Texans aftermath

Posted by Darren Urban on November 19, 2017 – 4:25 pm

The focus going in to Sunday’s game was the quarterback. That made sense. The Cardinals were on their third one of the season and it is the most important position on the team. And for the most part, Blaine Gabbert acquitted himself pretty well. There were the two picks late, and you can’t have those, but the Cards were chasing 10 points by then.

No, it was the issues that have been around all season that doomed the Cards in Houston. A running game that has echoed the struggles of the pre-Adrian Peterson ground game. A defense that makes some plays but just can’t clamp down when the team desperately needs it. An offense that needs to find more consistency overall.

— Drew Stanton was healthy enough to be the backup Sunday. Could that mean he’s healthy enough to start next week – and does Bruce Arians drop him right back in? (I know the public-at-large’s answer.) Gabbert did look very comfortable, and he clearly has some chemistry with rookie tight end Ricky Seals-Jones. That makes sense, because Seals-Jones and Gabbert have been working together on third team since the offseason. We’ll see. It’s fair to point out the Texans secondary has struggled quite a bit against the passers it has seen, and next week’s game against the Jaguars will feature one of the better secondaries the Cardinals have seen.

— Speaking of secondary, the Cardinals sure look like they have a star-in-the-making back there with rookie safety Budda Baker. He was everywhere Sunday. He was great on defense and continues to play so well on special teams – I repeat that he deserves (heavy) consideration for the NFC’s Pro Bowl special teams spot.

— Bruce Arians opened his press conference by taking the blame on the failed fourth down. I’ll admit I was on the move when the play happened, seeing it on the TV screen as I made my way down to the field. But I agree that the Cards had been stuffed all day inside. There wasn’t much to get, but the Texans made it obvious the wanted Gabbert to try and beat them. It was going to be tough sledding for Adrian Peterson on every run play, and the fourth-down try was only the one in the spotlight.

–Peterson ended up with 13 yards on 12 carries after his first two totes gained six and seven yards.

— I do think the absent D.J. Humphries makes a big difference when it comes to the run game.

— The Patrick Peterson vs. DeAndre Hopkins battle was exactly how it was expected to go. Peterson did give up the back-to-back big plays, finishing with Hopkins’ TD. But he broke up/defended a bunch of other tries, and nearly got a second interception late in the game with perfect technique. It’s funny that his first pick was on a pass that wasn’t even thrown to Hopkins or at Peterson. A deflection, and the right place, right time.

— Speaking of missed chances on turnovers, the Cards were there. There were a couple of other fumbles on the ground by the Texans that the Cards just couldn’t fall on, in addition to Peterson’s near-pick. Tyrann Mathieu also dropped a deep pass that could’ve been an interception, although the play was wiped out by an Arizona penalty. The Cards need all the turnovers they can get. At least they converted their two short-fields into TDs.

— Arians said he’d be going to different receivers this next week. That would seem to me that Chad Williams has a chance to be active, but other than that, I’m not sure where you turn. Maybe more Brittan Golden? I don’t see them bringing up Carlton Agudosi from the practice squad, but who knows.

— As much as Tom Savage had struggled this season, it hurts to give up a 97.1 passer rating to him, and 31 points to the Houston offense without the aid of turnovers.

— Fitz was asked about playing in 2018. He did not answer, one way or the other, and wouldn’t even say if he’s still thinking about it. So he leaves everyone in suspense – and makes sure the questions keep coming probably more often than not the rest of the season.

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  1. By DC on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    The season has gotten away from them, put Gabbert in for remainder of games.
    He is young enough to keep for a future starting QB after Palmer retires. Stanton can go, he knows the playbook well but makes poor selections on field.

  2. By Ken Moroney on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    Time travel is real because I just know it must be back when Kolb was quarterback and our play calling was soooooo predictable and our defense dared any quarterback to throw for first down play by playing way way off them; and we could not get any rush on QBs. Terrible play calling yet again….going on fourth wasn’t stupid….not having any imagination on what to call was and is the real tragedy. I ask all you loyal fans…regardless of who the QB is..or what lineman we pick up..and even if we have Logan/Johnson/Peterson as RBs…if BA is calling plays, do you believe the outcome will be different in 2018 or 2019? Sorry, but when you tie your future and my leisure time NFL viewing and cheering and spending money on Stanton, if he succeeds you should get a raise. But when he is terrible..and you demanded he stay along with your DC and Special teams coach stay….then you must go elsewhere. I have zero faith in BA…none….nada…he is fiercely loyal to a fault and as stubborn as can be!!!!

  3. By Matt on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    In my opinion Gabbert played better than Stanton did and should be the starter. Meanwhile, our defense screwed us again and we need a spark.Losing Corey Peters did not help inside and DJ Humphries didnt help. Relatively a quiet game for Chandler Jones. Liked what I saw from Buddha.


    Is Arians’ seat warm yet

  4. By Eric G on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    Savage looking like a top 15 qb tells you whether or not Bettcher is a defensive coordinator. Clearly he is not. I hope he is fired. Obviously teams have figured out his d. I’m not even mad any more. I just expect it and have accepted the fact that this team sucks long ago, like week 3. I watched, rooted for the cards, but at the same time, expected just about everything that happened. Ugh.

    I’ll repeat, if this team doesn’t draft a top 3 qb this offseason, I’m done. Carson must retire. If Stanton and Gabbert are the only options at qb, my 29 years of loyalty to this team ends. Keim should be fired too. BA, as great as it has been, his offense is sophomoric and predictable.

  5. By DZ on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    Haven’t we seen this movie before?
    Should have been inactive.
    John Brown. A Ghost on the field and all passes go right through him.
    J J Nelson. Hands of stone, guaranteed to disappoint and kill momentum.
    J Grisham. As expected, too dumb to learn from past mistakes. Many many past mistakes.
    Honey Badger. Typical 2 steps behind his cover guy. Needs to be benched. Has lost “IT”, both mentally and physically.
    J Bethel. Very consistent. Giving up TD’s and as a bonus, holding on every punt we recieve.
    K. Williams. I’m still pissed about last week’s 2 yard line fair catch. Oh and Bethel held on that play too. Williams adds nothing to this team in a positive yards way. Except for when he takes a knee in the end zone on a kickoff.
    Play calling. You would have thought we learned our lesson on the Safety last week right? Uh, well, no… lets do a single set back that is 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage take the snap under center. No one will know what we are going to do right. It’s only 4th down on our own 38 or so yard line.
    Even Ronde Barber (Johnson) said the Cards offense has no imagination. And Ronde can’t get Larry Fitzgeralds name right. 3 times even.
    I was encouraged by a coach today though. Unfortunately it was the DC on the other side of the field.
    Vrabel would look good in red calling all the shots

  6. By NJAzCardsFan on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    I listened to the game on the radio and watched the NFL network for the updates.

    Gabbert seemed to do a very decent job,especially when considering his lack of playing time. I hope he gets the chance to play again. He can be a good #2 QB for this team if not a #1…..

    WHATEVER THE CARDS DO NEXT SEASON THEY MUST FIND AN O-LINE THAT CAN BLOCK….. Gabbert would have been better if the O-Line blocked better for him…. Poor AP had no holes open up for him to run. He must be really frustrated as everyone else is.

    BA 4yh/1yd running play call was stupid since there was no running game to begin with, the whole day. A play-action pass to Fitz would have been a better call.

  7. By drblogubc on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    We are realistically on track for a 4-12 finish. In hindsight, it’s a shame we won those close games against the Colts and 49ers. At 2-14 we would have likely ended up with the #2 position in the draft, with Cleveland at #1. There will possibly be a few 4 win teams, maybe even 3 win teams. So I don’t know where that leaves the Cards in the draft. Regardless, there are so many weaknesses in every aspect of the game that it will likely take a few years of high draft picks to get to an 8-8 team. And as many have repeatedly said, some fresh coaching talent is certainly a top priority.

  8. By georgiebird on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    The Cards defense is BAD- Healthy but BAD.
    I may question the play call on 4th down in our own territory but going for it was definitely a valid option. The defense just can’t be trusted. Too many soft spots on the run and on the pass. As I have said many weeks ago- the HB is DONE. And Bethel is a disaster.
    Next draft make it all defensive players. Yes, we need guys on offense, too, but we need guys on defense more.
    Missing Person’s Bureau- has anyone seen Chandler Jones?????????

  9. By georgiebird on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    I think Belichick knew what he was doing when he got rid of Chandler Jones. Jones is a one trick pony.

  10. By El Gallo on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    What happened to the notion of “smart football”? From the FO and HC all the way down the staff. It’s one thing to say, “they may know what we’re going to run but they have to stop us”. Well they Do know (run or pass) and they’re stopping them! That’s not even counting dropped passes. So what does the HC do, more of the same. Predictable calls, have to play from behind on most downs due to multiple penalties resulting from frustration or lack of player discipline.. Where’s the smart football?
    On defense why so much zone play, why give opponents receivers huge gaps of space to catch all day on our guys? Too Many Easy Yards! Especially on critical downs don’t let your man catch the ball “cat defense” (I got this cat you have that cat) but still they play off their man allow them to catch anywhere on the field? But our offensive unit can’t do the same but a few plays (not speaking of Fitz here). No need to harp on the bad play calls at end, they speak for themselves. Gabbert gave it a valiant effort.
    SK, why is K.Willimas still fielding punts/kickoffs?? What success has he had, are there no other available men out there? Are you really waiting till T.J. comes back? You have Foster there now he’s an athlete might as well try whatever works for the time being. Small problems in all 3 Phases of the game that turn into big problems at the end of the games. To include field position and time management, where’s the sense of urgency at the end knowing your down, saw a lil of it today finally but it wasn’t precise or methodical. It’s unacceptable, completely frustrating to loyal fans who put in time, hard earned money and faith in the team and that you can’t get back. Something has to change.
    -Had to post, Longtime fan here

  11. By georgiebird on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    John Brown and JJ Nelson- why are they here? They would be stars in Flag Football League.

  12. By Scott H on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    Here’s a quote from Arians – “We’ll be looking at some other receivers next week.”

    OK….and what exactly does that mean?? Is there another WR room we don’t know about? Another group of WR’s we’ve been keeping in the basement just in case?

    Here’s what I don’t get – guys who GROSSLY under-perform on ST’s for long stretches ( Butler, Dawson ) hear no such threats and just keep doing their jobs at sub-standard levels. Oh, but let the WR’s have a few off games and we’re gonna be looking at other guys.

    Heck, even Justin Bethel got close to half a season before he got benched. And Justin Bethel wasn’t even the guy who was REALLY responsible for not being good enough at CB.

    Look…..two things about accountability –

    1) There should be some. And,

    2) It should be consistent.

    Maybe if we ever get around to doing #1, we can then start working on #2.

    FWIW, I don’t really get people being so up in arms about the play call on that 4th and 1 play. Actually, from what I understand, it was LESS than a yard. Well, in that situation, you SHOULD be able to tell your O-lineman and a RB who has been a pretty damn good player during his career that we gotta have it, fellas, so GET OUT THERE AND GET US A STINKIN’ HALF A YARD. Was that asking too much??? Are you friggin’ kidding me???

    Look, I’ll put it on BA for poor play-calling when we call two long passes on 1st and 2nd down, in a game situation where that is ridiculous. Oh, and we KNOW we’ve seen that. BUT when we need HALF A DAMN YARD and our guys can’t get it with Adrian Peterson? No. That is NOT the coach or the play call. THAT is just a simple failure to execute a running play to gain 18 damn inches. At some point, your damn O-lineman need to be able to get a half a yard for you, I don’t care what their names are. That’s on them.

    Maybe we should be looking at some other O-lineman next week. Or, perhaps the off-season would have been a better time for that. Ya think?

  13. By Canadian Redbird on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    Could we please get a new offensive coordinator. BA should stick to being a head coach, if he’s lucky enough to keep his job and hire an offensive coordinator, preferably under 70 yrs of age. 4 th and inches, you load up the box and hand off to Petersen. Thats NOVICE FOOTBALL. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What did you expect to happen. Try watching Brady ( Quick count QB sneak ). Sorry Bruce, the game has passed you by !!!!!!!!!!

    The best news of the day was the play of Gabbert. Receivers need to do a better job catching the ball !!!!!

  14. By Canadian Redbird on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    Could we please get a new offensive coordinator. BA should stick to being a head coach, if he’s lucky enough to keep his job and hire an offensive coordinator. 4 th and inches, you load up the box and hand off to Petersen. Thats NOVICE FOOTBALL. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What did you expect to happen. Try watching Brady ( Quick count QB sneak ). Sorry Bruce, the game has passed you by !!!!!!!!!!

    The best news of the day was the play of Gabbert. Receivers need to do a better job catching the ball !!!!!

  15. By CARDS62 on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    Well you guys pretty much made all the points I wanted to make about the game on the inactive player post so will just hit you with a few quick points.

    1) New name for our receiving corps. Larry and the Losers
    2) Who knew our best TE was our 3rd stringer. We should keep him with Larry and get rid of the rest of our WRs and TEs
    3) We have to upgrade both of our lines next year.
    4) Many reasons we lost this game WR, Oline, defense especially 3rd down, penalties, but agree biggest reason was not only going for it on 4th down but the play call that everyone in the building is expecting. If you are going to go at that time you better have a great play call up your sleeve or at least try a QB sneak.
    5)Gabbert played well especially when you consider we had no running game and receivers keep letting all of our QBs down.
    6) If Gabbert plays against the Jags I just worry he might press too much against the team that drafted him in the first round.
    7) Jags best unit by far is their defense so you can not let their defense beat you. Play smart and punt the ball. Jags QB Bortles is not good, a better runner than a passer, and has no WRs because of injuries so we have to play man and load the box to stop the run, rookie from LSU is a Stud, but we run blitz early and often and we can win the game. If their WRs beat our CBs I can live with that. Our DC has to play this way and provide our CBs with some help on obvious passing downs.

    I just hope to see some coaching next game and some good tackling from our Cardinals and maybe we get a 12-9 victory like the Giants over the Chiefs.

    Do any of you believe how poorly our WRs have played in 2016 and 2017?

  16. By CARDS62 on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    Would love to see an interview this week with Michael Bidwill on his thoughts about our Cardinals and how he thinks we are performing and how the rest of the season will end up with not only wins and losses but how the units will perform.

    I tell you my fellow fans right now. No matter what our record is this year we are actually worse because our schedule this year is very favorable. Good news is we have extra draft choices next year and if we release who we should release we will have plenty of funds for free agents.

    I think one of the shows said today that each of the 4 division leaders in the NFC are all new this season as compared to last season so there is hope. Much work to be done, but we can turn this around quickly if we have the right decision makers in place.

    Go Cards!

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  18. By CardsNation on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    I don’t disagree to go for it on 4th, but honestly, everyone knows you’re gonna run it. At least pass the ball, that’s a horrible play calling. BA needs to be creative with the run, so it’s less predictable. On the other hand, I had a lot of faith in Gabbert, he met the expectation but then threw two picks. And receivers, don’t drop passes, we missed so many opportunities. I don’t know what happened in 2015 that we managed to win 13 games, but it’s not gonna happen again if we keep playing like this.

  19. By Tradersbrain on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    I’m of the thinking that major changes are on the way. Two consecutive years of sub-par play, coaching and effort. We continually hear from BA that he likes the effort given by the players, yet, effort hasn’t translated into wins. Our fan base has grown to expect actual wins not moral victories. Unfortunately, a third game with the 49ers is not on the schedule, so I really don’t hold out much hope for another win this season. We are now officially a bottom tiered team. Awful.

  20. By JQ on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    This Defense cost us this game as the Texans had long fields all day and basically drove it down our throats. Bethcher needs to go I have had enough of his horrible play calling. I love B.A and I am glad he’s starting to not let loyalty get the best of him anymore as they will be bringing in receivers this week who can actually catch a dam ball. JJ Nelson and J Brown are 4th or 5th wide receivers at best. On a positive note I love me some Budda Baker man he’s a real competitor and Blaine Gabbert will only get better which is also exciting. Nice to see our young guys make plays just wish we could rewind this season and do it again injury free. We have some great pieces in place just need better play calling from the defense like we are use to. Go Cards!!

  21. By Dan on Nov 19, 2017 | Reply

    Loved Budda Baker even tho he blew the long touchdown run, gone blown out of gap and took our guys out of the play……….been done with John Smoke and Mirrors Brown……he flat out sucks……..thought JJ Nelson was gonna be decent but he sucks too………Jaron Brown is average, maybe slightly above average. Defense is lacking a pass rush, thats why we suck on 3rd down. Running game blows burros as usual……offensive line couldn’t blow a hole thru their own balloon knot if they tried. Arians is still on vacation…….pretty soon a permanent one. Looks like these OLD dudes time has passed them by, so much for knowledge.

  22. By mitchaz on Nov 20, 2017 | Reply

    HOU 31 AZ 21 Analysis

    BA must be at his wit’s end. He and his staff just can’t seem to get this team over the hump, as it continues to make the same kind of self-destructive mistakes, week after week. What’s of highest concern, is the lack of urgency, discipline and positive energy this team displays. The FOX crew said that BA billed this game as a “playoff game” and yet, to be frank, save from the auspicious debuts of QB Blaine Gabbert, TE Ricky Seals-Jones and S Budda Baker and the continued excellence of WR Larry Fitzgerald, the overall team effort was strikingly listless, especially for a team that had 10 days to prepare for the game.

    As for the critical 4th and inches call from their own 36 yard line, down 24-21 and over 6 minutes on the clock, BA’s decision may have had as much to do with his growing frustration with the team’s defense—that and having watched J.J. Nelson drop a wide open, perfectly thrown out pass two plays earlier, and then watching Blaine Gabbert once again throw short of the sticks on 3rd down, this time to John Brown who had no wiggle room after the catch to gain the extra yard.

    BA took the loss squarely join his shoulders after the game—which could be a sign that he is starting to take more responsibility for his team’s shortcomings. The Arizona reporters after the game were more assertive in their questions of BA this week, which is a sign that they too are concerned with the direction of the football team and the manner in which it is being coached. Kent Somers asked BA why BA thought he could gain a yard in the running game when the Texans were in the backfield all day pummeling the unprotected RB Adrian Peterson. BA said he rued the call…that he should have called a different play…or that he should have punted.

    So, why is this team looking so out of sorts and poorly motivated? It looks, at least to me, that the players have stopped listening to the coaches. Week after week, the team comes out as flat as pancake after half-time—almost as if they don’t care. This looks like a team that has been yelled at and chewed out too much. When that happens too often, there comes a point where the players just drown the coaches out.

    Case in point—last year Michael Floyd suddenly had a habitual case of the drops. Now this year, more than ever, John Brown and J.J. Nelson have the same problem—to the point where BA said he will be looking at new WRs this week. Is it just pure coincidence that all three of these players, the longer they have gone in BA’s system have regressed to the point of being benched or released?

    On the defensive side of the ball, tackling remains the team’s biggest issue—something that BA vowed would be emphasized this year from day one. What does it say about the players on the defense that rookie Budda Baker was just about the only player on the unit yesterday who was flat-out balling? How can Patrick Peterson and Tyrann Mathieu sit there today and watch themselves go so half-heartedly after tackles? On a simple WR screen pass, with the Cardinals sitting in zone and Patrick Peterson having the flat, Peterson never even got a finger on the WR, as he did everything defenders are taught not to do. He didn’t break down. He ran wildly out of bounds which the WR easily side-stepped and turned into an 8 yard gain. On a number of occasions yesterday, Tyrann Mathieu was in perfect position to step up and make tackles that he used to make in his sleep, but he hesitated on several key occasions and got caught in no man’s land. The question is—why does BA and James Bettcher and the staff put up with this?

    What we learned yesterday is that some of the talent that BA and his staff has been sitting on is better than the players the coaches have been going with all along. QB Blaine Gabbert is a significant upgrade over Drew Stanton. Gabbert has the stronger, more accurate arm and is more mobile. (BTW—BA said yesterday before the game that when Stanton is healthy, Stanton is the starter). While S Tyvon Branch was having a very good season, he never impacted a game this year the way Budda Baker did yesterday (13 tackles, 1 sack, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery). Why has this brilliant young talent been sitting all year? Especially for a defense that DOES NOT TACKLE? TE Ricky Seals-Jones put on the best TE TD reception performance of the season? On an offense that has been begging for a TE to emerge as a bona fide red zone threat.

    If you look back a couple of years the same thing happened with RB David Johnson. Sure, RB Chris Johnson was leading the NFL in rushing at the time, but he was slowing down considerably before he got hurt and David Johnson was just an after-thought. Once David Johnson was inserted…what did we see?

    BTW—Chris Johnson was tweeting yesterday once again about the Cardinals trying to run the same old dive plays into a wall over and over—which even FOX’s Ronde Barber said he noticed ad nauseous in his film prep of the Cardinals’ offense.

    I am going to take a moment and speculate that C Evan Boehm is an upgrade over A.Q. Shipley. That WR Chad Williams (BA said he’d be ready by Thanksgiving, well now it’s Thanksgiving) is an upgrade of any of the J’s (as Ronde Barber called them). That Haason Reddick is an upgrade over Kareem Martin. That Rudy Ford is an upgrade in pass coverage over Tyrann Mathieu. That D.J. Foster is an upgrade over Kerwynn Williams and Andre Ellington.

    The Arizona reporters after the game were pressing Larry Fitzgerald about whether it was his intent to return next year—which is odd considering he just agreed to an $11M+ contract for 2018. Fitz said all he’s thinking about right now is going against one of the top defenses in the NFL in the Jaguars’.

    Could the so-called re-signing of Larry Fitzgerald to a 2018 contract be just a ploy to get season ticket holders to renew? How can Larry Fitzgerald even fathom another year of this kind of futility?

    The Arizona Cardinals are a sinking ship right now. The rest of the teams in the NFC West have their QBOFs in place. The Seahawks and Rams have stronger, more athletic and aggressive defenses. The 49ers are amassing some very good young talent on defense, particularly up front. And all three teams have significantly better special teams than the Cardinals’.

    More of the same from the Cardinals could set their progress back another couple of years.

  23. By mitchaz on Nov 20, 2017 | Reply

    Will Michael Bidwill make a coaching change this off-season? Will Bidwill give the fans something to make them eager to fill the stadium for years to come?

    One name to keep a close eye on—is Pat Shurmer, the Vikings’ offensive coordinator who is rolling 7s and 11s in Minnesota with Case Keenam at QB, as evidenced by their 24-7 win over the Rams yesterday. Keenam is a 2018 free agent and could join Shurmer in Arizona while Shurmer develops the Cardinals’ first round selection as QBOF, be it Lamar Jackson, Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield or Josh Allen.

    The other name to keep an eye on is the Texans’ defensive coordinator, Mike Vrabel. Hiring Vrabel as the new head coach could accomplish what the Steelers did by hiring a young Mike Tomlin to succeed Bill Cowher. Vrabel, a Bill Belichick disciple of sorts, has all the makings of an outstanding head coach.

    A pipe dream could be to lure Dabo Swinney of Clemson to Arizona. if Clemson wins another NCAA Championship this year—Swinney might be tempted to take his and some of his staff’s talents to the NFL. Michael Bidwill and Steve Keim have become very friendly and familiar with Swinney over the past couple of years as Swinney has invited them to his Fiesta Bowl practices. Swinney would not come cheap, however. He currently earns $8.5M a year at Clemson and has a $40M buyout, which would have to be negotiated, if at all possible.

    Bidwill and Keim should have listened to Swinney about moving up to take QB Deshaun Watson. But, can you imagine the excitement in Arizona if Swinney is named head coach and the Cardinals trade up to draft QB Lamar Jackson?

  24. By Scott H on Nov 20, 2017 | Reply

    Chad Williams….yeah, another draft pick spending the season on the in-active list. Are we seeing a REAL disturbing trend here?? In reality as we know it, for many other teams in the NFL, the draft picks actually PLAY and they have an impact. Here? Not nearly often enough.

    So….maybe now that our other WR’s are not getting the job done, we may get a look at Chad Williams.

  25. By Scott H on Nov 20, 2017 | Reply

    On another topic….watching the Sunday Night game last night ( OK, that was redundant ), I see this Darby kid that the Eagles traded for making plays ALL OVER THE FIELD for them at CB. Really? That trade with Buffalo was made on Aug 11. Hmmmm….wasn’t that about the same time it seemed like a damn good idea for the Cardinals to secure another option at CB? In case Bethel didn’t really work out? As several of us were questioning in NO un-certain terms?

    OK. So, what did we see? The Eagles reached out and made a trade for a legit option to up-grade at the CB position. Might that be an AGGRESSIVE approach? Yup. Damn right. And the Cardinals continued to do nothing, then picked 38-year old Tramon Williams off the scrap heap.

    Oh, and WHERE is Brandon Williams these days??? Is he on the in-active list, too? Or has it just seemed like it?

    Are ya listening, front office? Might this disparity in ways of doing things tell us something about why one team is 9-1 and steam-rolling their way to top seed in the NFC while the other is 4-6 and talking about the need to look at other players for next week?

  26. By Phx Raiders on Nov 20, 2017 | Reply

    I liked th call to go for it N 4th down.

    But not what twe said. It said “our defense isn’t as good as you think”

  27. By Phx Raiders on Nov 20, 2017 | Reply

    With a agile qb: keeper, bootleg, etc might have been the better call. Given that the last 12 rushing attempts gained 1/yd carry.

    This play in itself did not lose the game. But it would have given us a chance to tie on the road.

    Not many deep shots by Gabert earlier. These might have softened the d and aided the rush.

    Both CB’s played well. TW def proved above agerage and at 1/10th of the salary.

    We really miss Golden on D

    Receivers getting too much criticism here, imo. Yes, many drops these past two weeks. But different qb and throwing style causes some miscalculation. Keep the speed on the field , at very least as a decoy.

    OL needs help. Has needed help for 2 years. I bet BA wishes he had a FB now. Wolf?

    Coach bettcher: too much zone coverage , or not enough blitzing. Savage looked like Big Ben out there.

    In spite of the record. One has to remember the catastrophic Injuries this year. Best LB, multiple OL. Best DT, strategy no QB, top RB in the league, preseason top KR, utility lb/ safety/ whatever they call honey and buch …fresh of injuries. Badgers are likely career enders. Staff gets a hall pass for now due to these personnel shortages, imo.

    John Lott was fired in 2014. Since that time, we run out of gas Sooners and significantly more injuries. According to the AZ Central at the time, BA did not believe in group stretching pre practice. David Johnsons injury report and CP ‘S injury had nothing to do with stretching. But I wonder what the numbers actually show, if anything, injuries pre Lott vs. post Lott.

    The year is not over, but need to win out. Go cards

  28. By Coach K on Nov 20, 2017 | Reply

    Gabbert is clearly better than Stanton. Has all the tools and youth on his side.

    Next year, keep Gabbert and draft a young QB.

    Draft impact receiver

    Draft defensive line that dominates any offensive line.

  29. By John S. on Nov 20, 2017 | Reply

    Continue to be impressed with Budda Baker each week; he is everywhere the ball is..!
    Would like to see Seals-Jones again, give him more playing time and see what happens; might surprise everybody?.
    Had no problem with BA going for it on 4th down there, but big problem for me is the lack of imagination… sooo, sooo predictable in the play calling; and fools nobody. What’s that old saying about trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? It just doesn’t work that way, never has…
    Somewhat amazed how many think Gabbert the magical answer here. Nothing against him per se, but If Stanton is healthy he should start and end the drama. Playing musical chairs with QB’s isn’t a good idea; only feeds the media.
    In receivers… well, they do need to catch the ball, and pretty consistently as well. Often felt the “speed factor” alone can be over-rated at times, and that BA/Kiem(?) have given that factor a little too much “weight” in who stays or goes, draft pics, etc…. just sayin’… it’s nice, but not everything.

  30. By Gary B. on Nov 20, 2017 | Reply

    The cardinals would and should be 7 and 3 other than Fitz our receivers just drop too damn many passes. Its ridiculous..

  31. By Lee on Nov 20, 2017 | Reply

    Eric G, I can relate to your frustrations with the play and coaching because I tend to feel the same but come on. Getting rid of BA? Look at his record with the Cards. I hated alot of his calls even when we were winning but whatever if it works. Also look at the major injuries the Cardinals have had the last two years. And yes it is and excuse for losing.
    I’m 50 and I have seen a lot of losing in the past. I’ve been a fan since the mid-seventies and stayed a fan even when they moved away from St Louis which is close to my home town. Nothing annoys me more than FAIR WEATHERED FANS THAT LIKE TO VOICE AN OPINION. Adios and don’t let the door hit you on your way out.
    Nobody is more pissed than I am right now with coaching decisions and play calling but to lose loyalty? No way in my book.

  32. By Dan Nicholson on Nov 21, 2017 | Reply

    Georgiebird, Re: Chandler Jones. Don’t think he is a one-trick pony.If you watched really close, the Texans got away with a lot of holds , not only on him but others too. We all know they can call holds every play, but they didn’t call one all game on guys holding him and he pointed it out to refs. Plus he was getting doubled & some 3 guys at times. Those refs were horrible all game. See calls on Fitz, AP, no calls on Hopkins shoving PP 3 times to ground and no flag. Refs knew they were playing physical, but shove other guy to ground and no call? Cards really miss Marcus Golden…….

  33. By Dan Nicholson on Nov 21, 2017 | Reply

    Darren: I do not understand why early in game Texans had ball on 1- yard line and got a false start penalty,which means half distance to goal line, but why didn’t they have to make it to 16 yard line for 1st down instead of 11 yard line since it’s a 5 yard penalty? And if they had gotten a 2nd false start penalty is that a safety since it’s impossible to move any further back?Thanks for any info on this.

  34. By Darren Urban on Nov 21, 2017 | Reply

    Dan N —

    RE: Penalty

    The distance to gain doesn’t change. So if you start at 1st-n-10 and only move back 6 inches or a yard, that’s all the extra you have to gain. That’s always been the case. And you can commit all the penalties you wan down there, you can only go so far back. No safeties — unless you hold in the end zone during a play. Then it would be a safety.

  35. By Dan Nicholson on Nov 21, 2017 | Reply

    Got it now. Thanks for the clarification Darren

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