Draft day two, and Deuce Lutui’s impact

Posted by Darren Urban on April 27, 2018 – 8:54 pm

The long day ended with a pick of an offensive lineman and, more entertainingly, an ex-offensive lineman dancing his way to the announcement.

“I don’t know if I’m more excited about (our) last two selections or Deuce Lutui’s announcement of our pick,” GM Steve Keim said after the Cardinals took OL Mason Cole following the pick of WR Christian Kirk earlier in the day.

The Cardinals have three picks left, one each in the fourth, sixth and seventh rounds, none of which are the Cardinals’ original 2018 picks. The fourth- and seventh-rounders are compensatory picks, the sixth-rounder the selection given by the Broncos in the Jared Veldheer trade. What might be the Cardinals looking for? Well, they could still take another offensive lineman, maybe a defensive lineman, and definitely a cornerback. Although both Keim and Steve Wilks insisted they won’t push anything.

Thus far, “we didn’t veer because of grades or because of positional need,” Keim said. “We stuck to value and we stuck to the person.”

— With the last day of the draft, “we’re going to have some players who have some holes,” Keim added. “We have to find certain traits we can hang our hat on.”

— When it comes to cornerback — the most glaring need the Cardinals have — do not forget that Wilks, a former defensive backs coach, frequently used and used successfully cornerbacks with perhaps not the highest draft pedigree. He can make different pieces work (Josh Norman, don’t forget, was a fifth-rounder.)

— Keim was asked about the first three picks thus far, which includes a QB, a receiver and offensive lineman. “Other than Coach kept staring at me talking about defensive players, it was good,” Keim deadpanned.

But he said Wilks has been “unbelievable” in understanding how defense hasn’t gotten a pick, and Wilks said he’s always been able to see the big picture in team building. Then he reiterated the need to build both the offensive and defensive lines, so again, a pick there wouldn’t be a surprise.

— As for that trade for Josh Rosen and the surrendered third-round pick, 79th overall?

“We got to the 79th pick and Coach and I looked at each other and we saw the players who were left on the board and I said, ‘I’m glad we have a potential franchise quarterback versus what was left,’ ” Keim said. “Not to take anything away with what was left on the board, but I would certainly do that again over and over.”

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22 Responses to “Draft day two, and Deuce Lutui’s impact”

  1. By Coach K on Apr 27, 2018 | Reply

    Steve Keim has put together his most impressive draft so far. If he has the same success on Saturday, it will put the Cardinals back in contention for the conference.

    I love this game from last year with Rosen.

  2. By Big Ken on Apr 27, 2018 | Reply

    Deuce Lutui? You know I didn’t have anything go’in on tonight. I could have been there for a lot less $$$. Lol Great picks so far. I know they looked at Cole Mason early on. E-W Shrine or the Senior Bowl, he must have impressed! I would have picked the best corner available instead.

  3. By DZ on Apr 27, 2018 | Reply

    I am hopeful that we made the right choices. Certainly not what I was hoping for but then again it’s all a crap shoot on day one. Day 2-3 could have been a windfall with 6 picks.
    I would rather have kept the picks and added more pressing needs, like O Line D Line or DB’s . Get Mason Rudolph in rd2. He will be the star of this QB class. Fill multiple holes and create depth with the final 6 picks. I do not agree that there are slim pickens as Kiem has stated above here on out.
    But, I know that he needs to keep his job and not taking one of the four QB’s is sticking his neck out a bit far.
    It just seems very familiar to me. Remember when we signed a QB off the trash heep when everyone else gave up on him and then we took a can’t miss QB at number 7 on darft day.. yeah, kinda like that.

  4. By Dr. G. on Apr 27, 2018 | Reply

    Darren – FWIW – Kudos to you for the work you have done the past couple days giving all the Fan a venue to share their random thoughts. Right or wrong, some love the speculation that is created by the FA and the Draft.

    Your eyes must be blurred out by now with all the work you have done recently!

    Well done from all the Fans to you…appreciated!

  5. By faster on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    darren, sorry to correct you, but jonathan cooper missed three starts with an ankle injury as a redshirt freshman.

    as for the picks, happy about mason cole, he should immediately add deepth at the oline, and could be a starter next year.
    christian kirk, i don`t know, he could replace pp as a good punt returner, but for a wr its a change from the browns speed.

  6. By RagingREDBird on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    In six Keim drafts this is the most excited I have ever seen the Birdgang. Really fun to watch!!! This draft is such an old school smart draft. Three year starter at QB, four year starter at a major school at O-line and and a super productive three year starter at WR. WOW! Fan base loves the QB pick that hopefully fills the long term future at the most important position and local kid who wants to come and play for his hometown team. What is to not love about this draft!!!

    Reading about Kirk sounds like a young 4 inches shorter Fitz.

  7. By JTDG on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    The cards enter rounds 4-7 today;

    Here are some players to consider.

    1. Holton Hill – CB – First round talent with serious off the field issues that need to be vetted. If he pans out, he is the steal of the draft.

    2. D’Montre Wade – Small college guy who fits that “Josh Norman” mode.

    3. Foley Fatukasi – Big, solid DT who can play as the 1 or 3 in a 4-3 or 5 in a 3-4.

    4. Tyrell Crosby – G / T – Big Physical tackle who may need to move inside. Could be a perfect guy to play behind either Andre Smith at RT or Iupati at guard.

    5. Armani Watts – Safety. Could be a nice back up to Bethea and take over next year.

    6. John Kelly – We dont need a RB but this kid would be a solid back up to DJ

    7. Ian Thomas – A solid TE pushed down in the draft due to so much talent at TE this year. He can block inline or split out.

    8. Shaquem Griffin – safety, LB – If you wanted to get a guy who you use as a safety in the box, who blitzes the QB, can drop in coverage, this guy could be a stud. He could play the Buc role for AZ, but I think he would be more valuable in a defensive set with 3 safeties (with him being one)

    9. Christian Sam – ILB . Just because he is a sun devil.

    10. Mike McCray- ILB , thought he played really well at the senior bowl.

    Or they could add another receiver like
    Deon Cain – deep threat who could be a solid #2
    Daesean Hamilton – great east west showing and solid senior bowl.
    Equanimeaus St Brown – At 6’5 and a 4.48 forty. As a 3rd day pick, might be worth it.
    Jaleel Scott – another big, fast guy who is improving. A 7th round pick could pay off.

  8. By clssylssy on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    Still have one last day to go but can’t help get excited to get busy with these new guys aboard. I am loving this coaching staff and have to wonder what kind of transformation they can work with some of our existing players who have been plagued with poor technique and were error prone. Hopefully, some of our existing receivers can be improved as well as our RB room and TEs.
    I’m excited to see what Mike McCoy is going to do with our offense now that we have a few more pieces but still have remaining holes. I like the Christian Kirk pick and have seen him compared to Julian Edelman but would have liked it if he had more size along the lines of Michael Floyd since we already have a good slot receiver. Excellent pick nonetheless, and sure to be a fan favorite with his hometown roots and impressive work to date.
    With all due respect to BA, he was what this team was needing at the time and did a great job of getting us out of a slump, and so am happy for him, landing the new gig with CBS, allowing him to stay involved with football and entertain. That being said, this new chapter in the evolution of the Arizona Cardinals, while starting off kind of a snooze fest, has really picked up momentum and is becoming quite enjoyable!

  9. By creditcard on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    The 1st two days of the draft revealed a plan for the Cards: Draft a QB that the team can grow around, have someone he can pass to, and have a versatile lineman to protect him.

    I like it. Smart. A plan,and a plan that is being implemented.

    Now for day three, and picks in rounds four,six and seven. Defense and players that can play special teams. Kids that have something to prove, small school stand-outs, and players that may have been injured last year.

    Keep to a formidable plan: special team players, BPA, and players that other teams would tend to over-look.

  10. By creditcard on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    Chase Edmonds …. most excellent pick. Cards are really sticking to a plan.
    Cards are developing a solid running attack — love it.

    I mentioned this before, when the Giants let Tom Caughlin go, the Cards should do anything to obtain him either as a coach, special assistant, player development etc… Caughlin has done wonders for Jacksonville.

    I have nothing to base this upon, but Wilks reminds me of a young Tom Caughlin. I really think Wilks has an eye for talent, and how to get the most out of it.

  11. By JTDG on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    I don’t get the 4th round pick.

    He is not a bad back, but he is the same guy as TJ Logan.

    With DJ getting 90% of the touches, not sure why pass on several good players to find a 3rd or 4th RB.

  12. By dan on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    Why waste a draft pick on a RB? I don’t care if the RB was Emmitt Smith reincarnated……..draft Interior linemen u idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Both sides of the ball. I can get a decent RB at Walmart.

  13. By dan on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    Case in point…….Todd Girley looked like my sister playing RB 2 years ago, gets an offensive line and boom………then all of a sudden hes Todd Gurley again? C’mon.

  14. By D on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    I would be bringing in B. Breeland CB, free agent for a physical asap. When healthy he is the best CB free agent right now and he is still young. AZ is in good shape Cap wise.

  15. By Jo Ball on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    Solid draft …. until the 4th round pick

    Don’t understand this pick with several good players still on the board that would fill needs. Chase was a luxury pick that we really didn’t need and have no real use for.

    Oh well, still a solid draft.

  16. By Dr. G. on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    Thank goodness for the recent ((2011?)) CBA section that defines the rookie contracts and the limitations for signing draftees. Not long ago, after the draft, we experienced the super ugly agent//player greed that kept the best players out of camp seemingly forever. There are dictated limits for rookie pools now. ((However secret?)) No one understands it…maybe Darren?

    And gone are the days ((hopefully)) of guys like Elway & Eli Manning demanding trades after the draft before they sign. Most guys just want to play & cash in.

    One of the things we don’t really have major concerns with are trying to get guys like our 1st pick from the FO to the coaches on the field. Many Fans forget to appreciate this CBA action. …very important.

  17. By faster on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    running back aside (who knows, maybe he is a wr in waiting), this draft is crazy.

    5 round, and the seahawks started it: with a p, then a k, then two p.
    most disrespectfull of all the other players, lol.

  18. By faster on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    chase ecmund, positive, he could play as receiver, negative, he was injured.
    i trust our medical department (asterix), so maybe we got another wr. i would have preferred jaylen samuels, he can play TE, WR and RB, but lets give edmund a chance to get really healthy and show what he can.

  19. By creditcard on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    Destiny. Campbell came from Phenix City Alabama. Plus, the last Campbell that played for the Cards … was pretty good.

  20. By Chris G. on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    I am truly hoping that the new coaching staff will do as promised with the new players and even some of the past draft “projects”. That is coaching them up to their strengths and being great teachers. It would definately be better than sitting them on the bench and calling them names. How nice would it be to see some of our draft picks come in and produce from day 1?

  21. By clssylssy on Apr 28, 2018 | Reply

    Like others I’m going …Huh? after the third pick. With so many needs on both sides of the ball, I can’t help but think that the last three picks could have been a little more impressive, although I’m not familiar with the Corner from Pitt and that was a position of need.
    Still, when you look at how heavy other teams were loading up on defense and considering Coach Wilks background, I really expected to pick up some impressive defensive playmakers, especially after letting Tyrann Mathieu go.
    The Eagles signed a Rugby players from Australia who was about 6’8″ and 350 lbs in the seventh round and from the looks of the tape, he could move like a TE and was a total wrecking machine…which is probably why they are the Superbowl Champs as they aren’t playing around! Glad we don’t have to play them with our guys who are beginning to look small in comparison to everyone else.
    This draft was an improvement from previous years, started great, and then sort of lost steam which I hope is not a foretelling. The good news is that FA is still not over so there is room for optimism, depending on how much money we have left.
    If nothing else, I am still ecstatic over getting Rosen, Kirk, and Cole who all graded out as “A’s”, followed by a “C” and two “Fairs” which, I think means we did above average!
    Good job…I think.

  22. By Cactus jeff on Apr 29, 2018 | Reply

    Your answer to adding a RB. Eagles and Patriots. They have a stable of rbs, WRs, and TEs. Cardinals only success was when they had a stable of WRs and rbs, always amazed how fans and gms miss the obvious, good job SK

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