Bidwill to take part in NFL social justice meeting

Posted by Darren Urban on December 13, 2017 – 4:59 pm

For much of the season, the NFL and its players have been trying to work towards support to players’ concerns about social issues and create a social justice partnership/initiative. Recently, the league agreed to donate $90 million while teaming with players toward those goals. With owners meetings currently underway, ESPN’s Jim Trotter reported the tentative working groups for the initial social justice meeting between the league and the players will have a decidedly Cardinals flavor.

Among the players and former players expected to take part are three ex-Cardinals: Anquan Boldin (who, along with Eagles defensive back Malcolm Jenkins, has been at the forefront of this work from the players’ side), Josh McCown and Aeneas Williams (who was tapped by the city of Ferguson to help heal that area after the unrest there in 2014.)

On the owners’ side, one of the representatives is Cardinals president Michael Bidwill. This too is not a surprise. Current Cardinals have been pleased with how engaged Bidwill has been with them this season on this subject. It is obviously a hot-button topic this year with the NFL and many fans, and working toward results — rather than rhetoric — is important.

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  1. By D on Dec 13, 2017 | Reply

    A Phony movement. There hasn’t been one study showing systemic police brutality in this country. I am tired of this anti police and anti America theme that has all of a sudden became a cool thing because a knucklehead millionaire ex QB in SF couldn’t find a job once he insisted on opting out of his contract. He wore police pig socks in training camp. Kneeling during the National Anthem is Anti American and disrespectful to all those who protect our freedom. Are there bad police, yes, just like there are bad politicians, bad teachers and football players, but this country is still the most tolerant of any place in the world. Overall, our police and our military are remarkable people. We don’t live in an oppressive police state society, that would be Russia, N. Korea, and most of Africa.
    This so called “social justice “ movement is the reason of the decline of interest by the fans in the NFL, but they just don’t realize it yet.

  2. By Fmr USAF Pilot on Dec 13, 2017 | Reply

    Is domestic violence a “Social Justice” issue e.g. dragging one’s wife by the hair or battering a girl friend?

  3. By Dr. G. on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    Social Justice? Just what does this mean? How does it affect you or me? Anyone bold enough to open the can of worms to define this political term we have been forewarned about?

    Will the future of this bleak PC concept continue to provide hateful ammunition for dividing various groups of people? Aren’t we all pink inside? Safe spaces?

    Immoral political//military factions throughout history have employed various tactics of hate to create class division among society in order to control and distort our reason. Is it done under the guise of “”we care about you” – ((social justice?)) .Recent history of Germany is a sickening example.

    EVERY country and race throughout millennia has been victimized by murders, servitude, bondage, rape, mutilation, among many things to create obedience. No race has escaped.

    Even in this Greatest Country on Earth, greedy politicians and so-called activists continue to dupe the naive innocents by gender, race, age, wealthy, poor, religion, education, etc. simply to “control” rational thinking. That’s how they count you and get your vote.

    You deserve this. We deserve that. Free stuff? What about accountability?

    Speaking of classes, the “”ruling class”” is supposed to speak and act for the people. I plead for the reading of our Declaration, of Independence…there you will see a long list of abuses that our ancestors fought to the death to deny. No other country has the privileges and freedoms that exist here…none…ever.

    If any should venture to open the “”can,”” please avoid the manipulative media talking points…doing some homework can open us up to clearer understanding that can get us to a point of appreciation of differences and not use them to be devicive.

    Karl Marx theory of sharing wealth without accountability proved deadly problematic.

    Now, Mr. Bidwill, please just listen and then try to educate yourself and others as you look to share and appreciate differences. Do not assume anything. Is money the real and only solution to dousing the flames of this complicated issue. God speed…

  4. By Dr. G. on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    Incidentally ~ ~ Wouldn’t it be just swell if we could keep the narrative here all about the challenges of football? Though it’s happening, it should not be the venue for politics…it pollutes the league with distractions.

  5. By mitchaz on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    Michael Bidwill is a first-class person and team owner. He relishes the human aspects of his job and the relationships he forges with everyone in the organization. He’s the first to help a player in need. And he is not afraid to give tough love when required, as he did when Michael Floyd did not show the kind of regret and remorse for his actions a year ago.

    That said, Michael Bidwill is facing one of the most difficult decisions he will have to make as the leader of the Cardinals. The Cardinals under Bruce Arians and his staff peaked in 2015 and now the rest of the NFC West is on the rise, while the Cardinals are fading.

    Can the Cardinals afford more of the same for another year? Or is it time to turn the program over to a new head coach and a reloading which includes signing or drafting the QBOF? It would make little sense to draft a QBOF without knowing who the next head coach is going to be. The new head coach should have a say in what QB to build the team around—and—what style of play the team wishes to employ.

    Bidwill cannot feel good about all the empty seats at U of P last Sunday. The upper decks were barely half full. There is a risk that the U of P will become as much or more of an attraction to fans of the visiting teams, as was experienced during the old say at SDS.

    Ironically, the Cardinals have become what the Rams were under Jeff Fisher—a very average, inconsistent, oft-injured and under-performing group, whose ceiling is the .500 mark. Look at what a fresh change in coaching has done for the Rams and in developing QB Jared Goff. Plus, 49ers fans must be ecstatic that with Kyle Shanahan as HC and now with Jimmy Garoppolo starting at QB their young team is 2-0. In Seattle, they have a perennial MVP candidate at QB in Russell Wilson, who has already won a Super Bowl ring.

    With 10 picks in the 2018 NFL Draft, the Cardinals are primed and ready to make their move. The key question is—will the Cardinals’ reloading be aligned with a fresh new coaching staff or in accordance with the current regime?

    If you were Michael Bidwill, what would you do?

  6. By JTDG on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply


    Maybe they should be getting together to address Larry Johnson’s claims of CTE.

    He played his last game in 2011, and he now believes he suffers from chronic traumatic encephalopathy, the degenerative brain disorder linked to more than 100 former football players. For now, CTE can be confirmed only after death, but Johnson says his symptoms — anxiety, paranoia, the occasional self-destructive impulse — are consistent with those of past victims.

    He isn’t the only one and players are saying they will not let their children play.

    Oh wait, that would affect the Billions of dollars everyone makes.

    Then maybe they should talk about Nike.

    You know how they use slave labor to make those jerseys and shoes the NFL wears. From abused workers making .35 cents am hour, to children working, Nike has been one of the leaders in abuses.
    Oh Nike says it has been taken care of, but in Vietnam in 2016, Nike’s own investigators found some of the worse abuses.

    Now in 2017, Now workers making Nike’s Converse shoes at a factory in Indonesia say they are being physically and mentally abused.

    The 10,000 mostly female workers at the Taiwanese-operated Pou Chen plant make around 50 cents an hour.

    Nike’s CEO has admitted such abuses and even has said we blew it, but has not stopped the low wages and abuses to their major factories in China, Indonesia, and Vietnam.

    Oh, wait, Nike gave the NFL and it’s players 220 million last year. While Michael Jordon and Tiger Woods received contracts from Nike for over 100 million each, the people making their shoes make 50 cents an hour and are abused. Now that is social injustices.

    While Kaepernick enjoys the fact his jersey is selling and the money it brings him, he never thinks of the social injustices it brings those workers that make his things.

    Hypocrites. Hypocrites Hypocrites. Why won’t the players refuse to wear Nike??

    If it brings you money, you could care less if players brains are scrambled or slave laborers are making you rich. They are like magicians , look at this hand, where we pretend we are standing for social injustices, while the other hand is doing far greater injustices.

  7. By patrick on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    Is social injustice calling a female officer a b—-, like Malik McDowell of the Seahawks. Then bragging about how much money he’s made in the last two months.

  8. By dobie on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    this is for Mr. D you must be white and you probably never see injustice cause you will never be stop for just being white get rousted or be man handle yes police do a great job but there is still some injustice out there and yes being white has it privileges and this kind of talk does not belong here

  9. By Lifetime Fan on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    Mitchaz, here is my answer for you. Management should approach Arians and tell him to fire Amos Jones to send a message of accountability for complete incompetence. If Arians says no, he is putting his buddy in front of the entire organization and fan base and he should be let go or else the cardinals will just stagnate. If he says yes than you know he has at least a bit of awareness and can maybe make the cards better next year.

    By the way, not to miss my chance at an Amos Jone rant this week: did you guys hear the commentary from Jay Feeley during the cards game about Phil Dawson? He said basically Phil is a great kicker who has been great everywhere, but he told Jay that the field goal blocking scheme gives up such consistent edge pressure that he isn’t comfortable following through on kicks anymore. I read into that Amos’ incompetence broke Dawson. Lol.

  10. By Adam Smith b1723 fka DTL on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    “Social justice” Mike B in middle to see it doesn’t go too far off rails. Enuff of that.

    More interested in:

    1. Swearinger comments, Cards practice less than professional, or words to that effect? He was really solid, effective and TOUGH player. They wouldn’t resign, no effort to sign. No explanation given, but had to be him knocking heads with coaches. NOTABLE: BA seemingly agreed to an extent, said practice last year was too soft. Bertrand Berry has had that theme for couple years on B Train show.

    2. Just as LT and CB neglected by Keim, Special Teams neglected by Coaches/BA. Interestingly, comments by Jay Feely with comments by our Kicker that our blocking weak on edge and he often couldn’t follow thru on kicks, that apparently Amos would not change blocking scheme. Did Dawson fall off or is his blocking failing him?

    3. Keim BA talked 2 years ago, last year about emphasis on Sp Teams, yet no improvement (or not enough).

    Captain Obvious: a championship team has top caliber performance from all 3 phases, we dont and havent. When injuries weaken one phase the other 2 should pick you up. Ours cant, haven’t. Need more balanced emphasis on all 3 phases by head coach.

    Not all negative here, but Cards must face, address weaknesses to get to promised land… we’re much better overall than in past, but not close to SB caliber on sustained level.

  11. By Dr. G. on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    Darren – – A little delay in thanking you for the Boomer article you wrote some years back. There are a couple details like him getting hosed from a significant bonus for 7 measly yards…that your reminded just to save some cash…

    Still, that 522 yd stat will be there probably forever… be well…

  12. By Dr. G. on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    Doobie – – Well, even suggesting that playing the race card in recent years is succumbing to manipulative activists and media, you chose to go straight to their talking points. We can point to innumerable statistics that prove them wrong most of the time.

    The activist of recent decades seemingly use race baiting as a means to become wealthy…most of them are rich. They have accomplished little except to intentionally stir the aggravation so it will continue. I will not give them credit by naming them.

    MLK had a very different picture of the future of America – must be turning over in his grave to see what has happened…politicians and activists using people as pawns for their agenda.

    Driving while black? With the development of cop’s body cameras being employed more and more, the talking points have begun to subside. I have to cringe when made aware of black on black killings in big cities like Chicago…it very sad.

    Some of your idols of color could be – Ben Carson, J.C. Watts, Condi Rice, Herman Cain, Alan Keyes, Larry Elder, David Webb, Larry Fitzgerald, Aeneas Williams (best), on & on. Uncle Tom is a label used to disrespect people who think for themselves. These are the type people who look to a color-blind society regarding (Behavior).

    Don’t assume you can know what color any poster is unless they tell you…including me. Have a nice day.

    P.S. Football!!!

  13. By Darren Urban on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    Dr. G —

    RE: discussion

    I didn’t see where Dobie was wrong. You have a different opinion. But I’m curious if he told you who your idols should be, if you would be OK with that.

  14. By Dr. G. on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    Darren – – Idols – – there is no “demand” in my post. It says “could be”… I see Dobie’s post inasmuch as he or she believes their content is 100% accurate: it comes across as indicating to the previous poster (D) that he or she is wrong or uninformed.

    There is always such a degree of sensitivity with this subject that people fear the exchange…and therefore, nothing will ever come to sensible solutions… I merely promote education and factual information to have a healthy dialogue… The list of suggested persons is a round-a-bout way of saying, “”Don’t listen to manipulative idiots.” And learn how to identify them…Thank you…

  15. By Adam Smith b1723 fka DTL on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    Dr G: you’re fighting city hall thinking you can challenge #Leftist propaganda on this blog. Better off following own advice and sticking to Xs and Os…

  16. By Darren Urban on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    DTL —

    RE: Xs and Os

    What makes what one person says propaganda and not what another person says?

  17. By Adam Smith b1723 fka DTL on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    2018 Roster:

    Looking at Active, Reserve?Injured, Practice squad looks like 77 or 78 guys. 9-10 2018 draft picks?

    Anybody got any early draft of the 53 + 8 for next year? Frostee back? Dansby? Iupati? Bethel? Brandon Williams? Watford? Palmer? Fitz? Veldheer?

  18. By Adam Smith b1723 fka DTL on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    Among a few others, Sowell took the baton from Adam Smith LLD,
    author of “An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations” with interesting analysis of the social justice and economics of slave labor on plantations. Finished it in an interesting year, 1776, after writing for 9 years.

  19. By creditcard on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    Social justice is for Washington to change their name to the Red-hawks, or they could change their name to Pale-faces.

  20. By Adam Smith b1723 fka DTL on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    Sure good question, happy to answer:

    Propaganda is information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view…. like “social justice”, like pushing notion that Pat Tillman would have knelt for our national anthem in disrespect of the US flag and in derogation of the oath he took, copy of which was posted in earlier post, that sort of thing…

  21. By Darren Urban on Dec 15, 2017 | Reply

    DTL —

    RE: Definition

    That’s the definition, sure. But under your definition — people can argue the misleading part — isn’t, for instance, your view propaganda? You are using it to promote a particular political cause or point of view.

  22. By Johnson on Dec 14, 2017 | Reply

    I am glad this movement is on the forefront. This country has been too much social injustice happening for years and people who deny it are simply stupid and you cannot repair Stupid.

    Someone just said this is Phony movement and and there is absolutely not an iota of injustice that happens in this country….How dumb can you get by saying that???….And kneeling to the Anthem isnt unpatriotic, its what makes us Americans because of our freedom to voice our concerns! …People who think otherwise are utterly stupid and naive, they are the problem who needed to be weeded out.

    NFL needs to be on the forefront of this! The players need to be and make examples of Unity. Kapernick has gotten a lot of flack but he is still showed if you hang by your true beliefs, you can make a difference or rattle a few stupid people who think standing in front of the flag makes them patriotic, these people wouldn’t know the first meaning of patriotism.

    Any attendance that has dwindled at Cards games not because of the Kneeling – its because Cardinals have been garbage rubbish for the past 2 years! and people who think clearly dont have the time to waste money on rubbish. But, respect to Bidwills! Thank you taking the steps who invest time in this/ – now hopefully we can invest some time to not be garbage next year!

  23. By Scott H on Dec 15, 2017 | Reply

    Regarding the pic…..are they locking arms during the anthem or is Michael just trying to make sure these two players don’t go anywhere?

  24. By Fmr USAF Pilot on Dec 15, 2017 | Reply

    Johnson, Dobie, Credit Card (and others on this board who believe that it’s OK to kneel when the National Anthem is being played and that the U.S. is rife with Social INjudtice):

    Very few people would disagree that there is some Social Injustice in the U.S..

    HOWEVER, there are plenty of other venues and opportunities to educate the population about grievances e.g. why don’t black representatives from each NFL, NBA, MLB and other professional sports teams hold press conferences and establish and explain meaningful programs to address it?

    Or, a black player from each NFL team could be a vocal spokesperson in each city in which the NFL has a team and establish programs in that city to improve the lives and social well-being of the black citizens .

    Or, black players in each NFL city could establish a Working Group with the Law Enforcement community to improve relations and Social INjustice situations..


  25. By Dr. G. on Dec 15, 2017 | Reply

    johnson ~ ~ Would you care to explain how you would define patriotism to those stupid people you mention? Does patriotism even exist? I’m listening…

  26. By clssylssy on Dec 17, 2017 | Reply

    RE: The picture
    Actually, they look to me like they are about to do their best rockette high kick imitation, but you are probably right!

    Creditcard: I totally agree that Washington needs to change their name to something that is more fitting and representative of Washing,ton, like “Washington Charlatons”

    Dr. G. & others:
    This is NOT just a Black issue, but social injustice is pervasive throughout this country and includes any marginalized group of people such as poor whites, Native Americans,Hispanics, Asians, Women, Transgender individuals, etc. Many of these people have/are serving this country, have spilled blood to protect your right to spew your self-rightous, bigoted and racist views. Our country is in serious trouble and I am proud that the NFL is attempting to do something positive. If you would spend as much time looking into the good that players are doing, not only in their communities but also around the world you might get a clue as to what is really going on.
    I for one, want to thank the players, the NFL, Mr. Bidwill for their hard work and efforts to make this a better and more unified country while so many others sit on the sidelines and do nothing positive.

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