Palmer easily puts the pick behind him

Posted by Darren Urban on October 21, 2015 – 4:27 pm

Carson Palmer had no problem admitting his mistake post-game in Pittsburgh. He thought the play-action had sucked up safety Mike Mitchell enough that John Brown was one-on-one in the end zone as the Cardinals were going for the go-ahead touchdown. Palmer was wrong. Mitchell came back from the weak side, when Palmer had no idea he was there, and made what turned out to be the killer interception with a little more than two minutes to go.

Dwelling on it makes no sense. And the Cardinals certainly did not, and have not.

Coach Bruce Arians was blunt when asked how he handles a quarterback who throws an interception.

“ ‘Why the hell did you throw it to him?’ ” Arians said. “He’s a veteran. He told me why he did it and you move on.”

Palmer was even more blunt when asked about his personal process to get past a pick.

“Forgetting about it,” Palmer said.

It’s what you’d expect from a veteran. While you want to learn from mistakes — and Palmer acknowledges he does that — worrying about what’s over makes little sense. The next throw is then what matters. I keep remembering Palmer’s trip to Seattle in 2013. He threw four interceptions that day. You can’t have that, obviously. But in a close game, he didn’t sulk or let it impact his throws, and that’s how he tossed a game-winning TD bomb to Michael Floyd.

It happens. So you move on.

Mike Mitchell, John Brown



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22 Responses to “Palmer easily puts the pick behind him”

  1. By Steve on Oct 21, 2015 | Reply

    I realize that with Bruce calling the plays this offense will always be a pass first team, I just wish he would run the ball a bit more, specifically in the red zone where defenses can’t just sit back anticipating throws all the time.

  2. By Dr.G. on Oct 21, 2015 | Reply

    Baffling item…. A carpenter, a mechanic, butcher, baker or candlestick maker use CORRECT tools for the job at hand, and change tools when the need arises.

    We have a TON of tools on this team negating the need for frequent gambling and misusing our tools. We now have a good O-Line, a variety of threatening receivers, and some good running backs… In the red zone, the TEs, FITZ, and the RBs are called for…no friggin’ need for the homerun play when there is ample time… Here we come balls to the wall…try to stop us…!!!! Why not…afraid?? I loved the Shipley run play in a prior game…!!

    Yeah, we all need to move on, but remember the risky stuff is RISKY…Play this game like real men in the red zone…..later Cards Fans…yeah.. still peeved a bit…let’s not repeat stupid history…

  3. By Vinny on Oct 21, 2015 | Reply

    Hey Darren,

    I noticed Andre Ellington played very little in the Pittsburgh game – I had been looking forward to him coming back. Is he still hurt? Or do they not switch between Chris Johnson and him anymore?


  4. By Darren Urban on Oct 21, 2015 | Reply

    Vinny —

    RE: Ellington

    He is not still hurt. It was the function of the game and the gameplan.

  5. By JohnnyBluenose on Oct 21, 2015 | Reply

    JTDG refers to Arians as an offensive genius as it pertains to drawing up plays. Maybe so. But, more and more, I am reading that others question Arians’ play calling ability. I’m glad I’m not the only one. We have some play makers. I get that and we have managed a lot of big plays since BA arrived. But we have squandered opportunities to win games late due to plays that did not work and did not seem, to me, to fit the situation. And has Arians explained why Ellington only touched the ball once on Sunday? Why he was not a part of the game plan? We are talking about someone who was expected to get up to 25 touches a game this year. I know Arians is not likely to play someone who does not practise but I assume that was not the case with Ellington last week. So, what gives? I expect the usual number of thumbs down but try to remember that it is possible to be a fan and still question why certain things are done or not done.

  6. By rod on Oct 21, 2015 | Reply

    This team isn’t going to lose another game!

  7. By Steve on Oct 21, 2015 | Reply

    Darren: Do you think we will see J.J. Nelson back at the #4 receiver slot at some point soon or did his injury and time away knock him back down behind Golden and Jaron Brown? I think his added speed dimension could help out the offense in more ways than what Brown and Golden offer.

  8. By Darren Urban on Oct 22, 2015 | Reply

    Steve —

    RE: JJ Nelson

    I’m not sure where he stands at this point. I thought he’d be active last week.

  9. By Marcelof on Oct 22, 2015 | Reply

    That pass was a beautiful dart to Brown – and it would’ve been such a must-watch touchdown – but there was just a black-and-yellow dude on the way that made it a must-watch-ending-game interception.

    Baltimore should be an easy matchup (although there’s no easy game in football) but that scares more than it was supposed to.

  10. By Jason Wolfe on Oct 22, 2015 | Reply

    The first INT was OBVIOUSLY not CP’s fault,(bouncing off of Fells & one handed near the ground by defender,)you cant blame him for the first one…but the 2nd one is a whole other matter…(& if 1 back isnt working,hand it off to another one…thats why we have different back “types”in our stable…)…dont get stuck on stupid BA,lots of weapons here!…

  11. By Jason Wolfe on Oct 22, 2015 | Reply

    And has “Big Earl”,(Watford,)been playing any?…he did rather well in the first couple of games in both pass pro & especially in run support…

  12. By shannon robinson on Oct 22, 2015 | Reply

    Bruce Arians will run the football predominately when this line gets going. Fear not. He’s shown every indication that the running game is a high priority. Veldheer, Iupati, Cooper, Watford were all brought in to dominate as an offensive line. They also used their money wisely in the decision to keep and promote Massie. This group didn’t draft Massie but they respected him enough to help him get sober and got him ready to play ball. DJ Humphries is also part of their decision to prepare and develop the run game. If you need more evidence then recall how Mr. Shipley was brought in and how Steve Keim romanced Capt. Sendlein to come back on the Cards’ terms. I don’t leave out Ted Larsen because every team needs an enforcer when required. Look at the loyalty they have for Sowell ’cause he does stuff right consistently. Coach Goody is delivering a running game that will be hard to stop in November and thereafter. Look at all the two tight end sets – this isn’t a secret. Now what amazes me is my friends on this site forget we’re in first place in the division by a game and a half over the team that beat us. There’s a big difference between getting your ass handed to you and beating yourself in a close game where luck wasn’t with you either. For me, I’m not walking up to BA and telling him he ought to think about how he calls a game – it’s not worth that stare and pithy reply. Kinda like getting hit by lightning. Y’all go ahead and worry but at least put the map down, be glad you’re on the bus, but don’t talk to the driver – he’s busy.

  13. By clssylssy on Oct 22, 2015 | Reply

    I worry about our arrogance more than our ability as clearly we have seen where that has taken us for two major losses. I think again we are underestimating the Ravens because of their record this season, but, this is a team that is great under pressure and coming back to close the deal. While they may be in a “rebuilding” mode, they still have the same coach and QB who have not only won a SB, but this is an organization who has been to the playoffs ten time since 2000, winning two SBs in that period; they know how to come back! Who can forget Flacco vs. Manning for the Division Title in 2012? We talk about Carson throwing interceptions, well Flacco has been know to do the same, so, while the Ravens are minus many of the players who took them to their last SB, they still have a few plus the X-factor in John Harbaugh. They say good teams don’t lose twice in a row, and the Ravens lost to the 9ers last week so will be seeking the same redemption and validity as the Cards so I’m hoping we’ll come out strong (like we did against the 9ers) PLAY SMART BUT PHYSICAL, and keep the peddle down until the clock runs down and the final whistle blows, with the Cards emerging with a big W.
    Great teams aren’t one season wonders and have a legacy, so, to those who think this is going to be a cake walk because the Ravens have had a slow start, please KNOW THY ENEMY! Be confident without being cocky…we’ve seen where that gets us!

  14. By Marcelof on Oct 22, 2015 | Reply

    JohnnyBluenose –

    What’s BA’s record so far?!
    How many have we won due to his play calling?!

    It’s no use question a couple (literally) games we lost. As it is written, the play should’ve dragged the safety out of the backfield, Palmer didn’t see him. I still believe it was an outstanding playcall, however it should’ve been changed by Palmer if he had seen the turn of events.

    Remember the bom that gave card a W last year against eagles? and the one Staton hit John Brown against Rams, aaaa and the Seattle game as aforementioned.

    Come on, Bruce is giving Cards the best change to put on a ring.
    For me, keeping on going downfield.

  15. By TucsonTim on Oct 22, 2015 | Reply

    I just want to hear BA take some blame for the terrible call in the first place. 4 trips to the red zone and 2…YES 2, running plays. And even if it’s completion for a TD, they didn’t have much trouble moving the ball. In fact they moved from the 20 to score with exactly the same amount of time left if we had scored!!! And don’t give me the defense would have played tougher, they should have played tough to get the ball back.

    BA called 3 passing plays for every running play with a top of the league running game waiting for his call. And for what ever reason, CP wasn’t having his best day; so, calling more running plays and controlling the clock would have been prudent with 2 minutes left.

    That safety was playing 15+ yards deep all day. Why would he bite on the fake when we had given up on the run and they had 7 in the box anyway.

    Everyone makes mistakes…even BA.

  16. By Dr. G. on Oct 22, 2015 | Reply

    TucsonTim…eloquently stated….total agreement as I alluded earlier.

    Robinson…Albq fan…your previous posts noted to be thoughtfully analytical with your entitled opinions. You may want to permit others to have their observations as well…

    Some of us will not accept blindly the mistakes or efforts made. We try to see the things that can make the team better regardless of our record. We have terrific personnel and they need ((should)) be used to their best advantage.

    Keim is great at getting the tools…. BA needs to be smart, not tricky with the personnel he has been given. I sense a departure perhaps dictated by Bidwill they need to be autonomous… Keim is smooth in interviews, but will not agree that his tools are implemented as he sometimes wishes… thinking out loud…be well…

  17. By georgiebird on Oct 22, 2015 | Reply

    The Cards over under for games won in the 2015 season is 8.5.
    Unless Palmer starts beating some of the better teams, 8.5 games looks about right.
    For Palmer to not read the free safety against Pitt is not good- that’s a mistake made by rookie QBs and those with a year or two of experience. Since Palmer can’t run the football, his reads have to be on par with Brady and the Mannings if the Cards are going to win anything. And the Mannings are having problems of their own.

  18. By coach K on Oct 22, 2015 | Reply

    Palmer needs to be smarter with the football in the Red-Zone. Relax and not get so tight. He has been choking in every game we have been behind. Relax Carson….Relax.

  19. By Skodly22 on Oct 23, 2015 | Reply

    Horrible play calling.2 plus minutes left why rush to score/A couple of nice runs take a little time off the clock,no need for the quick strike,bad execution by a veteran QB.This is not the first time CP needs to improve on his decision making of course we have won plenty with CP and BA its better than its ever been but we should still be unbeaten lets get Andre involved a lot more now that he is ready.Much improved offensive line but where is our #1 draft choice 1st rounders are supposed to be impact players is he a bust?

  20. By Kevin S Mesa on Oct 23, 2015 | Reply

    In BA’s defense, he had just run the ball 2 out of 3 plays on the previous set of downs. Chris Johnson got a net 2 yards on those two runs and so we were facing 3rd and 8 on the Pitt 39, needing a TD to take the lead, and then Palmer completed a 19 yard pass to Brown.

    The stat line shows 20 rushes for 55 yards (2.8 YPC) and 414 yards on 45 passes (9.0 YPA).

    This whole idea that you just run a couple times to take time off the clock… well, that might work, or you might end up in another 3rd and 8 — just like happened just two plays earlier — with no option but to hope your passing game bails you out. You can’t assume you’re going to score a TD. You don’t want to run the clock down — you might need the time to score later if you don’t get the TD. Running the clock down is something you do when you’re in FG range and that’s all you need.

    Look, I get that based on the result of the play, it’s easy in hindsight to say, why did Palmer make that throw; what a horrible play call; etc. But this idea that everyone seems to have that we should have just run the ball and all would be good… I don’t get it. Chris Johnson ran the ball 14 times, with 3 4-yard carries, 2 3-yard carries, 3 2-yard carries, and 3 losses of -2, -2, and -3 yards, along with two good runs for 11 and 8. Not very effective. The passing game had been effective all day.

    I’ve got no problem with Arians calling for pass plays there. He himself mentioned that Palmer had Fitz open underneath. If Palmer made that throw instead of the one he tried to make, no one is complaining now about not running the ball.

    Palmer threw it to a guy that was covered. That doesn’t mean passing the ball was a bad idea.

  21. By Kevin S Mesa on Oct 23, 2015 | Reply

    Edit: 4 4-yard carries, not 3.

  22. By John The Draft Guy on Oct 23, 2015 | Reply

    johnnybluenose and others;

    Play calling;

    play calls are only as good as the execution. If Palmer turns to his left and hits a wide open Fitz, it is a TD. Palmer thought the safety was sucked up which he should have been since Fitz was crossing in front of him wide open. I think Palmer assumed Mitchell would follow Fitz (since he is our best receiver) instead of laying back.

    If Palmer sees what the safety is actually doing, it is a TD and everyone is praising BA and Palmer for the great play call, play design, and great read.

    Palmer made a poor decision. Simple as that. The play design had a wide open receiver for a TD. Palmer just threw it to the wrong guy.

    As for run plays, Palmer checked out of runs 4 times. He saw something.

    Ellington has lost his role as the offensive going through him. He can’t stay healthy and BA evolved. CJ runs better between tackles. I do think keeping Ellington fresh going into december is key. An explosive, fresh ellington will pay off in late december when everyone else are feeling the effects of the long season. Look for more Ellington later.

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