Patriots aftermath

Posted by Darren Urban on September 11, 2016 – 11:04 pm

No way around it: That one hurt. You can say over and over that it’s the Patriots and Bill Belichick is the arguably the best coach in NFL history, and I do think the Cardinals worked hard this week on avoiding overconfidence, invoking last year’s painful loss in Pittsburgh. Still, losing to the Brady-less (and Gronk-less) Pats would be easier to take if the Cardinals played well and they were outplayed. It didn’t feel that way, though. Losing on a missed field goal actually seemed apropos for the evening. Close, but not enough. The Cards looked off in all three phases.

The last time they lost an opener at home, it was a disappointing outing against the 49ers in 2009. The Cards won 10 games that season. We’ll see how this one plays out.

— Would Mike Leach have delivered a better snap on the final field goal? Probably. But I will say this, I have big-time respect for Kam Canaday, a rookie from Portland State who hasn’t had many chances to be interviewed period but who stood there in front of a flood of cameras and reporters answering questions about a play he’d rather soon forget. He’s in the NFL and it comes with the job, but still, he manned up.

(And props to Chandler Catanzaro too, not only for doing the same but also saying publicly it wasn’t the rookie’s fault.)

— It’s too bad the field goal was missed because a win would have been one of those epic, Fitz-put-us-on-his-back victories. On a day the retirement thing came up again to boot. The vet was spectacular when they needed him.

— Speaking of which, if you get a chance, watch again Fitz’s 21-yard catch on the Cards’ final drive. Down on the field near where Fitz caught it, I have no idea how he did. The ball was on him before he got his head all the way around — it seemed to surprise him how quick it was there — yet he unbelievably snagged the pass and turned it into a 21-yard gain.

— Rough debut for rookie cornerback Brandon Williams, who blew a coverage on a touchdown and had a couple other mistakes. Justin Bethel, dealing with the sore foot, only played special teams I believe. You have to wonder if Bethel getting healthy or newcomer Marcus Cooper getting more practice will change the lineup at any point.

— Bruce Arians said J.J. Nelson could have returned with his shoulder injury. We will see. But there was Jaron Brown making a clutch catch at the end, setting up the final field-goal attempt. He’s there when the Cardinals need him.

— David Johnson looked pretty darn good.

— The defense, overall, didn’t. Or at least, it didn’t look like everyone expected. The Patriots had 363 total yards and converted 10 of 16 third-downs, and it was that last drive that was the killer. The Cards get the lead and then allow Jimmy Garoppolo to convert a 3rd-and-15 from his own 20? Can’t happen. Especially for a 32-yard gain. A stop there, and it’s hard not to think the Cards would’ve been in great shape even only up one with 8 minutes left.

“Back to the lab,” linebacker Kevin Minter said.



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  1. By Cardsfan8848 on Sep 11, 2016 | Reply

    Stop sticking up for chandler and drew butler their the definition of trash but Bruce Arians doesn’t see untold it’s too late

  2. By Jcard on Sep 11, 2016 | Reply

    I put this loss on BA. He did not have the team ready to play. They got outplayed in all three phases of the game against an undermanned team. The Cardinals looked sloppy throughout the preseason and now it has carried over into the regular season. Arians should have played his starters more in the preseason when they were struggling to find cohesiveness on offense.

  3. By shane on Sep 11, 2016 | Reply

    things i learned

    First off i would like to say im proud of what this az team has built over the last 3-4 years .. this team was a laughing sock now there playing 4-5 prime time games each year . So for all thos cards fans that are emotional right now calm down .

    1. The whole team came out like they had been reading nfl,coms news clippings and got put into place .

    2. i have no doubts this will in the long run make this team better .. they learned a very important lesson tonight .

    3. this team will bounce back! i know its easy too get all mad & emotional with these kind of losses .. but really it does no good just relax

    4. I was proud of how carson & larry and this offense went down the field and were clutch & put this team in position to win even tho they tho the team unperformed ..

    5. I have full faith in cat man .. he was partly to blame for the miss but the dude has kicked many game winning field goals for the cards & he will bonce back ..

    6. Go cards !! Get better every week and these mistakes will fade

  4. By Steve on Sep 11, 2016 | Reply

    I have a lot of respect for Kam Canady as well for answering all the dreaded questions he knew he would have to face following the game but the reality is his poor snap to Butler upset the timing of Catanzaro’s kick. Kent Somers made a great point that through all the years Mike Leach was with the team he hardly ever got interviewed, which is a good thing for a LS and shows just how good Leach was. I hope Kam can learn from this and move on. The Cards have not played particularly well from the preseason to now but I think they will regroup and get back to their winning ways soon.

  5. By TucsonTim on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply


    Heard so much BS on the radio driving back to Tucson tonight.

    Palmer and the receivers needed to knock off the rust. Well, maybe they should have taken a couple more snaps in pre-season. Yes, they did look quite rusty. Carson should be buying steak dinners for Fitz and J Brown, not for the receptions, but for the fine defensive plays they made on Palmer’s terrible almost interceptions. Anybody notice the Patriot kid didn’t have a single almost interception, let alone a real one???

    Cardinals are really deep on the defensive line. Yep, deep in quick sand. Once again the highest paid non performing defensive lineman (hint, wears 93) had half the tackles of a player half his size….pathetic.

    Is C Jones going to be the equivalent of Kevin Kolb for the Cardinals??? In a game against his former team, against rookie O-linemen and back ups, and a very inexperienced QB, he looked barely average.

    Special teams…holly F, where to begin. Like why haven’t you already fired the special teams coach. Can’t kick and can’t cover….did I leave anything out? Yep, can’t return. It’s sick that our best hope on receiving a kick off is a touch back. Otherwise, we start 15-20 yard line. And yes we still field the worst punter in the NFL.

    One more thing. The Cardinals totally inept game plan on both sides of the ball. Without Fitz, this is a 23-7 blow out, or worse.

    This isn’t about losing one game. It’s about how you come back from a terrible NFC championship game, it’s how you look against a perennial championship team , it’s about how you look against a very inexperienced QB, and finally it’s about how you protect the nest and your fans on opening day.

    So our movie stars of All or Nothing have started this super bowl season…with a big fat nothing.

  6. By dan on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Brandon Williams keeps playing like that we won’t win many games…..he ain’t ready.

  7. By Kevin S Mesa on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Everyone will have their plays that bug them… Darren mentions the 3rd-and-15 where Garoppolo had enough time to make a sandwich and then threw the 30+ yard completion. I was also disappointed we didn’t go for it on 4th and 1 early, but I at least see the other side of that one.

    For me, the play that was the most irritating was a minor one in the scheme of things. We are the beneficiaries of a 15-yard penalty for leaping on an extra point, so we’re kicking off from the 50, and Cat is told to just boot it out of the end zone, giving the Pats the ball on the 25. This after watching Ellington get brought down on multiple kickoffs well inside the 20.

    Why wouldn’t you at least TRY to boot the ball high and short there and force the opponent to try to run it back from the 5 or so? I mean, I’m OK if on a normal kickoff, our staff has decided that we’ll just take the touchback and let the opponent start at the 25. But if we don’t have the confidence in our coverage team to cover a kickoff when we have the advantage of a 15-yard start, that’s pretty bad… again, especially when one considers the Pats were able to cover Ellington easily starting from the 35.

  8. By Mark Saltman on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    I wish we still had Powers and Johnson. Defense looked terrible.

  9. By Scott H on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Well, I said before that a loss here would be disappointing and a lost opportunity. And it was both.

    On the Friday before blog, I spoke at length about how the Cardinals could lose this game by playing flat / making mistakes / letting the Pats hang around / and blowing it on something like a missed FG ( among some other possibilities ). Not surprisingly, I got raked over the coals for that post. OK. For those who objected to that, did ya watch the game? Well, why don’t you tell me now what you think about that?

    But that was what I thought COULD happen. What I thought WOULD happen was the Cardinals winning the game. Didn’t happen. What I hope is that people aren’t lining up to blame the long snapper for this one. Please. Yeah, the snap was off and that was probably a factor in the kick being missed. But give me a break. SHOULD IT HAVE REALLY COME DOWN TO A LAST SECOND FG??? No. A re-sounding NO. The Cardinals spent most of the night losing this game, one play at a time. They started flat and pathetic on offense. They were bad on defense all night. Tackling??? Yeah, some of that would have been nice. Stupid penalties. And mostly poor special teams. My God, did we get a KO return past the 15 yard line all night???

    Oh, and here’s a news flash – our punter sucks. Flat out sucks. He sucks now, he has sucked since he got here. WHY DOES THIS MAN HAVE SUCH JOB SECURITY HERE???????

    But we didn’t lose the game because of the punter, either.

    Palmer played very well. Some iffy throws that could / should have been picked off, but they weren’t. DJ is for real. The kid is just a great player. He is special. And Fitz….my God, what more can we say about him at this point??? Just continues to do nothing but make plays. Maybe the best hands the game has ever seen. And, BTW, he continues to show us the level that he plays on but Michael Floyd does not.

    What else is there to say?? This was a team loss. The Pats were almost un-recognizable on offense. Other than Edelman, Amendola, and Blount, who else did you even know other there last night??? And yet they came in here and went right through our defense. The pass rush was NOT there and we saw it again, that if you give even a back-up a QB enough time, he can find an open receiver to get the ball to.

    And finding open receivers wasn’t all that hard for Garappollo, was it? Good lord……we are in such trouble at CB. And it took ONE game – against a back-up QB – to see it. I felt bad for Brandon Williams, too. Because this is NOT his fault. This is the fault of the team for allowing this situation to become what it is right now.

    Not a good start. And not the day off I was looking forward to.

  10. By Ottis Anderon Fan on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    What is it with this defense giving up 3rd downs – and often long – at the worst times? Same thing last year.

  11. By jetstreamgreen81 on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    This one hurt. Besides Fitz and David Johnson (who is a beast) no one showed up. Why didn’t the Cardinals run the ball more? 37 passes to 17 runs? Why didn’t David Johnson get the ball once on the last drive? Arians piss poor use of timeouts or lack thereof in the first half until he had let most of the clock run out! There are more negative things I could bring up and say but this team needs to look in the mirror and wake the F##### up! Fitz on his 1st touchdown and the catch you bring up was amazing and classic Fitz. 1 game @ a time and they better come out prepared for the Bucs this week. Long season but if it is more of last night, it will be a long one. Also why were we blitzing a short passing team that just ran the crossing pattern all night especially in the 1st quarter. Everyone knew it was going to Edleman and the Cards didn’t adjust @ all.

  12. By 'ZonaFan89 on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Stupid game. Who cares though, it’s Week 1, to an AFC team, does it really matter? Need to bring our game against the Bucs next week though!

  13. By Eric G on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Awful performance from everyone but Fitz and David Johnson.

    Watching last night, i have no idea how in the hell Canaday is in the NFL. His long snaps to Butler were slow. There will be at least one blocked punt this year, maybe more if this continues. Then, his last snap. One job dude. If you don’t have a spot set up at your home to practice by now, you better.

    Defense was just deplorable as well. How in the hell was Edelman open so much last night? He’s their only good receiver. As for Williams, can’t expect anything but what happened for a guy playing corner for just one year. Keim and Co. screwed the pooch on this issue. Maybe Williams will be good in 2 or 3 years, but he’s going to cost us big if he stays out there. And why was there no safety help for him? Bettcher needs to fix that. Peterson doesn’t need a safety over him, Williams does.

    Just an all around pathetic game and it showed a good coach vs. a great coach. Bellichek knows how to get his team to compete and win even when they are outmanned on the road. The Cardinals, on the other hand, showed why they aren’t ready to win a super bowl by coming out flat and seemingly just expecting to win without trying. They looked like the unfocused team in the playoffs that barely beat Green Bay at home and got their ass whooped by the Panthers.

    Unless things change, I see an 8-8 team at best.

  14. By Marlin on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Our defensive coordinator got out-coached. Special teams continue to be a concern in the “Arians Era”. AMOS??? Tampa Bay coming up is no slouch. We gotta pull it together. Go Cards…

  15. By georgiebird on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    This game is on BASK:
    1) Brandon Williams not nearly ready
    2) Ellington is not a KR
    3) JJ and Smokey too fragile and don’t play that fast-Jaron better

  16. By georgiebird on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    On the Snap:
    Yes, the snap and hold were not perfect. But it was good enough to get the field goal done. Cat rushed the kick worrying about the distance (47) and did what most kickers do in that case-he hooked it.

  17. By texascard on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Why not run the ball three straight downs when we get the first down in field goal range. It forces opposing coach to burn all time outs. Good chance dj can gain first down. A lot less risk. I know that was a bad game team and coach wide but why not impose your will.

  18. By georgiebird on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Glad you said the Cards’ defense didn’t look good. Why should the defense look good? Who are the great players? Even Peterson who does well on pass defense is a terrible tackler. Yes, a lot of pretty good players but there is no Larry Fitzgerald on the defense. That’s why so many 3rd and longs were converted.

  19. By Cynicalogre on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    The two things that stood out to me were 1. would they please put in someone on kickoff and punt returns that isn’t afraid to run up the field instead of heading straight to the sideline or diving to the ground as soon as contact is close. 2 Please teach the defense how to wrap up on tackles. On two occasions that I saw a 3rd down conversion would have been prevented if the defensive player had wrapped up the ball carrier instead of going for the big shoulder hit. It’s not just the Cardinals doing it it seems to be an epidemic in the N.F.L. of just plain old lack of fundamentals.

  20. By Low on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Why did Chris Johnson only have one run he was the biggest part of the cards run game last year an to see him with only one carry really pisses me an others off get it together B.A !!!!! If this is how the seasons going to go give the ball only to a rb who hasn’t even done anything in the nfl wow Chris Johnson lead the whole nfl in rushing last year b4 he got hurt !!!!!! Sorry game!!!

  21. By NJAzCardsFan on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    If Brady and Gronk played it would have been a blowout for the Pats….

    B. Williams belongs on the PS. Cortland Finnegan is available, despite being cut twice. He couldn’t be any worse than Williams. It is obvious the Cards needs CB help….ASAP!

    It looked like the Cards took this game as an automatic win…. A disgusting performance.

  22. By John The Draft Guy on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Scott H,

    “And finding open receivers wasn’t all that hard for Garappollo, was it? Good lord……we are in such trouble at CB. And it took ONE game – against a back-up QB – to see it. ”

    Really? I think I have been saying it all preseason. Williams is just plain terrible. Any thing else said about him is just spin.

    And to think, Here come Winston and his 23/33, 281 and 4 TDs. Nothing to worry about here.

  23. By Shawn P on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Looked a lot like pre-season, especially on special teams. Our special teams is awful and I don’t get that? Think about this game we lost with around 4-5 of their best players at home. Maybe its too soon… But… I feel like we are in trouble and that the hype is going to hurt us. Better to lose early I guess….

  24. By Dan'O on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Besides the other poor performers, not much mentioned about our crappy quarterbacks performance.
    Even though the front office including, Arians say they are not worried about the quarterbacks they have, they really should open their eyes and minds, and forget about the wasted money they have invested in both of them, and get a few quarterbacks that can perform.
    Oh ya, they possibly had one with Barkley, but once again they let a good one slip away.

    BTW what I saw with the placement of the ball before the kicker (another waist of $$$) the ball was placed seconds before he missed again.

    ALL or NOTHING, I felt after they made that foolish statement, this season might not turn out so good.
    0 and 1

  25. By Kevin S Mesa on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    NJAzCardsFan says: “If Brady and Gronk played it would have been a blowout…”

    This is actually one comment where I disagree. Garoppolo went out there and played… well, he played like Brady. He completed 72.7% of his passes — you think Tom is doing much better than that? No interceptions and only seven yards lost on sacks. A lot of screens and dink passes and then a few longer ones where he took advantage of our inexperienced CB.

    Our pass rush still leaves something to be desired, especially on third and long. Bowles would be blitzing the beejeezus out of an inexperienced QB. I still remember the final play of the Eagles game when Foles was forced to throw because a sea of Cardinals were in his face, and his receiver couldn’t make the catch and stay in the end zone.

    I’m as disappointed as anyone in the loss, but the reality is, it may as well have been Brady out there, because really, who could tell the difference? Now, was that because Garoppolo is really that good (a high 2nd round pick who’s been studying under Brady for a while now…) or is it because our defense is that bad? We were decent against the run — yeah, they got 106 yards, but that was on 31 carries.

    If you told me before the game that Palmer would have a rating over 100, David Johnson would run for 5.6 yards per carry, we wouldn’t turn the ball over and we’d recover two fumbles in NE territory, I’d have said we’d win for sure. Instead, it was a combination of a bunch of little things… Poor special teams play in all facets (punting, KO returns, kicking off ourselves and not trying to pin the Patriots, and of course the FG miss)… Not having the guts to go for it on 4th and less than a yard at midfield on the opening drive, something that analytics will tell you over and over to do, and then having a crappy punter unable to kick the ball decently so the opponent is able to run it back to the 26 anyway…

  26. By clssylssy on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Watching Jimmy G., I thought he looked like a young Tom Brady, same technique, calm, confidence, more physical…I think he will be better. Why is it the Cards can’t see talent that other teams seem to, can’t blame draft order for everthing! And, there is a reason BB is considered the best coach in the NFL, and we saw it up close; the man really can turn a pigs ear into a silk purse or at least manage his talent to make up for deficits and win against supposed superior talent! There’s a reason the Patriots have all those rings, and it starts with technique and proper execution of basic skills.
    This is NOT, last years team, and all the hype has done us no favors. As pointed out, we do not have another Fitz on defense. HB is a great player but is one person and doesn’t seem to be his 100% savage self, plus, we have all these young colts w/o the Veteran leadership to keep them from stupid mistakes like “celebrating”. Keim’s idea of “going young”, it would seem, has cost us big time in our secondary and I would have loved to have R.Johnson’s football IQ, & Jerrud Powers on hand last night even if they aren’t as fast. I do not blame Brandon Williams for the unrealistic position Keim has put him in and just hope we don’t ruin him before he has time to develop.
    Perhaps Calais SHOULD be a little more worried, or at least acknowledge we’re not playing as good as advertised.
    And, why not try Chris J returning punts? He is tougher and more tenacious than Ellington or JJ and what could it hurt. He should have played more last night but it seems BA is Hell bent on saving Ellington’s job trying to give him more work at any cost.
    Very disappointing loss to the JV squad of a a great team but not altogether a surprise. We have not learned from our mistakes and this should be a huge wake up call for everyone! We need to do more than just show up, ESPECIALLY for the home opener! We just dropped from 1st to 3rd in our Division, in the blink of an eye!

  27. By Kevin S Mesa on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    I already posted about my least favorite play (kicking the ball through the end zone from the 50 instead of trying to force a return). My second least favorite play of the game came on the drive after NE kicked the FG to go up 10-0. We started at the 19, and moved the ball well, picking up some first downs to get into NE territory. Then, after a couple DJ runs, we had 3rd and 2 from the NE 31. So, we’re already in FG range.

    And instead of running a simple, high-percentage play that’s designed to get a few yards and the first down, Palmer gets sacked for an 8-yard loss, presumably while surveying the field for one of Arians’ “chunk” plays.

    So now, instead of having a decent chance at 3 points, we have to bring out Butler to punt. And punting from the 39, he still can’t pin the Pats back any more than their 16, where they may a fair catch… we net a grand total of 23 yards of field position on the punt. Big deal.

    That’s the one thing about Belichick’s teams… he pretty much always runs a play in that situation that’s designed simply to get the first down. And, the majority of the time, he gets it. (And even if he doesn’t, if he has his QB throw a quick slant or a screen and it gets dropped, he still has a FG he can kick there.)

    We live and die by Arians’ propensity to go for chunk plays. On that particular play, we died… There’s simply no way Belichick calls a play that allows Brady (or Garoppolo) to take an 8-yard loss on 3rd and 2 from the opponent’s 31.

  28. By Scott H on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    JTDG –

    RE: I’ve been saying it all pre-season

    Yes, we are well aware. It’s not like I just became aware of the problem last night! I’ve been expressing the same concern myself, several of us have. But last night counted. That seems to bring it home a little more than during the pre-season.

    And the problem becomes even more horrific if the pass rush doesn’t get any better than it was last night.

    Note to Chandler Jones – we brought you here to rush the passer, not to dance.

  29. By John The Draft Guy on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Kevin S Mesa,

    I agree about the kickoff. I, too, thought kicking it away was stupid. Especially when you keep guys like Lamar Louis just for special teams. You and I could stand out there if they are going to kick it out of the endzone.

    Scott H,

    When something is so plain to me and it seems like the cardinal brass can not see it, it drives me crazy. I know you have been with me on Williams. It was so easy to see, why couldn’t Keim see it or why couldn’t he address it? I would be the worst owner, cuz this type of stuff is so unacceptable to me.

  30. By Dr. G. on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Scott…jtdg… Yeah…rush the passer vs dancing comment…just plain stupidity and ignorance of the “celebration” rules getting a big penalty, but lookin’ cool. …shows how the coaches//players need serious class room time to understand the game. And what can I write on PPXXI? He has never demo’d leadership by example…missing a 3rd and long tackle and seemingly lost at times…&more.

    If the Cards are supposed to be touted to be a top-tier team, they did not display it yesterday. Coaches//staff//players need to get their ship together… The Pats schooled them on how to play with their cerebellum…no show boating…even post game…later ugh…

  31. By krehbieo14 on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Here’s my biggest concern:
    Toward the end of the 2015 season and into the playoffs, the Cardinals defense broke down in all phases of the game. They were giving up big plays in the passing game consistently with minimal quarterback pressure. This season, the Cardinals are supposed to be “taller, faster and more athletic” in the secondary. The pass rush is supposed to be dramatically improved with the additions of Jones, Nkemdiche and the return of Peters. And yet, last night was a continuation of last year’s season ending demise. The defense looked unprepared and lacking in leadership. IMO, this is not an easy problem to rectify. I hope we figure it out before it’s too late.

  32. By dkerry5242 on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    The Seahawks found a way to win a tough game when they were out played. We were outplayed and lose a very winable game to a team playing without their best. Now the Seahawks are in first after one week and we find ourselves with a tough game next week, while the Seahawks play the Rams who have to play on a short week. Very disapointing to see Fitz play his butt off while others seemed to give a lackluster effort. Let’s hope we don’t fall two games behind the Seahawks.

  33. By JohnnyBluenose on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Not too many positives to come away with after last night’s game. We were outplayed physically, except for david johnson and larry. on defense, tony Jefferson was the only one who seemed to play with a chip on his shoulder. and I totally agree with the others who posted about the stupidity of kicking the ball out of the end zone from the 50 yard line. someone needs to explain why that decision was made. larry said the other day that this is the best team he has ever played on. I’m not so sure. there is potential but an attitude adjustment is in order.

  34. By TucsonTim on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Kevin –

    I think everything you need to know about our kick off and return team was summed up in the last 2. And every team we play for the rest of the season was watching!!!

    Our kick from the 50 which allowed them to start from the 25 was an embarrassing admission of our inept special teams play.

    They on the other hand, kicked to #38 on the 3 and we ended up starting that last drive on the 8.

    This isn’t the sky is falling BS. It’s how we play special teams and we did it all pre season. Nothing changed

  35. By Scott H on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    JTDG –

    Yeah, great point about the 3rd down pick-ups. It seemed like the Pats were converting them all night. The Cardinals were not making stops. When they had the Pats at 3rd and 15 on that last drive, I was jacked. It felt like we were finally going to get a stop and PUT a stop to the nightmare that seemed to be pending for most of the night. And when they converted……the feeling of embracing the horror settled in instead. And then a conversion on 3rd and 11 a few plays later??? No. That is NOT a defense we are winning a SB with.

    Our secondary looks to be a season-long disaster in the making. But what can they do about it now?? They have who they have. Williams may improve as we go, but… guarantees he will be good enough even if he does. Antonio Cromartie of 2014 is not walking through that door.

    As to your questions…..I got nuthin. Seems like this was just a blind spot for them this year. I get your questions about HOW that can happen, but… did. Shoot, I’m still waiting for them to fix the blind spot that has not allowed to see how bad the punter is! And right about now, this team could REALLY use a good punter.

  36. By Kevin S Mesa on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Scott H —

    That 3rd and 11 conversion bugged me even more than the 3rd and 15. At least on the 3rd and 15, the Pats were legitimately trying to extend the drive. When they ran the ball on 3rd and 11, it was obvious they were content to just gain a few yards and set up the go-ahead FG try. And then we couldn’t even bring the guy down until he rambled for 13.

    In the scheme of things, it may not have mattered, since the Pats only came away with a FG anyway, but it extended their drive for 3 more plays and forced Arians to use his remaining timeouts. Who knows what happens if they don’t get the first down there?

    When you’re on defense and a team gets a first down by accident, you have a problem.

  37. By Canadian Redbird on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    We definitely need a punter !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since the playoff game against the Panthers in 2014 where he couldn’t kick it out of his shadow; this problem hasn’t gone away. Even if we brought some one in to put Butler on notice. Doing nothing is not acceptable !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  38. By Infitzwetrust on Sep 12, 2016 | Reply

    Our biggest glaring need last year was a pass rush which keim addressed during the off-season proving that he was in win now mode with clear intention to reload the clip.

    Its amazing how we opted for a rookie for cb#2 and let go of quality depth in the secondary – Its not like those players broke the bank elsewhere or that our cap was in that bad of a place.

    Seems like we traded al a 16 clip with only 15 rounds for a 10 round clip with all 10 rounds.

  39. By Scott H on Sep 13, 2016 | Reply

    Kevin –

    RE: 3rd and 11

    Yeah. Me, too Right after the 3rd and 15 was converted, we had them right back in 3rd and long in no time. And it was just another punch right to our gut when they picked that one up, too. I had become very confident in our offense by that point in the game because they had seemed to get on track. But I wanted a defensive stop and we couldn’t get one. Our offense got us into FG range and then the ST’s dropped ( shanked?? ) the ball.

    Very frustrating. Defensive stops on either of those plays would have been critical because we would have gotten the ball back with no Patriot points scored, and with the lead. Sure, you never know what happens but most of the likely outcomes there were in our favor. We score a TD, game is probably over. We tack on a FG, it’s now a 4-point game. Or, maybe we just string together a few first downs and run out the clock.

    Those first downs killed us. Although, as stated, the loss was really a cumulative effort over the course of the game. The offense was not without blame but the defense and ST’s were the real culprits.

  40. By Eazy E on Sep 22, 2016 | Reply

    What a gut-wrenching loss here! The Pats outplayed us overall. Very disappointing way to start the season!


    Carson had superb numbers going 24-37, 271 yards, and 2 TDs, but boy do those numbers lie for a big chunk of the game! The offense didn’t get going until like the 2nd Half.


    Their were not many holes to run through. Some of those holes David made by himself with his juke moves. He had 16 carries for 89 yards(Beautiful 45 yard Scamper), 4 Catches for 43 yards also and a TD. Carson gets more rushes/carries than CJ2K??? 1 carry for 2 yards!


    What can’t Larry do at the WR position?! He put us on his back and almost carried us home with his 8 grabs for 81 yards and 2 crucial and clutch TDs! Michael Floyd only had 3 catches for 61 yards, quiet day! Gresham had a nice game with his 4 grabs for 41 yards.


    They had a poor game! They allowed 3 sacks, I don’t know how many hurries and pressures, etc. Carson didn’t seem comfortable all night really until the 2nd Half and deep into that. 92 yards rushing is hardly terrible, but they didn’t move guys off the ball like they should have!


    Pass Rush wise we collected 2 sacks(Chandler, Markus), but overall not enough pressure consistently and beyond the sacks. They had a lot of 3 step drops and we didn’t get in Jimmy’s face nearly enough on those short drops. Where you at Calais?? I know he recovered a fumble, but besides that, not really any impact! Frostee made plays with his 3 tackles and a sack. The aforementioned Chandler Jones and Markus Golden had very good games with a combined 7 tackles, 2 sacks, FF, FR. They out rushed us 106-92 also like wth!? Minter and Deone didn’t have their best games either.


    Very disappointed how soft we were playing and all the zone we were playing in the 1st half! Brandon had a rough game because this is his 2nd year playing Cornerback in HIS LIFE! He got beat by Hogan which was unacceptable because you must at least get a jam or punch in and a simple move beat him! They definitely targeted him big-time and stayed away from Pat! Speaking of Pat, why the hell wasn’t he glued to Julian Edelman from the bus?! The Honey Badger Tyrann Mathieu in his 1st game back I thought looked pretty good considering the circumstances and still trusting his knee with 7 tackles although his impact wasn’t Honey Badger like. Tony Jefferson played well with his 10 tackles and overall good play along with Tyvon Branch playing solid ball. We just gave Jimmy too many easy throws and didn’t make him pumpfake for what seems like the whole entire game!


    I know Cat Man took the blame, but Kam screwed that snap up and threw off his rhythm big-time. Kicking is a lot like a golf swing like Jay Feely and other kickers always say. Timing is Everything!!! Drew Butler had another difficult game with his average at a paltry 32.4… Kickoff and Punt Returns were bad also and brillant coaching by Bill Belichick to pooch those kicks and not give us those 5, 8, 10 yards! Smart ass coaching from Coach Belichick!

    Very disappointing game from Real Super Bowl Contenders! 1 Game Though, 1 Game Though…

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