Comings, goings, kickers and Dansby

Posted by Darren Urban on March 9, 2017 – 5:21 pm

Free agency started Thursday and it was busy. As expected, Calais Campbell left, as did Tony Jefferson. And D.J. Swearinger. The Cardinals kept center A.Q. Shipley, and they found a new safety in Antoine Bethea. Things are moving at a rapid pace all across the league. That’s pretty normal.

— The safety trio of Tyrann Mathieu, Tyvon Branch and Antoine Bethea should be OK if Mathieu and Branch can stay healthy. That’s the hope.

— It’ll be Boehm vs. Shipley for starting center. Nick Mangold isn’t walking through that door. Don’t forget that the Cardinals felt comfortable with the job Shipley did last season. Boehm will get his chance, but I don’t think the Cards are worried if Shipley is the starter again this season.

— Bethea was released, so he does not count in the compensatory pick equation. Campbell, Jefferson and Swearinger will, and with the large deals Campbell and Jefferson got, the Cardinals are well ahead in the 2018 comp pick game. So there’s that.

— It looks like linebacker Karlos Dansby could end up with a third tenure with the Cardinals. That’s huge, man. Huge. Mostly because Kevin Minter — the man who replaced him after the 2013 season — is a free agent and who knows if he will return. Dansby had more than 100 tackles with the Bengals last season, so he’s still plugging along.

— Dansby is older (he’ll be 36 during the season) but not as old as kicker Phil Dawson, the former 49er who looks like he’ll be coming to Arizona as well. If Dawson does, that’s the steady kicker the Cards didn’t have a season ago. The Cards have moved on from Chandler Catanzaro.

— Like Catanzaro, tight end Darren Fells was a restricted free agent whom the team did not tender. Fells is going to visit the Lions.

— Should hear something soon on the official front with the Chandler Jones extension, but judging by reports it’s going to look a lot like Olivier Vernon money ($80+M in potential value, $50+M in guarantees.) Which makes sense, because Vernon’s deal always was the likely benchmark for an extension.

— On the first day of the new league year, the NFLPA had the Cardinals with $21.3 million of salary cap space. That’d be prior to Bethea and Shipley signing (and tight end Jermaine Gresham, who officially signed his contract Thursday as well.)

Day one is done. Hopefully.

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49 Responses to “Comings, goings, kickers and Dansby”

  1. By Corgon on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    I don’t understand what is happening.
    Campbell was out of our range. Sad story for us, good for him, ok.
    TJ is good, we want him back, but not 9 mill per year good and we don’t want him that bad. They moneyslapped him….again good for him, best wishes, I’ll miss him, but ok.
    But here we are with DJ S. 13,5 mill for three years from the Skins and the Cards didn’t matched that? He played well enough for that kind of money, and they let him go….and picked up the 33 years old Bethea from the street to replace both of them? Please…
    Branch is a bust. We can’t count on him. With a cut the halt of DJ’s salary for the next year would be there.
    Is this the part where we are try to keep our proved free agents or is this the part where the Cards are agressive on the market. By the way, 3 good guards already found new home and there wasn’t a single word or a small gossip about the Cards and them.
    On the bright side, we have Los back! That’s cool, i love the man! But still…is this the best news on the first day? I’m dissapointed.

    And by the way. If the 7 mill per year for Gresham gossip is true, then we have a problem. There would be the other half of DJ’s 2017 salary. I hope someone just misunderstood something.

    Last but not least, I have a crazy hunch that Dawson will have his worst season in 2017 and tha Catman will bounce back. I don’t like this either.

    I know Keim is in a tight spot, but I thought this could turn out better somehow.

  2. By aschatte on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Stop the Blood Bath, this is Carnage!!! We lost 2 impeccable Safeties in Jefferson and Swearinger and the big man Calais. Mathieu is almost injured every time, what is happening in AZ? I still think we should have signed Fells with the rest of the untested Tight Ends that we have almost every time on the injury list. We will probably lose Cooper as well. I almost as if players knew time has run out on AZ for the SB window…Speechless!

  3. By 2liberal on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Not happy with Karlos, Bethea and Dawson – old guys , when they go downhill, tend to go downhill FAST. Mathieu does not have a history of being able to stay healthy.

  4. By joe holst on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    I want Donte Hightower asap.

  5. By Jeff on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Thanks Calais, hope going through the motions pacified you this year. Apparently the money means more than a ring. Good luck

  6. By CardsNation on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply


    Bethea signed a 3 years deal and Dansby signed a one-year deal. How much were they?

  7. By Darren Urban on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    CardsNation —

    RE: Numbers

    Haven’t heard on Bethea. Dansby hasn’t even made it to the building yet and he’s definitely not signed.

  8. By NJAzCardsFan on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Dansby coming back…???
    If he does, he will do well, because of the talent around him….

    Now, if we could just get D Wash back…. =LOL= Just kidding!!!!

  9. By steve on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Sorry to see CatMan go but wish him the best, class act and I thought he was a solid kicker.

  10. By shannon robinson on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Los is back – how’s that for splash! The Cat Man was a favorite of mine – his loss is sad tidings. C A Q Shipley ( the man with three initials ) is a positive signing – a serious guy we need the T-Rex! A Tip of the Cardinals Wing to DJ Swearinger as well – thanks for the hits! Mr. Bethea was a difference maker for the Niners so now he needs to do it again for us. He is very talented.

  11. By Ric Italia on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Are the Cards trying to field a team to compete in the AARP league rather then the NFL. Dawson , Dansby and Bethea are nearly as old as coach Moore and B.A,

  12. By CardsNation on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    We fix the safety situation, RG is my biggest concern. I think we should sign D. J. Fluker to one year and 1.5 millions deal.

  13. By Eric G on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Didn’t realize Cat man was out, but welcome Phil Dawson. Also, welcome back Dansby, Gresham, Shipley, Mauro, Ross, and, of course, Jones.

  14. By kauaicardsfan on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Wow we getting Dansby back! and a new kicker and safety! Love the moves!!! GO CARDS!!!

  15. By ADiaz on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Welcome home Karlos!

  16. By Marlin on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Good strategy by Keim and company. Sign a few seasoned vets to bridge/mentor a strong draft class. Keep the cap situation healthy. I like it.

  17. By jerrytown on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Can’t put a price on leadership. Swearinger apparently was a problem in the locker room. We pick up a true leader in Bethea, a solid in the box safety, and people are whining because he’s 32? Dawson is money in the bank, kickers can play until they’re wearing depends. Dansby arguably had a better season than Minter. What’s the complaining about?

    We don’t have a lot of money to play with. We’re making smart, cheaper moves to fill out the roster and provide depth. I like what we’re doing and I’ll bet there’s more to come. Those looking for a splash, Chandler Jones was it. I’d rather be in this position than San Fran with 400 million to spend because their team is garbage.

    The only move I’m not a fan of is Gresham. I thought we overpaid by quite a bit for a guy we rarely utilize.

  18. By Marlin on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Thanks Calais! But we’re moving forward with new guys. Go Cardinals !!!

  19. By Rod on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    I like the moves actually. Have faith people!!

  20. By BChimp0 on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Best of luck Catman! The for the Christmas game-winner!

  21. By JTDG on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Jefferson Contract;

    From what is posted right now, the Jefferson contract is 4 years / 36 million – 9 million a year with 14 million guaranteed.

    Not as impressive as one might think. Basically, in year two, his salary is 9 million with only 5 million guaranteed, so they can cut him in year 2 and save 4 million in cap space. Years 3 and 4, nothing is guaranteed. He got no Bonus money at all.

    Back on Feb 17th, I thought the cards could sign Tony at
    8 million bonus – 15.6 million guaranteed with a 5 year 35 million.
    At first glance, you think less money. But more guaranteed , which is what matters most. The structure of it would have cost the cards only 2,6 million in cap hit.

    Instead, the cards went with a 32 year old safety, who will need to be replaced in a year or two.

    I get not paying Campbell who is on the wrong side of 30, but I don’t understand the logic of letting a good young player go.

  22. By JTDG on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    Back in Feb 17th here is what I thought Kevin Zeitler and Stephan Gilmore would go for and how we could sign them (along with Jefferson)

    By JTDG on Feb 17, 2017 | Reply

    Kevin Zeitler is looking at a 5 year 60 million.
    Giving Zeitler a 10 million dollar bonus with 30 million in guarantees and 2 million in salary in 2017.
    2017 he will count 4 million against the cap.

    Gilmore – Janoris Jenkins inked a 5 year 62 million dollar deal with the giants with 10 million in bonus and 29 million in guarantees. Same thing applies.
    5 years, 65 million with 14 in bonuses, 32 in guarantees. 1 million in salary in 2017 with a 4.8 million cap hit .
    2017 – salary of 1 million with cap hit of 3.8

    In my examples, we could have had Jefferson, Zeitler and Gilmore for the money they signed for but would have only counted against the cap for 10.4 million

    FYI – Zeitler signed for 5 years / 60 million with 31 million guaranteed with the Browns. While Gilmore signed 5 years 65 million with the Patriots.

    So much for aggressive attack of FA like promised.

  23. By Eazy E on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    First Day of Free Agency:

    Calais Campbell: I’m going to miss the Big Fella at that RE spot in our 3-4, but he said something like, ”the ring is the thing” and then went to Jacksonville! I don’t know where we were pricing him, but we couldn’t give him darn near Chandler Jones Money! Calais at times was as dominant a linemen or dare I say it a defensive player as there was in the league, but it wasn’t consistent enough to be with the likes of J.J. Watt, Von Miller, his former teammate Patrick Peterson, etc. I’ll always say that athletes should get the money, but I thought if we offered him a similar deal average wise to his 11 M per season but maybe a year or 2 less, that he would sign, but if we didn’t, shame on us there!

    Tony Jefferson: I hate to see another homegrown player go that was so good once his chance arose but he had to chase the money as a former undrafted free agent and he went to a decent team in Baltimore to pair with Eric Weddle!

    D.J. Swearinger: I thought for sure that we’d retain him after it looked like weeks ago that it was unlikely that he’d sign, but he left too and I agree with Corgon up there with the first post that we should have definitely had him in the bag for sure!

    A.Q. Shipley: He had a very underrated season last year only missing 2 plays and will easily beat out Evan Boehm!

    Jermaine Gresham: I really like Gresham and hope he’s a bigger part of the offense besides blocking and catching a few passes.

    Chandler Jones: No-Brainer

    Antoine Bethea: Good pickup to replace Tony Jefferson. He’s not as good, but he’s a good, solid safety.

  24. By Eazy E on Mar 9, 2017 | Reply

    he’d meaning Tony Jefferson, not Swearinger in Swearinger’s analysis.

  25. By Scott H on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    jerrytown –

    RE: Swearinger was apparently a problem in the locker room

    He was?? When? Do tell. Because we certainly weren’t hearing much of anything to that effect last year.

    Like others, I am not happy with the losses of THREE key players from last year’s D. I was hoping that it was going to be an either / or thing with TJ and Swearinger. Didn’t happen. And the addition of a 32 year old Bethea isn’t really doing it for me right now. A trio of HB / Branch / Bethea isn’t really doing it for me right now. Didn’t Branch go on IR last year – TWICE???

    Yeah, that trio could be pretty OK IF a lot of “ifs” fall the right way. But ya know what….we went into last year with some “ifs” that really didn’t work out well at all. I was hoping for less of that going into 2017.

    Only the first day, but… far, not too happy.

  26. By mitchaz on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply


    DE Calais Campbell—amazing that Campbell got the same money per year ($15M) as his 2016 cap number for the Cardinals. He and his agent played the market perfectly. However, did Campbell’s play warrant a $15.4M cap figure in 2016? In my mind, it did not. In the key 4 game stretch that determined whether the Cardinals could make a push for the playoffs, Campbell registered 12 tackles and 1 sack (losses to MIN, ATL and MIA and a win versus WAS). Now comes another question—where will he play in the Jaguars’ 43 defense? Campbell is made to order as a 34 DE, but is he a 43 DT? A 43 DE? I would guess DT, seeing as Campbell has not shown he can be a productive edge rusher on passing downs.

    Should the Cardinals have offered Campbell 4/$60M? No.

    SS Tony Jefferson—$9M a year from the Ravens, who certainly pay a premium on signing and drafting tough guys. Seems he was heavily recruited from the get-go by FS Eric Weddle and he and Weddle have the potential to be one of the top safety tandems in the league.

    Should the Cardinals have offered Jefferson $9M a year? No.

    FS D.J. Swearinger—this defection is hard to understand. Swearinger was the first FS in quite some time to intimidate opposing WRs, RBs and TEs. When Jefferson was out, DJ stepped in at SS and played just as well as TJ did. For some reason, the Cardinals weren’t sold on DJ. Yet, they raved about his work ethic, his diligent film study and his brash, aggressive style of play. They say they want guys who have a passion for the game and who are the first guy in and the last guy to leave, and yet when DJ gave them all of that and more, they let him walk at a modest $4.5M a year.

    Should the Cardinals have offered Swearinger $4.5M a year. Yes.


    SS Antoine Bethea—going to be 33 this year, but still plays at a high level and is thirsty to win. Adds veteran leadership, toughness in the box…but the question is how effective he is in pass coverage, an area where TJ showed very good growth. Bethea will put every ounce of effort he has into it—but is he fast enough and agile enough to stick to TEs and RBs?

    C A.Q. Shipley—this was a signing for continuity and depth. Shipley is a high effort guy who played a tad above average in 2016. Chances are he will remain the starting C and he has a good rapport with Carson Palmer. However, it would appear that Evan Boehm has more upside and long-term potential, so does this signing slow Boehm’s growth another year or two? Not buying Boehm as a full-time starter at RG. At C. yes.

    K Phil Dawson—might be the best signing of the day. Dawson is steady and consistently accurate. With Matt Wile on board, Dawson won’t have to worry about kicking off.

    LB Karlos Dansby—what is surprising about this move is that it happened on the first day of free agency when there were so many other options to consider. Clearly, the Cardinals want to move on from Kevin Minter who was a solid box tackler and improved inside blitzer, but not fast or athletic enough to be a consistently productive cover man. What the move suggests is that the Cardinals will use one of their first three draft picks on an ILB and Dansby will be the stop-gap on a team that is loath to play rookies. Dansby is a step or two slower than he used to be—he’s a cagy, angular chase and cover ILB, but has never been a downhill stopper in run support. While he lacks the burst he once had as a blitzer he is able to threaten passing lanes with his size and wingspan.

    Day 1 Grade: D

    In my opinion, this was a tough first day for the Cardinals. It was understandable why Campbell and Jefferson were destined to move on. Losing Swearinger, to boot, was a mistake, especially at $4.5M a year (3/$13.5M). Swearinger is a far better option at age 25 than Bethea is at age 33. Plus, he can play both safety spots, whereas Bethea is not effective as a FS, nor is Mathieu or last year’s regrettable signing, Tyvon Branch.

    While the Shipley signing was understandable from a depth and continuity standpoint, Boehm should be the starting center today, not tomorrow.

    The best signing was Dawson. Without him this grade would be an F.

    The Dansby signing is just pure laziness on the Cardinals’ part. The defense needs to get faster and more athletic and much better across the board at tackling and covering–these day 1 signings indicate that the Cardinals are content with the status quo (or even worse than the status quo), which is one of the main reasons why the rest of league is passing them by.

  27. By NJ Cards Fan on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    They need Gresham to block for David! He can still catch but blocking is key at this point. I like the moves. No problem with the ages…team is built to win now. Keep adding depth so you can draft best available talent! Go Cards.

  28. By Hammy on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    Very pleased with the free agent signings thus far. The biggest impact signing was locking up Chandler Jones for the next 5 years. This guy is a beast! Time for Nkemdiche to unleash! Hope sitting all of last year helped him transition to the starting DE spot. I like the direction we are going in in terms of finding quality veteran players for a reasonable price. Cant wait to see the finished product.

  29. By D on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    Smart to ask Branch to take a pay cut.

    M. Cooper, CB, still out there….probably will sign with someone today..

    Guessing a J. Evans or J. Jerry at RG would upgrade this Oline? Bringing back the same Oline who allowed “Carson to take a beating” per BA is not improving the Offense…

  30. By Scott H on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    mitchaz –

    Interesting that you describe Shipley ( and quite accurately so ) as a high effort guy who might have played a bit above average last year. Yeah, that is a pretty perfect description for Shipley – just as it was for Sendlein during all those years he was here. Sendlein was an average Joe type who just worked hard to be as good as he could be ( which was never really any better than adequate ).

    Shipley seems to be pretty much nothing more than a continuation of Sendlein. Not bad, but….good enough? I wonder.

    If you’re a SB contender ( or WANT to be ), don’t you have to be better than that at center at some point???

    Like yourself and maybe some others, I am hoping this Boehm kid can give us more than adequate. Given that what we have at center is basically average by NFL standards, shouldn’t we ALL be hoping for that???

    I agree with your Day One grade. Yes, losing Swearinger WAS a mistake. I don’t get how / why we let that happen. We are already looking at significant turnover on the defensive side of the ball. And I question the extent to which 33 and 36 year old players are going to be the answer.

  31. By Patirck on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    Some are saying Campbell should be in the ring of honor, if Dansby comes back for a third time, he should be in the ring of honor. Who can forget the Packers overtime win, plus so many more memorable moments. Dude has been a heck of a player.

  32. By JTDG on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply


    Campbell – 4 years/ 60 million;

    Should we pay that?

    First, you need to see the structure, which isn’t out.
    The only number that matters is 30 million guaranteed. Most likely, he will not see the other 30 million.

    Is it 15 mil a year? Or is there a bonus of 15 million, 5 million salary and 10 million salary in 2018, and then 15 million in 2019 and 2020.

    Because in the example I just gave, Campbell would count against the cap 8.75 in 2017, and 13.75 in 2018, then he can be released and count as a 7 million dollar hit.

    Back in Feb, I basically had the same deal without the 30 million guaranteed. If you add a little more to the bonus and guarantee year 3, it is basically the same dollars as he got.

    JTDG Feb 17th
    4 year 40 million with 12 million in signing bonus.
    He has a 2 million dollar salary in 2017 making his cap hit at 5 million.
    That gives him 14 million in pocket year one.
    2018, he has a 8.6 million salary with 11.6 million cap hit. if released, he counts as 9 million in dead money.
    In 2019, he has a 8.6 million salary, 11.6 against the cap and 6 million dead money against the cap, freeing up 5.6 million if released.
    2020 – released with 3 million dollar cap hit.

    You could change that 40 to 60 million. Add a little more to the bonus, play with year two, but bottom line, he got 30 million dollars, which the cards could have given him and still kept his cap number low in 2017.

    Frankly, I could give him 4 years / 100 million with 30 million guaranteed, with 70 million in year 4 as salary and it is the same contract. He won’t see year 4, and probably not year 3 depending on structure.

    Now, I will accept the argument that he is 30, and it isn’t worth investing money into 30 year olds. We also have a bunch of young dlineman to step in. That was the plan.

    But dollar wise, we could have made 30 million work.

  33. By JTDG on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    So Darren,

    Remember this;

    By JTDG on Feb 17, 2017 | Reply

    Chandler Jones (for reasoning, please go back to Palmer – Body says no blog)
    So I would sign him to a 6 year / 105 million dollar contract. with 53 million guaranteed.
    That is 17.5 a year with 53 million in guarantees.

    I go on to explain how I would structure it to save cap space in 2017.

    Well the cards signed Jones to a 5 year, 84.5 million dollar deal with 53 million in guarantees. It averages 17 million over the first 3 years.

    Basically, the same contract I was saying. So, tell me why this was not done in early Feb?

  34. By JTDG on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    Flashback Friday;

    2016 draft;

    By John The Draft Guy on Apr 1, 2016 | Reply

    So, here is what I would do if I were Keim.
    1st round – #29 – I would take Jaylon Smith.
    I mean, if you had a shot to draft Patrick Willis or Brian Urlacker but the only catch was he will sit out a year, would you? Or would you trade the 29th pick for the 2nd overall pick next year?
    Taking Jaylon Smith is equal to those examples. I think I have settled on who I am looking for the cards to draft. Jaylon Smith

    Update – Smith is running full speed and has his 40 down to 4.5

    So, with losing Jefferson, wouldn’t it be nice to move Bucannon to safety, and have Dansby and Smith at ILBs

  35. By D on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    Wow, Bill Belicheck continues to kick everyone’ butt..It’s almost like Varsity vs Tball

  36. By mitchaz on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    Scott H—

    It’s hard not to like A.Q. Shipley’s attitude and love for his team and his job. It’s easy to see why the coaches like him…and, just as you say, he’s very much in the Lyle Sendlein mold…lunch pail guy who has had to work and scrap for everything he’s earned. Man, I just fell in love all the more with Sendelin on All or Nothing.

    That said, did the Cardinals draft Evan Boehm in the 4th round to be a backup, swing C/G? Or did they draft him to be the starting center. Physically, Boehm looks the part and he is every bit of the gym rat that Shipley is.

    As much as I like Shipley, I think it would be great to keep him for a few years as the backup center. But, it would feel like Earl Watford (another 4th round pick) all over again if Boehm doesn’t win the starting job.

    It is mind boggling to me that the Cardinals let Swearinger walk when he was one of the few players ion the team that showed an interest and an enthusiasm and a skill for tackling. This team needs more intimidating tacklers like him and now he’s gone. Plus, he was getting his hands on a number of passes and crediting it to his extensive film study of each opponent.


    Ypu are Mike Disner, Jr., my friend! Your capology posts are right on the money (pun intended!). Really, man, you know exactly how to make the numbers work, and they are doable and, as you say, all about the guaranteed money and how to allocate it throughout the length of the contract.

    That said, how do like the news from Tony Jefferson that the Cardinals first offer to him this off-season was 4/$12M/$6g…to which TJ’s agent didn’t even dignify with a response. What a freaking slap in the face. That’s less money than they gave the struggling Tyvon Branch and way less that what they gave Justin Bethel. All for the guy who was by far the best tackler on the team the last two years—and for one of the only guys who showed up in Carolina in the NFCCG and delivered on 15 tackles.

    The Cardinals upped the ante last week to 4/$24M/$12g…but by then the bridge had been burned.and Jefferson wound up getting 4/$36M from a team that puts a priority on tackling and playing tough.

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  38. By D on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    Clearly, this week has reflected the 2017 season will be as last before total demolition. Hard to guess on the available CAP Space, but asking prices will continue to drop as we get further into the weekend.

    Available options as of this post for holes to fill:

    RG: John Jerry / Jahri Evans (TJ Lang too much $ for available change Mr. Keim has remaining.
    OLB: A. Okafor
    CB: M. Cooper / K. Webster / M. Claiborne / draft
    Safety: draft
    ILB: draft
    WR: J. Hunter / B. Quick / draft
    RB: D. McFadden / C. Johnson / C. Michael
    Future QB- draft

  39. By faster on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    dawson? win now mode!

  40. By NJAzCardsFan on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    Darren- Do you think Rucker will be re-signed…???

    Has there been any contact as far as you know with CJ2K??? There doesn’t seem to be much interest in him around the league so far…..

  41. By Darren Urban on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    NJAz —

    RE: Rucker

    We’ll see. I wouldn’t rule it out and it makes a lot of sense to me. As for CJ2K, that’s a harder one. Would he want to sit a lot behind David?

  42. By Richard S on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    Like I said in an earlier post months ago, I thought some of the kickers were deliberately not trying to kick the ball into the endzone as they didn’t believe the receiving team could get it back to the 25 yard line. Now I hear the new Cardinal kicker say he hasn’t been trying for a touchback as the Niner’s didn’t want that to happen. The new rules really don’t want players getting hurt by running the ball out of the endzone and the sport has evolved by having kickers deliberately kick the ball short to make for collisions.

  43. By Scott H on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    Swearinger was last year’s version of what Dansby was in 2013…what Cromartie was in 2014. They all had two things in common – all they did was make plays when they were here. And they were all gone the next year.

    And just as we missed Dansby and Cromartie when they were gone, we will probably miss Swearinger, too.

    So far, the losses on the defensive side of the ball clearly outweigh the gains. I’m hearing people talk up the maturity / leadership aspect of the older players that are coming in. But wait a minute….weren’t we also getting those things from the guys that have left??? Calais Campbell and Tony Jefferson didn’t provide those things when they were here, in addition to their top notch play on the field????

  44. By Patti Bond on Mar 10, 2017 | Reply

    Sorry Card fans our D took a big hit losing our safetys and Campbell and now picking up the old guys will not work. Best we will do is 8-8 and no play offs. It hurts.

  45. By faster on Mar 11, 2017 | Reply

    old guys?
    dansby and rucker add a lot of expierence and leadership and they add it for a lot less money then cc and jefferson.
    so i would not set my expectations so low as 8-8.
    remember, two missed field goals and we would have played in the post season. now, with lawson, i expect another run for the bowl.

  46. By clssylssy on Mar 11, 2017 | Reply

    Experiece, yes…leadership, not so much. Dansby has always been a “me first, moneyball player, which is ok because this is a business and he’s never pretended it was anymore than a very well paying job, but, “selfless leader” hardly. Rucker is a decent lunchpail player but nothing about this defense screams WOW while the rest of the league is spending big and going balls to the wall.
    After what the Browns did, it makes one wonder why Keim didn’t shop Jefferson & Campbell for some draft picks earlier? Or,maybe he did & isn’t a good horse trader. Darren, do you know of they tried to deal any players?

  47. By Darren Urban on Mar 11, 2017 | Reply

    Clssy —

    RE: Deals

    Deal players that were going to be free agents? That makes no sense whatsoever.

    If you are talking about before last season, they thought they would be able to keep Jefferson. And I do believe there was consideration about a Campbell trade once they saw it would be hard to keep him. But they were intending to make a Super Bowl run. So keeping him made more sense.

  48. By clssylssy on Mar 11, 2017 | Reply

    Most teams tract their player contracts/cap a few years out so, it sounds as if the decision to gut our defense was a forgone conclusion last year which also indicates that all the talk about Superbowl aspirations this year was hot air, which is pretty much what I thought. After twenty plus years, actions DO speak louder than empty words that rapidly becomes white noise and it seems old patterns of behavior are hard to break out of. There was that glimmer of hope there for a minute!
    Im sick of the old excuse about the Cap. Every team operates within the same Cap and the key to winning Championships is tied to how good the GM is at working the financial angles. Simple solution seems to get somebody who is good at that part of the job–the Browns really did, as well as the Patriots, etc.
    The handwriting was on the wall.

  49. By Louis Callegari on Mar 13, 2017 | Reply

    turn on the pumps the ship is sinking.

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