3 games;
    Peterson, Powers, Johnson have a pick each

    Jefferson and Bethel have pick sixes each

    Honey Badger has two picks including a pick six

    This is the top secondary in the NFL

    Hey Bucannon, Nick Foles has a pass with your name on it this week.

  14. By BigBobDiesel on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    So can we talk about Floyd’s route tree yet?

  15. By tkm on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    —kevin s—nobody asked us to reschedule our games last year when palmer and Stanton went down.hate to see people get hurt for anyone but if that is who we face without big ben then vick will wish he had retired.last year Carolina didn’t say hey lets wait till one of our starting quarterbacks are healthy then we will play the game.i don’t think our defense even knows who is playing,they just smell blood.

  16. By georgiebird on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Keim is a tremendous improvement over his many predecessors (something not hard to do). Keim is now considered to be one of the top GM’s in the league. All SK has to do now is improve his #1,2,3 draft choices a bit. And of course, SK owes a debt of gratitude to the guy he hired (and vice versa).

  17. By don on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    hell yes we want to play pittsburg without big ben .. we want to take away their spirit to compete in the first quarter . the harder they play . the bigger chance of an injury . the more games we win . the better our chance at home field advantage . after a champion is crowned . it doesn’t matter how they got the crown . there will be no asterix on the championship …

  18. By Steve on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    This game will be what I consider to be the Cards first real tough test, especially for the offense as the Rams have probably the best defensive front 7 in the NFL.

  19. By TucsonTim on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Kevin S –

    Do you think ANY team we faced after Carson’s ACL wished that CP was playing.

  20. By jeffcardinalfan on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    I musta missed the grumbling around the league when fitz got his new deal…lest we forget it was the cowboys (and a few other teams) that started the mess years ago by signing deion sanders to a huge deal with a lot of money as signing bonus which did not count against the cap!!! the rest of nfl can &%%$)@#.

    as far as fitz goes I wud still take him over EVERY other wr in the league!! in terms oh his intangible leadership, behavior on and off field, and performance he is number one. go ahead and raise ur hand if there is ANYONE else u wud rather throw to on 4rth and 15 in the sb with time running out?

    now for the game…ol still needs to tighten up pass protection a bit-didn’t lke to see cp get hit.BA U GOTTA TAKE CARSON OUT IF WE R UP BY 30!!!

    we r not gonna win every game 47-7 and in all honesty we haven’t been tested yet…ol will b against rams..more pressure on qb wud b nice….but we r good across the board. if the cowboys had done EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE AGAINST THE EXACT SAME TEAMS THE NATIONAL MEDIA WOULD HAVE WANTED TO JUST GIVE THEM THE LOMBARDI TROPHY NOW!!!!!

  21. By JohnnyBluenose on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Kevin S Mesa….of course we want to play the Steelers while BigBen is sidelined. We want to win as many games as possible during the regular season so that we can have home field advantage during the play-offs. The easier the path to the play-offs the better. We don’t need to worry about BigBen until we see him in the SuperBowl. And don’t worry about our Cardinals playing down to their opposition. As we have seen, that’s not in their DNA.

  22. By Jimbowan on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    If your done with Kap San Fran we’ll take him. He can sit and learn from the best and emerge a true QB.

  23. By Joe C. on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    So Darren, continuing my thought from last week, don’t you think it would be smart to cut one of the excess o-lineman to hold a spot for D-wash when he comes back?

  24. By Darren Urban on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Joe C. —

    RE: DWash

    1.) Why would you cut someone right now when you don’t need a spot?
    2.) I wouldn’t be holding my breath for a DWash return.

  25. By Bay Area Bad Boy on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Its good to see hard work and due diligence pay off. Great job to Keim, the organization and the team. Proud to be a fan.

  26. By clssylssy on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Give me “fine wine” over the latest flavor of the week any day!

  27. By Jimbowan on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Joe C-
    D Wash is a foregone conclusion. Move on. The team and most of the fans have. We don’t need his bad mojo anyways.

  28. By Joe C. on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    I was kidding folks! However i WAS looking at the inactives and outside of Barkley those are some quality players inactive. And Barkley is an unknown at this time.

  29. By jeffcardinalfan on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    johnny bluenose…u bring up a good point-cards seem to have killer instinct now-something that has been historically missing.

  30. By rio on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    Bears are having fire sale, less go after Robbie Gould, this kicker is money he can kick in bad weather etc . and never misses, Our guy has already miss several since pre season, could cost us super bowl. the bears need a receiver give jaxson stapley they would do it this kid stapley is a gamer who sould be on a team.

  31. By Richard S on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    RANK TEAM* RATING Win margin on neutral field Homefield 3 point advantage
    1 GBAY(1) 99.9 17.29 14.29
    2 NE(5) 99.6 BYE
    3 DENVER(4) 99 11.32 14.32
    4 SEATTLE(2) 98.12 10.6 13.6
    5 ARIZ.(13) 98.02 11.36 14.36
    6 PITT(9) 96.01 3.12 6.12
    7 BUFF(15) 95.27 5.88 8.88
    8 DALLAS(6) 94.71 5 2
    9 PHIL(7) 94.6 10.05 7.05
    10 KC(10) 94 0.44 -2.56
    11 INDY(3) 93.58 12.38 15.38
    12 CINCY(14) 93.56 -0.44 2.56
    13 BALT(8) 92.89 -3.12 -6.12
    14 ATL(21) 91.35 1.8 4.8
    15 CAROLINA(17) 91.03 9.12 6.12
    16 NO(12) 89.71 -5 -2
    17 HOUSTON(16) 89.55 -1.8 -4.8
    18 GIANTS(19) 89.39 -5.88 -8.88
    19 MIA(11) 89.37 0.01 3.01
    20 JETS(24) 89.36 -0.01 -3.01
    21 MINN(23) 87.68 -11.32 -14.32
    22 DETROIT(18) 87.52 -10.60 -13.6
    23 SD(20) 87.09 4.6 7.6
    24 RAMS(22) 86.66 -11.36 -14.36
    25 WASH(28) 84.55 -10.05 -7.05
    26 TENNESEE(31) 84.05 BYE
    27 OAK(32) 82.67 0.51 -2.49
    28 SANFRAN(25) 82.61 -17.29 -14.29
    29 CLEVELAND(27) 82.49 -4.6 -7.6
    30 CHICAGO(26) 82.16 -0.51 2.49
    31 TAMPA(29) 81.91 -9.12 -6.12
    32 JAX(30) 81.2 -12.38 -15.38
    WEEK 4 picks
    15 games
    After week 3, 32/48 66.67%
    Going from Excel to Word and copying that and then transferring to this site didn’t work any better than just going from Excel to this site. Oh well. Hope the Cards protect Palmer as St. Louis tends to take out Quarterbacks and the Cards need a healthy Carson.

  32. By Chuck 1 on Sep 28, 2015 | Reply

    I haven’t seen Bettchers name in the blogs since the win over the ‘Niners.
    I’m surprised that no one has given him a shout out for such a dominant defensive effort. He deserves it, especially after the doubts that some fans had prior to the season.

  33. By AzCard1898 on Sep 29, 2015 | Reply

    The fact that the Team as a whole say they can get Better, is scary, and I for one would Love to see this Team come out this Sunday and do the same thing to the Rams as they did the 49’s.

    Maybe then we, the AZ Cardinals, will get just a few more seconds of High-Lights on MNF!

    GO CARDS!!!

  34. By faster on Sep 29, 2015 | Reply

    frostee rucker, looks like he got his life on track, and it shows at the field.

    saryl washington, i expect him to be back after week 6, and then we will see, if he has a place on the roster. or if he will be traded for a pick next year.

    as for 8-0, i could live with 6-2, if all stay healthy. the twopoints games comes after the by week.

  35. By Credit Card on Sep 29, 2015 | Reply

    I’ve posted this before — coming from a small school and being partial to small school players, I am extremely impressed with whoever is doing the small school scouting. Prior players like Tolar, and current players such as Dennis Johnson, Xavier Williams, John Brown, Justin Bethel, Earl Watford, and Rodney Gunter.

    Impressive work to the scouting department and the coaching staff harnessing their talents.

  36. By clssylssy on Sep 29, 2015 | Reply

    Agree that this game against the Rams is a must win for so many reasons, and to give them at least at least a 40 burger to take home is more than the injuries they have given us with losing Mathieu, Stanton, and Palmer all in games with the Rams..nothing like a sound pounding to put them in their place and show them what a quality team is like. That,”dirty deeds” Greg Williams (architect of Bountygate) was/is their DC is no small coincidence, as reportedly from friends whose teams have played them recently, they are still going in for the low hits which makes me worry for Carson especially.
    I hope that our offense is especially diligent and sharp (hopefully we’ll have lupati back), and our defense again totally dominates with all the class and skill of the real winners they have shown they are. Props to our young DC, James Bettcher for an amazing job coming up with sub packages to keep our opponents guessing.
    Rogers threw for 5 TDs, and IMO, isn’t as good as Palmer so would love to see Carson match him (already he and Brady have the most points in the NFL) with Fitz continuing to outdo himself with eye poppers from the young guys. If Ellington is back, along with Johnson & Johnson, we should be a good test of how good their defensive front really is. GOTTA PROTECT THE NEST WHILE SENDING THE SHEEP PACKING & LOVE’N EVERY MINUTE OF IT!

  37. By jeffgollin on Sep 29, 2015 | Reply

    I want DWash back if for no other reason than he’d add quality depth.

    Anything more should be considered “gravy.”

  38. By JohnnyBluenose on Sep 29, 2015 | Reply

    @clssylssy….I’m a fan of Carson Palmer and he can take us to the SuperBowl and win the Lombardi Trophy. But Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback in the league, especially playing at home. I am very glad that we are playing them at our home this year…especially considering the game is scheduled for dec 27th and it could be a bit chilly in Green Bay that day.

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